Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Oct 2012, at 15:17, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Numbers and calculations are not subjective, Right. for they are mindless. Hmm... OK. Which means they can't experience anything. They're dead in the water. This is too ambiguous. I can say that you are right. Numbers

Re: Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-23 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Numbers and calculations are not subjective, for they are mindless. Which means they can't experience anything. They're dead in the water. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/23/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the

Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Oct 2012, at 21:51, Roger Clough wrote: On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is also where I run into trouble with the p-zombie definition of what a zombie is. It has no mind but it can still behave just as a real person would. But that assumes, as

Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-21 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is also where I run into trouble with the p-zombie definition of what a zombie is. It has no mind but it can still behave just as a real person would. But that assumes, as the materialists do,

Re: Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stathis Papaioannou You say that if a person behaves as if he has a mind, then he does have a mind. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/21/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou

Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Oct 2012, at 19:51, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/20/2012 10:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is also where I run into trouble with the p-zombie definition of what a zombie is. It has no mind but it can still behave just

Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is also where I run into trouble with the p-zombie definition of what a zombie is. It has no mind but it can still behave just as a real person would. But that assumes, as the materialists do, that the mind has no necessary

Re: The circular logic of Dennett and other materialists

2012-10-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/20/2012 10:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal This is also where I run into trouble with the p-zombie definition of what a zombie is. It has no mind but it can still behave just as a real person would. But that assumes, as the