Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, Le 03-févr.-07, à 17:20, John Mikes a écrit : > Stathis, Bruno, > > This summary sounds fine if I accept to 'let words go'. Is there a > way to > 'understand' (=use with comprehension) the 'words' used here without > the > 'technical' acceptance of the theoretical platform? I am

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Mark, Le 03-févr.-07, à 17:12, Mark Peaty a écrit : > > John, I share your apparent perplexity. No matter which way up I look > at the things being discussed on this list, I always end up back in > the same place [and yes it is always 'here' :-] which is that clearly > prior to anything e

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Jason
On Feb 2, 10:03 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a bit ambiguous. The UD dovetails on all computations. Let us > write (comp i k j) for k-th step of computation i on input j. > One computation can then be identified (in a first approximation at > least) with a sequence like

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi jason, Le 05-févr.-07, à 17:05, Jason a écrit : > > On Feb 2, 10:03 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is a bit ambiguous. The UD dovetails on all computations. Let us >> write (comp i k j) for k-th step of computation i on input j. >> One computation can then be identif

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 05-févr.-07, à 00:46, Hal Ruhl a écrit : > As far as I can tell from this, my model may include Bruno's model as > a subset. This means that even if "my theory" makes disappear all (1-person) white rabbits, you will still have to justify that your overset does not reintroduce new one.

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
So now we have to find some way sto tackle the problem of finding the right level of abstraction to pursue ... Bruno Le 03-févr.-07, à 10:05, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : > Bruno Marchal writes: > > > What is correct, and has been singled out by Stathis, is that comp > > eludes the "materia

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-02-05 Thread Tom Caylor
On Jan 31, 10:33 am, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. But in that case your question is just half of the question, "Why do > people have values?" If you have values then that mean some things will be > good and some will be bad - a weed is just a flower in a place you don't want

RE: The Meaning of Life

2007-02-05 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Tom Caylor writes: > On Jan 31, 10:33 am, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > OK. But in > that case your question is just half of the question, "Why do people have > values?" If you have values then that mean some things will be good and some > will be bad - a weed is just a flower in

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Bruno: I do not think I fully understand what you are saying. Suppose your model bans white rabbits from its evolving universes - meaning I take it that all successive states are fully logical consequences of their prior state. I would see this as a selection of one possibility from two.

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-02-05 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Hal Ruhl writes: > Hi Bruno:> > I do not think I fully understand what you are saying.> > > Suppose your model bans white rabbits from its > evolving universes - meaning > I take it that all > successive states are fully logical consequences of > their prior state. You mean "physical conseque