On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 08:18:16AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> But the robot plants could not grow more robot structure
> for free nor produce seeds. Or produce beautiful sweet-smelling
> flowers. If they could produce more robot structure,
> we ought to use them to produ
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Roger Clough
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Time: 2012-10-19, 19:26:04
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why self-organization programs cannot be alive
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:39:58AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Bernard cells are mechanical, not caused by a self as age
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:39:58AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Bernard cells are mechanical, not caused by a self as agent but by
> laws of physics. They may be self-organizing, but there's no self
> to organize things.
>
> Photosynthesis is a life process, not mechanica
Subject: Re: Re: Why self-organization programs cannot be alive
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 01:56:14PM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> I apologize for using two different concepts of
> creation of structure from randomness.
Its good to clarify these thoughts.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 01:56:14PM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> I apologize for using two different concepts of
> creation of structure from randomness.
Its good to clarify these thoughts. Great!
>
> There are two types of creation of structure:
> by life, where there
Hi Russell Standish
I apologize for using two different concepts of
creation of structure from randomness.
There are two types of creation of structure:
by life, where there is an agent or self to create things,
and by a computer program, where creation is mechanical.
Self-organization is pu
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