Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Jun 2015, at 01:26, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Bruno Marchal got the feeling that John Clark develops an allergy to pronouns. From Bruno Marchal's long time experience, the roots of the allergy is guessed to come from the

Re: A mathematical description of the level IV Multiverse

2015-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jun 2015, at 23:20, meekerdb wrote: On 6/19/2015 8:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jun 2015, at 01:41, meekerdb wrote: On 6/15/2015 8:15 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote: Therefore, perhaps proof of truth is an unattainable goal in math. Perhaps proof of truth is an unattainable goal

Re: Reconciling Random Neuron Firings and Fading Qualia

2015-06-21 Thread meekerdb
On 6/21/2015 8:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Z is what the machine can say about the []p t points of view (like the bet that you will have coffee in the modified step 3 protocol).[]coffee means you get coffee in all consistent extensions (which in this protocol are W and M), and t is the

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-06-21 Thread Terren Suydam
On Jun 21, 2015 12:35 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: I had a slightly different answer, but didn't post yesterday, because I wanted to see what answers other people had. My answer is to follow this protocol: if the door is closed, duplicate yourself. If the door is open,

Re: Reconciling Random Neuron Firings and Fading Qualia

2015-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jun 2015, at 18:36, Terren Suydam wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 15 Jun 2015, at 15:32, Terren Suydam wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: We can, as nobody could pretend to have

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-06-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote: How on earth could exchanging the position of two identical things make a difference either objectively or subjectively, how could you even know that such a exchange had even been made? In fact I can't think of a better

Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jun 2015, at 23:32, meekerdb wrote: On 6/19/2015 10:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:36, meekerdb wrote: On 6/18/2015 4:11 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: meekerdb wrote: On 6/18/2015 1:10 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:51 PM, meekerdb

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-06-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Jun 2015, at 05:27, Terren Suydam wrote: The key is that both JC1 and JC2 would feel like they are John Clark. They would both remember walking into the duplicator and then emerging from it, one way or the other, and despite having different thoughts and experiments from one

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-06-21 Thread Terren Suydam
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 12:21 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote: How on earth could exchanging the position of two identical things make a difference either objectively or subjectively, how could you even know that

Dreams of Computers

2015-06-21 Thread Jason Resch
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Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: If Bruno Marchal abandoned personal pronouns then Bruno Marchal would be FORCED to keep those 1-3 person view distinction straight all along the thought experience, That does not follow. So even then Bruno Marchal would not be

Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-21 Thread meekerdb
On 6/21/2015 8:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jun 2015, at 23:32, meekerdb wrote: On 6/19/2015 10:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:36, meekerdb wrote: On 6/18/2015 4:11 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: meekerdb wrote: On 6/18/2015 1:10 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 18,