Re: Climate change

2012-12-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2012, at 14:43, Telmo Menezes wrote: Dear Bruno, FYI: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080602160845.htm 15 people is not a serious sample, and then, to make it illegal you have to compare with the long-term effect of other activities (alcohol, breathing air in ci

Re: Climate change

2012-12-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Dec 2012, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: On 12/3/2012 4:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You might be right, I am not sure. Then, the fear sellers did not need the climate change for imposing tyranny: food and drug works already very well. (Cf Obama and the NDAA). And they might be related,

Re: Climate change

2012-12-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
> > >>> Dear Bruno, >> >>FYI: >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/**releases/2008/06/080602160845.**htm >> > > 15 people is not a serious sample, and then, to make it illegal you have > to compare with the long-term effect of other act

Re: Climate change

2012-12-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Dec 2012, at 14:33, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/3/2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So our existence at the current level is "bad' and we are to revert back to some primitive non-tech version and be happy. OK. Proceed there without me. I am not interested in telling you how to l

Re: Climate change

2012-12-03 Thread meekerdb
On 12/3/2012 4:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You might be right, I am not sure. Then, the fear sellers did not need the climate change for imposing tyranny: food and drug works already very well. (Cf Obama and the NDAA). And they might be related, as Henry Ford said already in before 1930, "--why

Re: Climate change

2012-12-03 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/3/2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So our existence at the current level is "bad' and we are to revert back to some primitive non-tech version and be happy. OK. Proceed there without me. I am not interested in telling you how to live your life, just respect my basic human rights: Lif

Re: Climate change

2012-12-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Dec 2012, at 19:56, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/2/2012 1:31 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P.

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread meekerdb
On 12/2/2012 1:12 PM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Citeren meekerdb : On 12/2/2012 10:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/2/2012 1:31 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/201

Re: Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 07:51:28AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > Good information; it made me look up el nino and la nina and I > I see that as you observe, these are fundamentally phenomena > of the southern hemisphere, so can't explain the north pole > warming. > I'm

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread meekerdb
On 12/2/2012 1:09 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Politicians, on the other hand, should be thinking very hard about what to do about all this, but unfortunately are usually only interested in the next election. And it's not entirely the politicians fault; they've learned that their constituents ar

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread smitra
Citeren meekerdb : On 12/2/2012 10:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/2/2012 1:31 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 P

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:50:46PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote: > "Scientists Peg Sea Level Rise from Polar Ice Melt at 11.1 > Millimeters Since 1992". > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-measure-sea-rise-from-po > > What is the panic about? > > Because of the +v

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread meekerdb
On 12/2/2012 10:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/2/2012 1:31 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wr

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/2/2012 1:31 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wr

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread meekerdb
On 12/2/2012 12:56 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35A

Re: Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread Roger Clough
ime, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-01, 19:19:28 Subject: Re: Climate change On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > &g

Re: Climate change

2012-12-02 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/1/2012 11:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standi

Re: Climate change

2012-12-01 Thread meekerdb
On 12/1/2012 6:42 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Be that as it may, even a study over

Re: Climate change

2012-12-01 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/1/2012 9:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Be that as it may, even a study over the last millenium would be based on inadequa

Re: Climate change

2012-12-01 Thread meekerdb
On 12/1/2012 5:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Be that as it may, even a study over the last millenium would be based on inadequate data compared to the data from the V

Re: Climate change

2012-12-01 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/1/2012 7:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Be that as it may, even a study over the last millenium would be based on inadequate data compared to the data from the Vostok ice cores. The hockey stick data used by

Re: Climate change

2012-12-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > Be that as it may, even a study over the last millenium > would be based on inadequate data compared to the > data from the Vostok ice cores. The hockey stick data > used by Gore and others could possibly be