Re: Little exercise

2008-11-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
Bruno, Our hero first solves physics and then programs a physical simulator to create a universe. You would argue that what he needed was to execute a universal dovetailer and physics would appear as a consequence (to the inhabitants of said universe(s)). Right? Cheers, Telmo Menezes. On Tue,

Re: Little exercise

2008-11-18 Thread A. Wolf
Even if you could discretize the universe to a countable submodel (and I'm not certain you can), each step of the computation would take forever (each step is ordered by omega the way the stones are laid out). An infinite amount of time bounded by discrete steps isn't enough time to complete

Re: QTI euthanasia (brouillon)

2008-11-18 Thread m.a.
*So you're saying that matter is as much a delusion as the luminiferous aether and could be a logical extension of Kant's subjective definitions of space and time? And the splitting of the MWI is just permutations of equations? Gosh.

Re: Little exercise

2008-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Telmo, On 18 Nov 2008, at 12:40, Telmo Menezes wrote: Our hero first solves physics and then programs a physical simulator to create a universe. You would argue that what he needed was to execute a universal dovetailer and physics would appear as a consequence (to the inhabitants of said

Re: Little exercise

2008-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Nov 2008, at 15:03, A. Wolf wrote: Even if you could discretize the universe to a countable submodel (and I'm not certain you can), each step of the computation would take forever (each step is ordered by omega the way the stones are laid out). An infinite amount of time

Re: Little exercise

2008-11-18 Thread A. Wolf
i am not sure I understand. Are you thinking that the hero is in its own simulation? No. The tape isn't a standard Turing tape because it's infinitely long. :) That's why someone can't perform the calculation stepwise in the way that it is described, even given infinite time. Anna

Re: QTI euthanasia (brouillon)

2008-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Nov 2008, at 15:30, m.a. wrote: So you're saying that matter is as much a delusion as the luminiferous aether Yes. If you mean matter by fundamental matter. It does not mean the Higgs boson is an illusion (in case the LHC shows it). It means that the idea that there are

Re: QTI euthanasia (brouillon)

2008-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi m.a. On 18 Nov 2008, at 20:18, m.a. wrote: Dear Bruno, Needless to say I feel honored that you've taken the time to answer my naive questions. Naive questions I love. But since you invite such questions, I do have a problem with the phrase highlighted

MGA 1

2008-11-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi, Those who dislikes introduction can skip up to THE FIRST THOUGHT EXPERIMENT AND THE FIRST QUESTION. - INTRODUCTION MGA is for Movie Graph Argument (like UDA is for Universal Dovetailer Argument). By UDA(1...7), the seven first step of the UDA, we have a proof or