Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector and Evolution Architecture

2002-11-26 Thread lance lim
Hi , is there any where I can get more information about this, without actually reading the code itself? Thanks, lance --- Not Zed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to change stuff that doesn't involve changing the corba idl files, or just about any of the camel object definitions.

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector and Evolution Architecture

2002-11-24 Thread Not Zed
You should be able to change stuff that doesn't involve changing the corba idl files, or just about any of the camel object definitions. On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 16:09, lance lim wrote: Hi All, I am a newbie at both Ximian Connector and Evolution and was wondering how these two components

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-06 Thread Ty Norton
If you order now, a CD with 1.0 will ship to you on the 14th. I'll buy 2 once Slackware makes it to the supported distributions ;) Regards, -- Ty Norton | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Rob Brown-Bayliss
How Ximian is percieved is very important to the open source community. If they fail then noone will put up capital to help open source companies get going and if they alienate the community by doing things in ways the seem deceptive they will fail and we will all lose. Good point, My first

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen Witkop
Just to clarify my feelings on this matter, I am a big supporter of Ximian and of making money. That's why I am so concerned about Ximian's image. They are the poster child for open source companies looking to make a living by both creating software and at the same time supporting the open source

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Nat Friedman
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote: The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out along with all the other plans for evolution. It just makes it seem as though Ximian was afraid they

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Nat Friedman
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 20:25, Brian wrote: *isn't* it. If people find their making proprietary software distasteful then they should ante up and buy either their standard or professional edition of Ximian Gnome (I plan on doing it once 1.0 is on the CD that I'm buying). If you order now, a

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen Witkop
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 22:08, Nat Friedman wrote: On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote: The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out along with all the other plans for evolution. It

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Ujwal S. Sathyam
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 19:08, Nat Friedman wrote: On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote: The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out along with all the other plans for evolution. It

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Mike Strock
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 19:08, Nat Friedman wrote: On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote: The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out along with all the other plans for evolution. It

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-05 Thread Mike Strock
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 18:14, Dan Winship wrote: I see that you are talking about only Exchange 2000. Any chance that there will be back-porting to the Exchange 5.5 platform, for those of us in a situation where we can't get upgraded to 2000 in a short timeframe? As mentioned in the

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Jeppe, Nils
can start to get all bitchy. ;-) No offense meant by any of what I say. Best wishes, - Nils -Original Message- From: Chris Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 01:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector? On Mon, Dec 03, 2001

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

2001-12-04 Thread Jeppe, Nils
Hello Ximian, I'll second that, if this is a possibility please get in touch with me and I'll bug my superiours until they cave. Best wishes, Nils -Original Message- From: David Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Montag, 3. Dezember 2001 22:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Erik Bågfors
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:19, Chris Ball wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: This sounds really interesting. .. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given that nothing else really does this yet. It seems that even Evolution doesn't,

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Nat Friedman
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote: Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of Proprietary Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-) Just to clarify: We're not making a proprietary Evolution. We're making a proprietary connector which is separate

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Jeppe, Nils
I did not assume otherwise. - Nils -Original Message- From: Nat Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 15:00 To: Jeppe, Nils Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector? On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote: Now if Ximian

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

2001-12-04 Thread Aaron Kemp
Me too I would glady fork over the dough to be a beta tester too, if the option exists. Thanks, Aaron On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:06, Jeppe, Nils wrote: Hello Ximian, I'll second that, if this is a possibility please get in touch with me and I'll bug my superiours until they cave.

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Nat Friedman
15:00 To: Jeppe, Nils Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector? On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote: Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of Proprietary Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-) Just to clarify

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Mike Sangrey
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:02, Ibukun Okitika wrote: The thing is, in a perfect world, Richard Stallman would be in good terms with every Tom, Dick and Harry in the corporate world. Of course that's a ridiculous thought. I was reading the article on The Register about this, and I thought it

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Rob Brown-Bayliss
Just to clarify: We're not making a proprietary Evolution. We're making a proprietary connector which is separate from Evolution and which uses CORBA to talk to Evolution. Evolution itself is free. Sounds good, hope the dollars roll in as deserved. -- Rob Brown-Bayliss

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Stephen Witkop
: [Evolution] Ximian Connector? On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: This sounds really interesting. .. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given that nothing else really does this yet. It seems that even Evolution doesn't, from the examples

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Brian
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote: The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out along with all the other plans for evolution. It just makes it seem as though Ximian was afraid they

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

2001-12-04 Thread Dan Winship
Hi. We have enough beta testers for now. I'm not sure what the schedule of beta testing / early sales / whatever will be as we get closer to the release date. If you're interested in betaing [if we do end up having more betas later], or just want to talk about buying, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Dan Winship
example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right? How will Evo(GPL) handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears? (As mentioned by Nat, Evo == GPL, the Connector is a plug-in.) Is it really planned to have a version of iCal that wanders around client-client as well as a version that

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Dan Winship
On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 18:40, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: I just read about the Ximian Connector for interacting with MS Exchange. The announcement says the the release date is early next year? Can someone narrow that down to any calendar month/week? Nope, but here's a screenshot:

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Chris Ball
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:00:45AM -0500, Dan Winship wrote: Anyway, as far as Evolution is concerned, the Exchange server is just another backend that it can read and write iCalendar objects to/from. The Connector deals with the details of talking to the server and doing what translation is

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Andre Truter
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:07, Dan Winship wrote: On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 18:40, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: I just read about the Ximian Connector for interacting with MS Exchange. The announcement says the the release date is early next year? Can someone narrow that down to any calendar

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Ball
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: This sounds really interesting. .. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given that nothing else really does this yet. It seems that even Evolution doesn't, from the examples of discussion on here that I've

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Brian
On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 19:19, Chris Ball wrote: How will Evo(GPL) handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears? Is it really planned to have a version of iCal that wanders around client-client as well as a version that talks to servers? I wonder that myself. I hope that Ximian will develop

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Jason Tackaberry
the answer to Outlook in a Yeah, use Evolution. It's cool. Oh, but you have to pay for Exchange interoperability. way, and that no-one mentioned this before. Feels almost like we have to start again, to find another way of arguing Linux is free. You can do _this_ with it. to our bosses.

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Brady Hegberg
I think it's a perfect idea to give away this great email client but charge the exchange lusers...er users. I'm sure there will be lots of choices for backends, some of them free, some of them extremely pricey (coughOracle 9i/cough). In the end I'm sure charging for exchange connectivity will

Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Ibukun Okitika
It all sounds a bit, um, icky. And I'm guessing that the development of the connector isn't going to be at all publically discussed. And I'm a little frustrated that the mail client that I thought was this huge effort on the part of the community to write the app that's going to be a