Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
Stephen, Sorry but your message is empty. All I know is that there is no virus. Well thanks! Bruno On 05 Aug 2010, at 22:16, Stephen P. King wrote: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3052 - Release Date: 08/05/10 02:35:00 http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
RE: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
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Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
Dear Stephen, I found your message in the Google archive here (thanks to Quentin). Your messages in my mail box are indeed empty, except for the message that there is no virus. I copy your message below: On 04 Aug 2010, at 00:06, Stephen P. King wrote: Dear Bruno, This point is very important in my own research! I would like to point out that the ascription of a 1-mind to a 3-brain is such that it is not unique (as we have the example of multiple personality disorder!), it is at least a many to one map just as ascribing 3-brains to a 1-mind. I claim that this is understandable in terms of a mathematical duality relation. The trick is in figuring out how these mappings between the duals leads to a mechanism that selects individual pairs. This is what V. Pratt discovered in his work on Chu Spaces. Current work is ongoing to see if this works in terms of Hilbert spaces. See: http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.1626v4 for the preliminary ideas. To associate a 1-mind to a 3-brain is the default option. But you are right, digging deeper we can say that even ONE mind is is or may be an integrated collection of different minds. I have collected all my dreams during more than 30 years, and I have observed that sometimes I can do two different dreams at once. Louis Jouvet has made the same observation and consider that this happens when the corpus callosum is shut down, for some reason. The two dreams involve arguably two minds, and after awakening we can remember the two dreams. Similar phenomena appear with the use of dissociative drugs like the toxic analgesic Ketamine or the (non toxic) Salvia divinorum, which cut momentarily connection between different part of the brain. I have many conjectures about how to interpret the entities people met when consuming salvia, including the perception, made possible by the remaining integrated limbic system, of different parts of the brains to each others. I am not sure I can related this to Pratt's work on the Chu duality, which I relate more to the usual Galois connection, but if you know better I wait for your explanations of this. Well I may perhaps see the relation, by abstracting a brain part from the others (OK then). I don't think this is relevant for the 1-mind 3-brain connection point I was recalling. I was talking about the usual integrated mind associate to an ideal fully connected 3-brain. You can associate one mind to a brain, like we do in everyday life when we talk to some person. The key and "new" point bring by digital mechanism, is that the usual identity thesis fails in the mind-brain direction. To a mind, from the mind's point of view, we have to associate (from a third person point of view) an infinity of brains (indeed all the virtual or arithmetical brains in sufficiently similar states generated by the Universal Dovetailer or by the proof of the relevant sigma_1 sentences in (Robinson) Arithmetic (by UDA). This is what makes physics a sum on an infinity of computations. Best, Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
I've found why... see http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/msg/a4cc79d81b2fd6f2?dmode=source Your mail is marked as multipart/alternative The alternative 'text/plain' contains the text, but the alternative 'text/html' doesn't... But gmail in this case only shows the 'text/html' (when it have choice between the two, as your message marked as multipart/alternative should allow) hence the empty message... perhaps it's a misconfiguration in outlook or a bug in the beta... Regards, Quentin 2010/8/4 Quentin Anciaux > Sorry but it's still empty... ;) > > I can read it on > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/browse_thread/thread/8fdc67076f24fb25 > > Very strange. > > Regards, > Quentin > > 2010/8/4 Stephen P. King > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3049 - Release Date: 08/03/10 >> 10:22:00 >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
Sorry but it's still empty... ;) I can read it on http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/browse_thread/thread/8fdc67076f24fb25 Very strange. Regards, Quentin 2010/8/4 Stephen P. King > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3049 - Release Date: 08/03/10 > 10:22:00 > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
RE: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
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Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
Hi Stephen... Since two weeks or so, I don't receive the text of your mails in my gmail box... the only thing I get is what is below "No virus found ". What is strange is if I go directly in google groups to the everything list page, there, the text of your message is available. Since it happens only with your emails, I suppose there is some kind of a problem on your end with the way your email software sends them. Regards, Quentin 2010/8/3 Stephen P. King > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3047 - Release Date: 08/03/10 > 02:35:00 > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
The message-text was missing. Please mail it FMI (for my information) John M On 8/3/10, Stephen P. King wrote: > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3047 - Release Date: 08/03/10 > 02:35:00 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
RE: 3-Brain <-> 1-Mind?
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