Re: Re: Can there be a private language ?

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King  

Yes, I had forgotten about many 1p. 

And your dismissal of the possibility of a private language
is exactly what Witgenstein concluded.

Great minds must think alike.



Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/5/2012  
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Time: 2012-11-05, 11:18:48 
Subject: Re: Can there be a private language ? 


On 11/5/2012 10:40 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> You could see it that way, but I only meant that 1p is subjective 
> (as I see or know it (here,now)) while 3p is objective (as they 
> see or know whatever, whenever). 

Hi Roger, 

 OK, but isn't the "objectivity" of 3p exactly what many 1p could  
agree upon and nothing more? 

> 
> Which raises Wittgenstein's question, "Can there be a 
> private language ?" 
 No, because a language is a conversion of the signification of some  
set of signs between many communicators. 

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Re: Can there be a private language ? typo!

2012-11-05 Thread Stephen P. King

On 11/5/2012 11:18 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 11/5/2012 10:40 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King

You could see it that way, but I only meant that 1p is subjective
(as I see or know it (here,now)) while 3p is objective (as they
see or know whatever, whenever).


Hi Roger,

OK, but isn't the "objectivity" of 3p exactly what many 1p could 
agree upon and nothing more?




Which raises Wittgenstein's question, "Can there be a
private language ?"


TYPO fixed

No, because a language is /a language is a _*convention*_ of the 
signification of some set of signs between many communicators. /


without mutual agreement and verification or witnessing, there is/are no 
facts or truths.

/
/

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Re: Can there be a private language ?

2012-11-05 Thread Stephen P. King

On 11/5/2012 10:40 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King

You could see it that way, but I only meant that 1p is subjective
(as I see or know it (here,now)) while 3p is objective (as they
see or know whatever, whenever).


Hi Roger,

OK, but isn't the "objectivity" of 3p exactly what many 1p could 
agree upon and nothing more?




Which raises Wittgenstein's question, "Can there be a
private language ?"
No, because a language is a conversion of the signification of some 
set of signs between many communicators.


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Onward!

Stephen


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