Re: Altered states of consciousness

2009-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 23/03/2009, at 7:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > And why does plant constructs altered states of consciousness > molecules? In my opinion it has all to do with the incredibly complex > relationships that plant have with animals, in general, and insects in > particular. Many plants have to detra

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 23/03/2009, at 1:56 AM, John Mikes wrote: > Russell, > you are not alone as the target of this remark... > > Many people consider 'creativity' (like "change", "quality" etc.) a > POSITIVE concept. - WRONG. - > Just consider the recent creative financial genius Maddoff, with his > b$50 sc

Re: Altered states of consciousness

2009-03-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, On 23 Mar 2009, at 23:44, John Mikes wrote: > Bruno, > I enjoyed your pretty comprehensive post! > Thanks! > John > PS> one little question: have you ever been 'present' when in REM? I feel like I am present in most of the dreams, that is in the rather realist dream of the REM state

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-25 Thread Brent Meeker
Kim Jones wrote: > On 23/03/2009, at 1:56 AM, John Mikes wrote: > > >> Russell, >> you are not alone as the target of this remark... >> >> Many people consider 'creativity' (like "change", "quality" etc.) a >> POSITIVE concept. - WRONG. - >> Just consider the recent creative financial genius

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 26/03/2009, at 4:03 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: >> > Actually, Madoff was just skillful - not creative. Ponzi was > creative. > > Brent > Touché Kim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything