Re: It's about time!
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: PS just to give a flavour here is one of my posts :-) Alan Turing gets a royal pardon And about bloody time! (Virtually) win the second world war and (virtually) invent computers, be driven to suicide by the police and they've kept his pardon back all this time. FFS, you dare to wait this long to pardon him for something that hasn't been a crime for god knows how long - the man who rewrite the history of the 20th century for the better - you aren't worthy to kiss his boots, you bunch of I find the pardon thing offensive. There's nothing to pardon. What they should do is apologise. Turing is the one who would have something to pardon. Excuse me. [image: :oops:] (As you can see I even got ungrammatical, which in my case indicates strong passions...) On 25 December 2013 10:29, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Without checking your link, I hope that's Alan Turing being forgiven. (I've been ranting about this on various forums. I guess I overlooked this one...) On 25 December 2013 10:25, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: This comes over 60 years too latehttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/24/world/europe/alan-turing-enigma-code-breaker-and-computer-pioneer-wins-royal-pardon.html?hp. But at least it came. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
On 12/27/2013 5:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: PS just to give a flavour here is one of my posts :-) Alan Turing gets a royal pardon And about bloody time! (Virtually) win the second world war and (virtually) invent computers, be driven to suicide by the police and they've kept his pardon back all this time. FFS, you dare to wait this long to pardon him for something that hasn't been a crime for god knows how long - the man who rewrite the history of the 20th century for the better - you aren't worthy to kiss his boots, you bunch of I find the pardon thing offensive. There's nothing to pardon. What they should do is apologise. Turing is the one who would have something to pardon. I absolutely agree. But did you read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18561092 ? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
Turing is just a particularly vivid case - a poster boy - for the injustice suffered by I believe something like 50,000 people (I guess Oscar Wilde was an earlier one). As Brent pointed out, Turing may not have killed himself like Snow White biting a poisoned apple, as per the popular image, after all. It might have been a tragic accident. (And van Gogh may not have shot himself, either, although that seems less likely...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/27/2013 5:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: PS just to give a flavour here is one of my posts :-) Alan Turing gets a royal pardon And about bloody time! (Virtually) win the second world war and (virtually) invent computers, be driven to suicide by the police and they've kept his pardon back all this time. FFS, you dare to wait this long to pardon him for something that hasn't been a crime for god knows how long - the man who rewrite the history of the 20th century for the better - you aren't worthy to kiss his boots, you bunch of I find the pardon thing offensive. There's nothing to pardon. What they should do is apologise. Turing is the one who would have something to pardon. I absolutely agree. But did you read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18561092 ? Thanks Brent. Yes I saw it recently. I hope that the theory that it wasn't suicide is correct, but I'm still left with a nagging feeling that he just staged it very well. I didn't know he was also an experimentalist, to the point of having his own home chemistry lab. That made me like him even more... Childish as it may be, I still have this romantic idea of science that involves playing around with test tubes and weird contraptions. In any case, the chemical castration thing is monstrous. It is also fantastically ungrateful, given how crucial Turing's work was for the war effort. Cheers, Telmo. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:47 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Turing is just a particularly vivid case - a poster boy - for the injustice suffered by I believe something like 50,000 people (I guess Oscar Wilde was an earlier one). Yes. Sometimes our species is really nothing to write home about. As Brent pointed out, Turing may not have killed himself like Snow White biting a poisoned apple, as per the popular image, after all. It might have been a tragic accident. (And van Gogh may not have shot himself, either, although that seems less likely...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
Without checking your link, I hope that's Alan Turing being forgiven. (I've been ranting about this on various forums. I guess I overlooked this one...) On 25 December 2013 10:25, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: This comes over 60 years too latehttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/24/world/europe/alan-turing-enigma-code-breaker-and-computer-pioneer-wins-royal-pardon.html?hp. But at least it came. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: It's about time!
PS just to give a flavour here is one of my posts :-) Alan Turing gets a royal pardon And about bloody time! (Virtually) win the second world war and (virtually) invent computers, be driven to suicide by the police and they've kept his pardon back all this time. FFS, you dare to wait this long to pardon him for something that hasn't been a crime for god knows how long - the man who rewrite the history of the 20th century for the better - you aren't worthy to kiss his boots, you bunch of Excuse me. [image: :oops:] (As you can see I even got ungrammatical, which in my case indicates strong passions...) On 25 December 2013 10:29, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Without checking your link, I hope that's Alan Turing being forgiven. (I've been ranting about this on various forums. I guess I overlooked this one...) On 25 December 2013 10:25, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: This comes over 60 years too latehttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/24/world/europe/alan-turing-enigma-code-breaker-and-computer-pioneer-wins-royal-pardon.html?hp. But at least it came. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
