The Nanoself

2011-07-29 Thread Craig Weinberg
Apoptosis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KTDz-ZisZ0 Biological phenomena making sense, creating experiences. No neural network necessary. Molecules are 'recruited'. How? IMO, Molecular quorum sensing. Sensorimotive semantics. Molecules detect each other. They can figure out what's going on wit

Re: bruno list

2011-07-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Jul 2011, at 17:41, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Jul 28, 4:29 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: We do have abandoned vitalism in biology, and we don't have any reason to assume there is anything special in biology which would prevent other materials to have any similar role. We can assume that th

Re: bruno list

2011-07-29 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Jul 29, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: >That made it non Turing emulable. So you postulate the negation of comp. >You could at least be agnostic. >By postulating non-comp you refer to something unfathomable as a >primitive element in your theory, without showing how it put light on >the mind bo

Re: bruno list

2011-07-29 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > On Jul 28, 11:23 pm, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > If you used one > > > real neuron (probably need a group of real neurons in practice) you > > > might be able to skip all that. > > > > So how small can the group of "real" neurons be? Can it