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On 06 Nov 2011, at 21:18, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2011 1:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Quentin,
On 30 Oct 2011, at 23:51, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
benjayk:
On the other hand, I don't see why we would ignore immortality of
consciousness, considering that the "I" is just a psychosocial
construct
Quentin Anciaux-2 wrote:
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>> >>
>> >> Quentin Anciaux-2 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Immortality still means what it means, what you're talking about is
>> not
>> >> > immortality. If nothing is preserved (no memories) then nothing is
>> left
>> >> > and
>> >> > I don't care.
>> >> But is is not true
meekerdb wrote:
>
>> You picture consciousness as something inherently personal. But you can
>> be
>> conscious without there being any sense of personhood, or any experience
>> related to a particular person (like in meditation). So that assumption
>> doesn't seems to be true.
>>
>> Also you
On 11/7/2011 9:50 AM, benjayk wrote:
meekerdb wrote:
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> How great was that?
I don't know. Being a fetus might be a peaceful experience, or like sleep.
But the point is that it doesn't matter how great the experience was,
So what's your evidence that there is *any* experience of "being a
Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> But if you realize that there has never been a person to begin with,
>
> But this contradicts immediately my present consciousness feeling. I
> am currently in the state of wanting to drink water, so I am pretty
> sure that there exist right now at least one person
On 11/7/2011 12:02 PM, benjayk wrote:
I think we only fear the elimination of personhood because we confuse being
conscious as an ego with being conscious. We somehow think that if we in the
state of feeling to be a seperate individual cease to exist, we as conscious
beings cease to exist, which
To Qentin: "DEATH" an excellent vaiation for immoprtality. I always
emphasize that ETERNITY is NOT a "time" indicator, can most likely be
timeless ("POOF" it is over).
To Bruno:
we wrote already about your 2c question "WHO ARE WE?" and you answered
something like "Gods".
That may be a cheap shot,
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