Re: self (was Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-07-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jul 2016, at 18:08, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>​>>​ ​In Helsinki, we ask John Clark (JC) to make a prediction, not about where JC's two bodies will be reconstituted (everyone knows that the answer here is "in Washington and in

Re: self (was Re: Aristotle the Nitwit

2016-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 Bruno Marchal wrote: ​>> ​ >> I can stop here. > > ​> ​ > That is probably wise. ​But deep down John Clark knew Bruno Marchal wouldn't stop here, John Clark knew Bruno Marchal wouldn't be wise. ​ > > ​ > but apparently once you get that there is no

What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Mindey
Hi Everyone, so, over time, we had actually came to near-maturity creating the basis of The Infinity Project I mentioned before (an economic and innovation forum). A question that we realized having, is -- what is the list of the world's currently most important problems? I and a few friends

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Mindey wrote: > ​> ​ > what is the list of the world's currently most important problems? ​One problem towers over all others, death. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Mindey
On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 5:10:22 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Mindey > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> what is the list of the world's currently most important problems? > > > ​One problem towers over all others, death. > Well, I suppose death

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Mindey
It's funny. If you look at the surface of it, of course you will get into such contradictions. The real problem that life is solving, is the retention of information under the influence of entropy. Information preservation density and reliability? On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:43:23 PM UTC,

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Brent Meeker
Bacteria solved that problem. Death only came along with sex. Brent On 7/7/2016 1:48 PM, Mindey wrote: It's funny. If you look at the surface of it, of course you will get into such contradictions. The real problem that life is solving, is the retention of information under the influence

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Mindey wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> One problem towers over all others, death. >> > > ​>​ > Well, I suppose death results from imbalance between order and entropy. > One problem we have that is close, is Recovering Information of the Minds > of the Past

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Mindey
Cryonics can help those who are alive today. That is good, but not good enough, since I do miss some people who died when I was 2. Universe can think whatever it wants, but just because the laws of physics had worked until now, doesn't mean that they will work exactly the same in the future,

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Brent Meeker
Information about the past is available to us (at least according to our present understanding of the laws of physics). It's the future that we have only limited information about. Brent On 7/7/2016 3:36 PM, Mindey wrote: Cryonics can help those who are alive today. That is good, but not

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​ >> ​>> ​ >> One problem towers over all others, death. > > > ​> ​ > I thought that was the solution to over population. > ​A textbook example of the cure being, quite literally, worse than the disease ​ ​ John K

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 8/07/2016 6:48 am, Mindey wrote: It's funny. If you look at the surface of it, of course you will get into such contradictions. The real problem that life is solving, is the retention of information under the influence of entropy. There is no such problem to solve. Unitary quantum

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Well, for psychological reasons, I agree with John Clark's initial response.The goal, I am guessing is restoration, in principle, as Brent Meeker's comment, earlier. I am guessing that file restoration from the past, if done exact enough would render full resurrection or file restoration of us,

Re: What are among the world's most important problems to solve, why?

2016-07-07 Thread Brent Meeker
On 7/7/2016 10:10 AM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Mindey >wrote: ​> ​ what is the list of the world's currently most important problems? ​One problem towers over all others, death. I thought that was the solution