To Qentin: "DEATH" an excellent vaiation for immoprtality. I always
emphasize that ETERNITY is NOT a "time" indicator, can most likely be
timeless ("POOF" it is over).
we wrote already about your 2c question "WHO ARE WE?" and you answered
something like "Gods".
That may be a cheap shot, but unidentifiable are both. (Philosophical
Goedelism: you cannot identify
yourself from within yourself). For sure we are not what WE think we are.
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2011, at 23:51, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>> On the other hand, I don't see why we would ignore immortality of
>> consciousness, considering that the "I" is just a psychosocial
>> construct/illusion anyway. We don't find an actual "I" anywhere. It seems
>> very relevant to know that the actual essence of experience can indeed
>> survive eternally. Why would I care whether an imagined "I" experiences it
>> or not?
>> How would you call this, if not immortality?
> Could you imagine making a dream where you are someone else?
> Can you imagine waking up, and remembering your life as a dream, and at
> the same time remembering "the" previous life?
> I think we can dissociate from memories. I think we can identifying our
> identity, if I can say, with something deeper than the memories.
> Memories are important, if only to avoid painful loops, and to progress,
> which is the making of histories. But like bodies, it makes sense that we
> own them, we are not them, I mean, not necessarily are we them.
> We might be more our possible values, than the past local necessities. We
> might be more what we do with the memories than the memories themselves,
> which are very contingent and local.
> Perhaps we should allow ourselves thought experiences with amnesia, and
> dissociation. We practice dissociation and re-association all night, but
> usually we forget all of this.
> Who are we?
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