Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

2013-12-25 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 04:15:13PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
 All,
 
 Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. 
 The entire 'Part III: Elementals' of the book covers reality at its finest 
 scale, the quantum world. I'll summarize here but can only gloss over some 
 of the main points.
 
 As stated before reality, at its most fundamental level, consists of pure 
 computationally evolving information only. It is not physical. Thus there 
 is no dimensional spacetime. Dimensional spacetime is in fact something 
 that arises from quantum events, e.g. the conservation of particle 
 properties as they are computed in particle interactions that specify the 
 dimensional relationships between particles emerging from particle 
 interactions, such as relative energies and momenta.
 
 It is these purely numeric NON-physical computed dimensional relationships 
 that are part of the fundamental computational reality. Thus instead of a 
 single pre-existing all pervading spacetime that exists as a background to 
 all events, what really happens is that many independent mini-spacetimes 
 arise from networks of particle interactions. 
 
 It is only when these networks connect via common events that their 
 spacetimes merge into larger mini-spacetimes, and the spacetime that we 
 think we inhabit is actually the end result of the merging of innumerable 
 mini-spacetimes as the result of all the billions of particle level events 
 we continually interact with, e.g. all the photons impinging on our retinas.
 
 These continual particle level interactions build up the simulacrum of a 
 classical spacetime and our minds then interpolate that and mentally 
 construct a fixed, pre-existing common spacetime that does not actually 
 exist in external reality itself even though our minds convince us that it 
 does.
 
 Now there is plenty of evidence this view is correct, part of which is that 
 it solves two of the most profound problems of physics.
 
 
 
 The beauty of this insight is that it enables two very important advances.
 
 1. First it enables the conceptual unification of general relativity and 
 quantum theory because the reason they seem incompatible is precisely the 
 pre-existing all pervading spacetime that quantum theory mistakenly 
 assumes. When it is understood that spacetime emerges from quantum events 
 rather than being a pre-existing background to them this incompatibility 
 vanishes and in fact it is easy to get the curved spacetime of general 
 relativity directly from this emergence by simply taking the mass-energy 
 particle property as the scale of the spacetime that emerges.
 
 2. In one fell swoop it eliminates ALL quantum paradox. Why? Because 
 quantum processes only seem paradoxical again with respect to the 
 pre-existing fixed common spacetime mistakenly assumed. When the way 
 spacetime emerges FROM quantum processes is understood all the paradoxical 
 nature of quantum theory vanishes.
 
 
 Now, I know this probably seems counter intuitive and is a lot to get one's 
 mind around in one post which is not as clearly stated as I'd like but I'd 
 be happy to explain further or you can read my book available on Amazon 
 under my name. When it is properly understood it becomes quite clear and 
 very obvious and it is so simple and straightforward one wonders why no one 
 discovered it before
 
 Edgar
 
 

Hi Edgar,

In principle, this strikes me as being right. Spacetime must be
emergent from quantum interactions via the process of observation, but
getting the mathematical details right is tricky. I know of the PaW
model, for example, which attempts to do this (eg see arXiv:1310.4691),
but haven't really grokked the details. Is you model related, and do
you have a shorter paper where you give the mathematical details? 

Cheers

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Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

2013-12-25 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Hi Russell,

Glad you agree with my approach here. No, I haven't worked out the 
mathematical details and that certainly should be on science's 'to do' 
list. However there is considerable more detail on how this works and how 
General Relativity emerges automatically from quantum events in my book 
'Reality' on Amazon.

I can discuss more details here if they come up...

Best,
Edgar



On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:13 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

 All,

 Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. 
 The entire 'Part III: Elementals' of the book covers reality at its finest 
 scale, the quantum world. I'll summarize here but can only gloss over some 
 of the main points.

 As stated before reality, at its most fundamental level, consists of pure 
 computationally evolving information only. It is not physical. Thus there 
 is no dimensional spacetime. Dimensional spacetime is in fact something 
 that arises from quantum events, e.g. the conservation of particle 
 properties as they are computed in particle interactions that specify the 
 dimensional relationships between particles emerging from particle 
 interactions, such as relative energies and momenta.

 It is these purely numeric NON-physical computed dimensional relationships 
 that are part of the fundamental computational reality. Thus instead of a 
 single pre-existing all pervading spacetime that exists as a background to 
 all events, what really happens is that many independent mini-spacetimes 
 arise from networks of particle interactions. 

 It is only when these networks connect via common events that their 
 spacetimes merge into larger mini-spacetimes, and the spacetime that we 
 think we inhabit is actually the end result of the merging of innumerable 
 mini-spacetimes as the result of all the billions of particle level events 
 we continually interact with, e.g. all the photons impinging on our retinas.

 These continual particle level interactions build up the simulacrum of a 
 classical spacetime and our minds then interpolate that and mentally 
 construct a fixed, pre-existing common spacetime that does not actually 
 exist in external reality itself even though our minds convince us that it 
 does.

 Now there is plenty of evidence this view is correct, part of which is 
 that it solves two of the most profound problems of physics.



 The beauty of this insight is that it enables two very important advances.

 1. First it enables the conceptual unification of general relativity and 
 quantum theory because the reason they seem incompatible is precisely the 
 pre-existing all pervading spacetime that quantum theory mistakenly 
 assumes. When it is understood that spacetime emerges from quantum events 
 rather than being a pre-existing background to them this incompatibility 
 vanishes and in fact it is easy to get the curved spacetime of general 
 relativity directly from this emergence by simply taking the mass-energy 
 particle property as the scale of the spacetime that emerges.

 2. In one fell swoop it eliminates ALL quantum paradox. Why? Because 
 quantum processes only seem paradoxical again with respect to the 
 pre-existing fixed common spacetime mistakenly assumed. When the way 
 spacetime emerges FROM quantum processes is understood all the paradoxical 
 nature of quantum theory vanishes.


 Now, I know this probably seems counter intuitive and is a lot to get 
 one's mind around in one post which is not as clearly stated as I'd like 
 but I'd be happy to explain further or you can read my book available on 
 Amazon under my name. When it is properly understood it becomes quite clear 
 and very obvious and it is so simple and straightforward one wonders why no 
 one discovered it before

 Edgar







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Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

2013-12-23 Thread spudboy100


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Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

2013-12-23 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Thanks for purchasing it. Note that in the Kindle edition the Title page 
and table of contents formatting is a little screwed up but the text seems 
OK.

Edgar


On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:13 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

 All,

 Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. 
 The entire 'Part III: Elementals' of the book covers reality at its finest 
 scale, the quantum world. I'll summarize here but can only gloss over some 
 of the main points.

 As stated before reality, at its most fundamental level, consists of pure 
 computationally evolving information only. It is not physical. Thus there 
 is no dimensional spacetime. Dimensional spacetime is in fact something 
 that arises from quantum events, e.g. the conservation of particle 
 properties as they are computed in particle interactions that specify the 
 dimensional relationships between particles emerging from particle 
 interactions, such as relative energies and momenta.

 It is these purely numeric NON-physical computed dimensional relationships 
 that are part of the fundamental computational reality. Thus instead of a 
 single pre-existing all pervading spacetime that exists as a background to 
 all events, what really happens is that many independent mini-spacetimes 
 arise from networks of particle interactions. 

 It is only when these networks connect via common events that their 
 spacetimes merge into larger mini-spacetimes, and the spacetime that we 
 think we inhabit is actually the end result of the merging of innumerable 
 mini-spacetimes as the result of all the billions of particle level events 
 we continually interact with, e.g. all the photons impinging on our retinas.

 These continual particle level interactions build up the simulacrum of a 
 classical spacetime and our minds then interpolate that and mentally 
 construct a fixed, pre-existing common spacetime that does not actually 
 exist in external reality itself even though our minds convince us that it 
 does.

 Now there is plenty of evidence this view is correct, part of which is 
 that it solves two of the most profound problems of physics.



 The beauty of this insight is that it enables two very important advances.

 1. First it enables the conceptual unification of general relativity and 
 quantum theory because the reason they seem incompatible is precisely the 
 pre-existing all pervading spacetime that quantum theory mistakenly 
 assumes. When it is understood that spacetime emerges from quantum events 
 rather than being a pre-existing background to them this incompatibility 
 vanishes and in fact it is easy to get the curved spacetime of general 
 relativity directly from this emergence by simply taking the mass-energy 
 particle property as the scale of the spacetime that emerges.

 2. In one fell swoop it eliminates ALL quantum paradox. Why? Because 
 quantum processes only seem paradoxical again with respect to the 
 pre-existing fixed common spacetime mistakenly assumed. When the way 
 spacetime emerges FROM quantum processes is understood all the paradoxical 
 nature of quantum theory vanishes.


 Now, I know this probably seems counter intuitive and is a lot to get 
 one's mind around in one post which is not as clearly stated as I'd like 
 but I'd be happy to explain further or you can read my book available on 
 Amazon under my name. When it is properly understood it becomes quite clear 
 and very obvious and it is so simple and straightforward one wonders why no 
 one discovered it before

 Edgar







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