Re: Re: Comp, Chance and Necessity, the large and the small

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg God's preference ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-19, 16:35:56 Subject: Re: Comp, Cha

Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish I did land on your website or look up your book. You do have some radical assumptions, one of them puzzling to me-- that time is an "external" variable. External to what ? mind ? the physical world ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 "Forever is a long time,

Re: Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Sorry, where are the steps of UD ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/20/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-19, 09:33:19 Subjec

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Nov 2012, at 19:46, meekerdb wrote: On 11/19/2012 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: and the math shows that this will include some continuous/analog observable. How does it show that? Intuitively: by dovetailing on each programs coupled with real numbers. Each computations are done

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Nov 2012, at 20:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2012/11/19 meekerdb On 11/19/2012 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: and the math shows that this will include some continuous/analog observable. How does it show that? Brent Because the material reality is the sum of the infinity of comp

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal > > On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a > society where everyone take something as true , no matter what, then it is > true for one of its members, you, for example. > > > That's corre

Re: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 14:51, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Sorry, where are the steps of UD ? You can find them here: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html You can download the PDF, and also the unique slide with a diagram for each step, as this

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 02:45:43PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > What I am asking is why does the idea of a multiverse help explain why > any > > one universe exists in the first place. > > > > This could be o

optic nerve signals

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Do comp signals have to be real time ? Here is an optic nerve signal, from http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&biw=1920&bih=922&tbm=isch&tbnid=VSpH9Ab1AaMUiM:&imgrefurl=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010482506001569&docid=Qs8e9gHWguDeDM&imgurl=http://a

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:35, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > And what is it? That I see both Washington and Moscow. No, you would not go that far (and that would contradict what you have already agree on). Bruno Marchal certainly sees Washington

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 03:52, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/19/2012 9:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Nov 2012, at 05:03, Stephen P. King wrote: On 11/18/2012 8:12 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:48:57PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Russell, I agree with this

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a society where everyone take something as true , no matter what, then it is true for one o

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/11/20 Bruno Marchal > > On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > > > 2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal > >> >> On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote: >> >> It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a >> society where everyone take something as tru

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > > 1) Why a universe, given a multiverse. A universe is the internal (ie > > 1p) view of the multiverse. > > > > Why does a multiverse need an i

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58:15 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:27:56 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1) Why a universe, given a multiverse. A universe

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:23:55PM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58:15 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:39:02AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > Why does a multiverse need an internal view? Especially since our >

Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:31:05AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > I did land on your website or look up your book. > You do have some radical assumptions, one of > them puzzling to me-- that time is an "external" variable. > External to what ? mind ? the physical world ? >

Re: Evolutionary logic Re: Some musings on is/ought and modal logic

2012-11-20 Thread meekerdb
On 11/20/2012 11:47 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: In the realm of experienced reality, there are no demonstrable absolute and eternal Truth forever and ever. No, but there are lots of local facts of experience. It is based on those we construct models of reality. Brent -- You received this