Re: no thanks, doctor

2012-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2012, at 16:43, Richard Ruquist wrote: I have been concerned with the source of energy within comp.. Over on another list there is a fellow proposing that energy is conscious. This does not explain what is energy, and what is consciousness. Consciousness is the mental, phenomen

Re: no thanks, doctor

2012-12-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
> > > > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 11/25/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Bruno Marchal > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-11-25, 0

Re: no thanks, doctor

2012-11-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
ly so. Bruno [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/25/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-25, 09:51:05 Subject: Re: no thanks, doctor On

Re: Re: no thanks, doctor

2012-11-25 Thread Roger Clough
...@verizon.net] 11/25/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-25, 09:51:05 Subject: Re: no thanks, doctor On 24 Nov 2012, at 14:53, Roger Clough w

Re: no thanks, doctor

2012-11-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Nov 2012, at 14:53, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal OK, I kept thinking that in comp, the computer calculations had to do everything. The phrasing is ambiguous. The computer calculations, or equivalently the (sigma_1) arithmetical relation makes only virtual physics, and virtu

no thanks, doctor

2012-11-24 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal OK, I kept thinking that in comp, the computer calculations had to do everything. But you say that comp is not needed for consciousness to occur. But that is an assumption. One would need an additional assumption, that consciousness be the mediator in converting input physica