Re: [Evolution] Hotkey for Preview (was: evolution 1.2 beta)

2002-09-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 11:11, Kenneth Porter wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 06:30, Norman P. B. Joseph wrote:
  [is this the right forum for beta comments?]
  
  Anyway, what was the rationale for removing the 'q' hotkey for toggling
  the preview pane in the recent 1.2 beta release?  Or was that just an
  oversight?  Not having to reach for the mouse and hunt through a menu
  for an often-used option (I toggle the preview pane constantly through
  numerous folders) is a *big* win.  Please put it back in!
 
 Agreed! This disappeared in the 1.1 snapshots and I really miss it, as I
 tend to turn off preview while sorting messages around that didn't get
 caught by my filters, then I turn it back on to read what's left. I also
 use it to inspect for false positives in my spam folder, which normally
 has preview off.

The key has only been moved; it is now a backtick (or tilde). This has
issues with international keyboards, apparently, but that's a separate
topic.

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Re: [Evolution] Idea: Pens for highlighting emails

2002-09-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 10:33, Evert Hoff wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Here's an idea that you might want to consider implementing in
 Evolution. I will find it very useful and others might too. I don't know
 of any email client that has this feature yet.
 
 The feature: Provide a highligher pen (or pens) on the toolbar. Clicking
 on it will turn the cursor into a highlighter. Selecting a piece of text
 in an email would then highlight the background behind the text in
 light-blue, light-red or light-yellow. This would be saved without
 changing the actual text of the email that was received. It should be
 possible to change the view to toggle between displaying and hiding
 these highlights.

In general, requests like this should go into bugzilla, but I filed this
very request a while ago so there's no need for you to do it. (It was
closed, as I recall.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution mail folders

2002-08-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 17:18, Andy Cedilnik wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I was trying this tool called mboxcheck, which displays some statistics
 on the unix mbox files. What is interesting is that evolution does not
 mark emails that were read as being read. So, most of my mailboxes seems
 like I haven't read any mail yet.
 
 Is that intentionally or is there a way to fix that?

We use a different header to record the read status of a message,
because the standard header makes it so that the entire mbox must be
rewritten if a message is marked as seen, which is pretty silly.

I know that there's compatability code to enable standard-style status
headers in version 1.1, but I'm not sure how to enable it.

Also, this question would have been better directed at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; this list is for discussing development of
Evolution.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Namespace Again ...

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 12:17, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
 I was just wondering what the current plan to get name spaces fixed in
 evolution is.  The current implementation where it shows the namespace
 as a sub directory in the folders list is not correct.  The namespace
 should be your top level if you set it to something.  This is how it was
 in evolution from 0.X until a few weeks ago in 1.1.  I do not understand
 why this has changed.  I know someone said that there was some hack code
 taken out, but it has yet to be replaced with good code.  What is the
 current plan to do this?
 

It's not going to change any time soon. We have to show the namespace
for a variety of reasons -- there were serious problems on Courier
servers (people not being able to read their INBOX after certain
operations), eventual support for full IMAP namespaces
(private/public/shared), fixing folder naming ambiguity.

The bit that needs to be fixed is migration of filters, vfolders, and
some preferences, but the current way IMAP folders appear in the folder
tree is going to stay. It is a bit disconcerting at first but it is the
way it needs to be done.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Downloading mail from multiple accounts

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:09, Greg Macek wrote:
 As Evolution is now (1.0.8 for me), when I choose to download my mail,
 it attempts to grab all mail from every enabled account at once (4
 accounts). While for the most part this isn't a huge deal because I'm
 usually on some high-speed Internet connection, my concern is that while
 I'm on dial-up, this method of simultaneously fetching mail could bog
 down a 56K dialup session, esp. if there is a lot of mail. Are there any
 plans or foreseen need to serialize the mail download process? It would
 seem that Evolution would have less to do at once, but maybe that
 doesn't matter. :-) 

I don't think we'd serialize the mail fetching, as most of the time it
wouldn't even really help. If you're having bandwidth problems, I
suppose you could try temporarily disabling some of your accounts.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Namespace Again ...

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:32, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
 Needs to be done for what reason exactly?  Bad coding?  Getting around
 some other bug?  I don't understand how this NEEDS to be done in
 evolution and does NOT need to be done in any other mail client out
 there.  Obviously the Courier IMAP issue you mentioned must have been
 solved by other mailers that do namespaces correctly, why can't
 evolution also solve it?

Ok, admittedly we could work around this in some way if we wanted to,
probably by special-casing namespaces beginning with INBOX, but that's
just a waste of time. Namespaces will need to be prefixed in once IMAP
gets support for public and shared folders so not doing the namespacing
will just result in us having to break people's IMAP uri's and folder
trees later as opposed to sooner.

Really, this is like the 'n and p' versus ', and .' thing, it isn't that
big of a deal, use it a bit and you'll get used to it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Setting size of mail composition window

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 11:59, Lance A. Brown wrote:
 Is there some way to set the size of the new mail composition window? 
 I'm using 1.0.8.99, updating from red-carpet whenever a new snap comes
 out, and would like to have the new mail windows sized so they are wide
 enough to accomodate a full line of text.
 
 Thanks,
   --[Lance]

At the moment, this is probably best accomplished by configuring your
window manager. But this has been brought up before, so maybe we'll add
some code to remember window sizes.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Check for duplicate messages

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 14:14, Mertens Bram wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 20:06, Antonio Bemfica wrote:
  This is trivial to do using procmail (by checking the Message-ID
  header). You can get a bit more sophisticated and do an MD5 hash of the
  body of incoming messages and store it on a database (dbtool, for
  example: http://www.daemon.de/dbtool/).
  
  If you or anyone else is interested I can post a recipe that does the
  above.
 
 Well I certainly am interested!
 
 I don't know anything about procmail though, would I have to configure
 much to get this working?  I am running Evo 1.0.8 btw...
 

You don't want to detect duplicates based on message-id; it's trivial
for an attacker to prevent you from seeing a given message, and the same
problem could happen even without malicious intent.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Andrew,

On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 11:29, Andrew Braithwaite wrote:
 Hi. 
 
 If this is not the correct forum for Evolution feature requests then
 please excuse my ignorance, I am new to the list ! 
 
 In Mozilla/Netscape mail setup there is an option to copy all sent
 Emails either to a fixed address (usually yourself) or to copy them
 all to the 'Sent' folder. I used this all the time as it gave me a
 complete thread history on Email correspondance and kept track on what
 I had sent and to whom. 
 
 How do I go about getting this feature added to Evolution ? 

Evolution 1.0.x has a Sent folder that all messages are appended to.
Evolution 1.1.x has this feature, and also lets you define a default CC:
or BCC: header for your emails. So you're all set.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Forward multiple e-mails.

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 13:59, Roberto Moral wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Is there any way of sending/forwarding multiple e-mails within 1
 single e-mail, 
 
 i.e: I want to send all the e-mail concerning the topic [Evolution]
 Mail list display to a hotmail account, I select all those e-mails
 and click forward and forward puts them all in the same e-mail
 instead of opening 1 send window per message.

The CVS (1.1.x) version of Evolution can do this.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering for one folder?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 03:34, Oliver Sturm wrote:
 As I said, I do server-side filtering. Nothing wrong with that, I would
 think... Actually, there's a language for it called Sieve (RFC 3028 or
 http://www.cyrusoft.com/sieve/index.html), which may be a fine thing to
 support. I think the assumption that mail only ever arrives in one
 specific folder is wrong.
 

The problem with Sieve is probably 95% of IMAP servers don't implement
it, so it's basically useless (none of UW, Courier, or Exchange have
it.)

We know that you can't assume that all mail arrives in INBOX, but it's
the only way to implement the filtering that won't be a huge resource
drain.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Mandrake 8.2 with Matrox G450 bug?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 12:32, Onsi Fakhouri wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I'm running Mandrake 8.2 on an athlon 800 with 256 Mb of RAM.  My video
 card is a dual head Matrox G450 and I'm using Xinerama.  The error I'm
 experiencing is erratic.  When I start up evolution 1.0.3 the main
 window pops up but the summary doesn't get displayed.  The toolbar and
 sidebar appear but, where the summary should be, I get corrupted a
 postage-stamp sized viewing area embedded in the main window.  Clicking
 on anything at this stage causes evolution to hang - the only way out is
 to kill it, and the only way to restart it is to kill all it's running
 components individually.  What's frustrating is that, though this
 happens most of the time, it doesn't always happen - sometimes evolution
 comes up fine.

Evolution has problems with Xinerama. I don't think anyone really
understands how to fix them. We know about it but we're probably not
going to get any work done on it for 1.2. I think these things work
somewhat better overall in GNOME 2 so the GNOME 2 port will hopefully be
better in this regard. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Mandrake 8.2 with Matrox G450 bug?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 13:26, Brett Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 10:58, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
  Don't use xinerama.
 
 To expand on Jeff's ever so helpful response...
...

Does Nautilus work with Xinerama? I've always assumed the problem was
some disgusting undebuggable bonobo-type problem Nautilus is the
only other program I can think of that Bonobos as aggressively as we do.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Complete exchange integration with remote locations

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 15:56, Rory D. Hudson wrote:
 First, I would like to be able to maintain a calendar here at the
 office, it could be a public folder on the Exchange server.  Then I
 would like to be able to send this calendar down to our stores via
 uucp...this then could replace the
 /home/username/evolution/local/Calendar/calendar.ics file located at
 the store.  Thus the store has the most up to date version of the
 calendar.  I would like to do something similar to this with the
 addressbook as well. 

Maybe I'm not understanding something, but what's preventing you from
doing this right now? Just uucp the calendar.ics file at 4:00 AM or
something when you know Evolution won't be running?

Or do you mean that you want the calendar to be updated over UUCP as
soon as anything changes? That would be hard to pull off.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] IMAP login problems

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 16:22, Richard Zach wrote:
 Hey,
 
 My school has changed the IMAP config, and now I can't login to get my 
 mail. The log's below. Looks like Evo is inserting a CRLF in the LIST 
 command where it shouldn't.
 
 -RZ
 
 received: * OK IMAP4 Ready iproxy1.acs.ucalgary.ca
 sending : A0 CAPABILITY
 received: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 LITERAL+
 received: A0 OK CAPABILITY
 sending : A1 LOGIN xxx xxx
 received: A1 OK You are so in
 sending : A2 LIST {0+}
  
 received: A2 BAD Missing required argument to LIST
 
 camel-imap-provider-WARNING **: Unexpected response from IMAP server: 
 A2 BAD Missing required argument to LIST
 sending : A3 LOGOUT
 received:  BAD Missing command

Your server is claiming to support LITERAL+ but it lies. Not much we can
do about that.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Opening of attached jpeg files

2002-08-19 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 08:01, Rick Loga wrote:
 The jpegs attached to my email are sometime already open and sometimes I have
 to click on the icon to open them.  How can I tell evolution to always open
 jpeg attachments?

The sender can specify whether the default should be to show the
attachment for not (note the checkbutton at the bottom of the file
picker when you add an attachment in Evo).

Anyway, there's no way to open all jpeg attachments by default at the
moment. I suppose it could be implemented as a feature but not for 1.2
-- you'd want to have it more generic than just [x] Automatically
display all jpegs. Ie, let the user specify which mimetypes are
automatically displayed, etc.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Memory Usage

2002-08-19 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 03:39, Oliver Kurlvink wrote:
 hm... and whay does my freebsds top shows me 6 evolutions and each has a
 different memory usage? (ranges go from 17 to 24mb size and 6 to 14 res)

There should only be one process named evolution running at once. You
probably have evolution and all its components: evolution,
evolution-mail, evolution-addressbook, etc.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Mail component crash

2002-08-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 19:59, Barry Grundy wrote:
 Just in the last couple of weeks I've started having a
 problem with evolution where the mail component
 crashes *every* time I send an e-mail.  I can't recall
 if it occured after an RC update or not.  The system
 in question is my work laptop, and I've had to revert
 back to Win/Eudora for awhile.  

You probably need to update your copy of the 'gal' library, if you're
using the 1.1.x development snapshots. If that's not the case or that
doesn't help, we'll need more information -- the best bet would be to
find instructions for how to run evolution-mail under gdb at
support.ximian.com (shouldn't be hard to dig up).

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] feature idea

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 03:44, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to present an idea to you all,
 

Posts to mailing lists are ephemeral. Feature requests in
bugzilla.ximian.com are forever.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Gnome 2 anti-aliasing in Evolution

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 05:48, Carlos 'Fjrb' Almeida wrote:
 Is it possible to have it ? Will it happen at some point ? It looks
 great as well as provides a better reading of on-screen characters, it's
 be great to have it, as it is, for instance, in Gedit (I'm using
 RedHat's Limbo beta).

It will happen when Evolution is ported to Gtk+ 2, which will happen
after 1.2 comes out, which is targetted for Octoberish.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Gnome 2 anti-aliasing in Evolution

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 12:59, David Hoover wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 08:21, Peter Williams wrote:
  It will happen when Evolution is ported to Gtk+ 2, which will happen
  after 1.2 comes out, which is targetted for Octoberish.
 Just to get clarification, do you mean that 1.2 is targeted for
 Octoberish, or that the GTK+ 2 work is targeted for Octoberish, which
 means 1.2 will be out before then?

1.2 is targetted for October; the GNOME 2 port will likely follow a few
months later (no new features planned, except for the move to gnome 2.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Adding a Camel Provider

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Williams

On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 07:21, Dave Kelly wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is all new to me.
 
 I am looking to add a new Camel provider. I can follow what I need to do 
 in terms of writing something but what is it that I need to do to so 
 that the mail-config wizard will list the new provider ?
 

You need to install your provider in $(camel_providerdir), which is
currently of the form /usr/lib/evolution/1.1/camel-providers/

If it's there, Camel should automatically detect it and make it
available for use, although depending on what flags you set on the
CamelProvider, it will try to use it differently .

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Delete from server when expunged in client...

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 07:18, Brian wrote:
 In the 1.0.x series of Evolution, there is a Work Offline button, but
 I've never used it.  I believe that in the soon-to-be released (in a few
 months anyway) 1.2, you can do this more easily.  I'm sure those on the
 list who have more experience than me in this regard could offer some
 input.
 

I've been working on the Offline support in 1.1.

The way it works is you can specify which folders will get synchronized
when you go offline, and Evolution will copy the unread messages from
those folders to disk so that you can read them. Messages that you've
already viewed will also be available. When you go back online, whatever
changes you've made will be synchronized with the server.

Evolution's IMAP support tends to be on the slow side but it's pretty
feature-complete. IMAP also has the advantage of having different
folders on the server, and if you can access the server you can access
all of your mail. (or: IMAP is for keeping mail on the server, POP is
for downloading mail to your computer.)

As Brian said, if your ISP supports IMAP, the easiest thing to do is
create an IMAP account and see how it works out for you. Unless you
start moving messages around, you'll basically be able to switch back to
POP if you don't like it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] moving to next unread message that belongs to acollapsed thread

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:12, Mertens Bram wrote:
 Hi,

 Any suggestions are welcome!

I use the Hide Read Messages menu item to do this, if I understand your
problem correctly. It's a godsend.

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 04:09, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
 Looks like this is going to keep running :-)
 
 Ximian folks, do you want me to open a bugzilla entry for this?
 
   Nigel.
 

I'd think that the mutt way ability to choose the identity based on the
recipient, rather than the current folder, will work a little better...
consider the case of a vfolder of messages from several mailing lists.

But either of those solutions feels a little hackish (too much hinting
from the user required) and would be difficult to implement right now.
Obviously we haven't got the logic right now, but I have a feeling that
there's a better way.

But anyway, go ahead and open a bugzilla bug, just don't be surprised if
it gets WONTFIXed :-)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] The lost message (weird filter behaviour)

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:24, Mertens Bram wrote:
 1) some filters are acting strange (btw I'm no longer having problems
 with the apply color filter

I suspect this has something to do with needing a Stop processing
rule, but it's difficult to say.

 
 2) Is it possible to see to which folder a message belongs when you're
 reading it in a vfolder? If not I think that would be a nice feature! :)
 

This is possible in 1.1.x; you can add a column to the message list
called Original Location. (You can add a column by right-clicking on the
headers of the message list).

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:55, Mertens Bram wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Apparently the filters are case-sensitive (no problem with that) but
 unfortunately most people on mailing lists are not! :)
 
 I've created a filter that looks for messages on the OpenOffice.org
 mailing list where the subject contains Calc. I would like this filter
 to also find messages where the subject contains calc and Cell and
 cell.

You could do this with a regex match, if you know how to use them.

As for Sounds like, I'm not sure how that's implemented, but it might
be worth a try (you can have the filter action be to mark the message a
specific color or copy it to a folder and see whether it works or not.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Anoncvs compile problems

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 11:06, Michael Hill wrote:
 Evolution from CVS last compiled for me on Monday.  The initial problem
 seemed to be libtool-related (couldn't find libssl.la) but now after
 upgrading to the latest libtool-autotools as well as openssl (Debian
 unstable), Evolution won't configure.
 

You're probably using a too-new automake. Evolution should be built with
version 1.4. There's a new automake 1.4 release out that calls the
executable automake-1.4, so you can get that to coexist with automake
1.6 if you need it.

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 12:18, Mertens Bram wrote:
 Unfortunately I don't! :( But I'm willing to learn! :)
 From what I've read (briefly) about regex, however, it's a) not easy, b)
 there's little documentation about it for the moment! Any suggestions
 where I might find (good - I'm still new to Evo +/- 3 weeks))
 documentation, Preferably with some examples?
 

I think what you want for your case is

Subject:.*[Cc](alc|ell)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 12:50, Mertens Bram wrote:

 I've just edited the rule so that it now says:
 Subject contains [Cc]alc
 
 Would that be correct?

No, you need to use the Regex Match rule, the Subject rule just does
text matching, as far as I know. See my other email.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Anoncvs compile problems

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 17:01, Michael Hill wrote:
 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused
 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations   -o test-dateedit 
 test-dateedit.o
 ./libemiscwidgets.a   ../../e-util/libeutil.la
-rdynamic -L/usr/lib
 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lbonobo_conf -lbonobo -lbonobox -lbonobo-print
 -lgtkhtml -lgal -lgnomeprint -lfreetype -lgdk_pixbuf -lgnomecanvaspixbuf
 -lglade-gnome -lglade -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE
 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -ldb -lgnomevfs -lxml -lz
 -lgconf-gtk-1 -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP
 -lORBitutil -lgtk -lgdk -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib
 -lpthread -ldl  
 libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libssl.la'
 

Does /usr/lib/libssl.la exist? Is it readable by you? Does the string
'libssl.la' appear in any /usr/lib/*.la ? I think something was compiled
against an openssl that you had compiled yourself, but now the libtool
helper script (the .la) is gone. You might just try making clean and
rebuilding if you haven't done that yet.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
 Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
 server sent from a PHP script? :) 
...

Perhaps the server has some kind of MIME filtering software installed
that is modifying the message?

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 08:51, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
 I've recently switched to the 1.1.x development snapshots, and the
 process evolution uses to determine the outgoing account/identity used
 when sending messages has changed.
 
 I have one receiving account defined - an IMAP server - and around 5
 other accounts with no receive option, and the sending information all
 the same other than the email address field.  Mail from all of those
 accounts ends up on the same IMAP server (although in different
 folders).
 
 With evolution 1.0.x the appropriate sending account was normally picked
 when replying to messages, presumably by matching the accounts against
 information in the To/Cc fields in the messages being replied to.

This should still work, but I've seen a couple of complaints about it,
so maybe something got broken at some point.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] How to Enable NNTP in evolution

2002-07-26 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 08:30, Gopi wrote:
 Now, is there anyway I can enable nntp support to this, i have compiled
 evolution with --enable-nntp=yes option but still i couldnt find any
 nntp option shown anywhere in evolution.

That's because the NNTP code is very old and hasn't been worked on in a
long time and is basically guaranteed not to work. There's a basic
framework that someone with the appropriate sk

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Re: [Evolution] evolution and openoffice mailto and send document

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 13:01, Zot O'Connor wrote:
 Has anyone gotten evolution to work with openoffice for send document,
 or mailto?
 

Unfortunately Evolution's mailto: URL handling is a bit primitive, all
we support is mailto:user@host on the commandline, so you won't be able
to attach a file from the commandline. The best you'll be able to handle
is sending a message to somebody, and it looks like OO expects a much
richer interface, so I'm not sure how you'd configure it to OO's liking.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Loading message content.... Lock-Ups

2002-07-24 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 09:24, Scott Comboni wrote:
 Hello not sure if anyone posted this already I did a brief check in the
 list.  Anyway I'm running evo 1.1.0.99 latest snap.  While clicking on
 messages I get a Loading message content and then evo locks.  Happens
 enough that I can repeat but it is not always the same message.
   

Can you get a backtrace and file a bug report? Email me if you need help
on how to do so.

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Re: [Evolution] This folder cannot contain messages

2002-07-24 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 14:01, jerm wrote:
 I have 2 account subfolders -- one a branch off of the inbox and another
 off the root of the account.  Each of my other accounts have one of
 these, but neither has both 

This is the problem. Creating subfolders of INBOX is broken in Evolution
right now, but there's a solution. If you open your IMAP account using
another client, you should see that you have another folder called INBOX
as a child of your real INBOX, and then your subfolders as children of
that INBOX. Delete the middle INBOX and you should be all set.

Peter


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Re: [Evolution] contacts-database format

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 00:41, c.c. wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i want to use it with openoffice as it's addressbook. i tried but it
 does not work.
 
 christoph
 

The easiest way to do this would be to import the OO addressbook into
evolution. The addressbooks wouldn't be synchronized, but that would be
very difficult to do correctly. You might try writing an Evolution
importer and importing your addressbook -- I don't know how feasible
this is. It depends on the format that OO uses to store its addressbook.
You might try filing a bug report and supplying a sample OO addressbook
for us to work from, but unfortunately I doubt this would be a high
priority at the moment.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Newbie questions: BCC and Shortcuts

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 07:31, Marc Janssens wrote:
 I recently switched to Evolution (1.0.8) as mail reader due to 
 some nice features (coming from Netscape).
 
 I'm using multiple PC's to read and write emails. To have all mails
 I've sent available on all PC's I was using Netscape.In Netscape it
 is possible to automatically BCC yourself to the list. Can someting
 similar be configured with Evolution? The mail account here is POP3.
 

This feature is in the 1.1.x development version, but not the 1.0
branch, sorry.

 For my work I want to switch to Evolution as well (mainly because
 its Calendar and Tasks funtion). Here I use an IMAP only mail server.
 I want to replace the standard Inbox in the Shortcuts menu with the
 inbox on the IMAP server. Is this possible?

Sure, if I remember correctly, all you need to do is right-click on the
old shortcut to delete it, then drag the icon from the folder tree to
the shortut bar.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Unable to send mail to person@ozemail.com.au

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:21, Mertens Bram wrote:
 However every time I try to send the message I get the following error:
 Error performing operation:
 DATA response error: message termination: Requested action not taken:
 mailbox unavailable: mail not sent

The person's smtp server is telling you that the email address that
you're trying to send to doesn't exist. You're probably using an old on
wrong email address.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] contacts-database format

2002-07-22 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 17:12, Scott wrote:
  On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 14:59, c.c. wrote:
  In theory, you don't need to know -- you should be able to use IDL to
  access anything you need. Why do you ask?
 
 I have a stupid question.  What is IDL?

Interface Definition Language. In our particular case, we use OMG CORBA
IDL (Object Management Group Common Object Request Brokering
Architecture) as CORBA is the basis of our IPC (Inter-Process
Communicaton). Does that make things clearer? :-)

Basically they're language-independent header files that define an
interface for talking to the addressbook. They live in /usr/share/idl.

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Re: Newbie questions/comments (Was: Re: [Evolution] Wish list/Todo?)

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 16:31, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 no, and in fact this has been removed in the development branch, there
 are no longer any single-key accelerators because of the new feature in
 the message-list that uses them.

Actually, it's been replace with ` (backtick).

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Re: [Evolution] configurable defaults or buttons on tool bar?

2002-07-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 17:44, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
 Hi, is there away to configue the buttons on the tool bar in evolution?
 
 I ask as 99 times out of 100 I forward inline so I wouldlike the make
 the default action (for me) on the forward button to inline, 

You can configure the default forward action... Tools | Preferences |
Composer Preferences | Forward Style.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Next and Previous

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 08:24, Anton J Aylward, CISSP wrote:
 But surely the cursor keys are the ultimate in being independent of the
 user's native language and cultural assumptions?
 
 The way the message and folder lists are laid out on the screen the
 intuitively obvious motion us up and down.

Well, right now up and down move one message at a time, as they should.
We need a way to move to the next/previous unread message.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Strategy for keyboard-friendly operation

2002-07-13 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Ben,

On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 23:02, Ben Escoto wrote:
 Hi, I have been thinking about making Evolution easy to use from the
 keyboard.  I think the basic strategy should be try to move as many
 commands as possible into the menu, and then allow Galeon-style binding
 using the menu.

Just to address this particular point, this feature was consciously
disabled in Evolution (and in any application that uses Bonobo menus).
The reasons being:

* It encourages us to work on a truly good set of keybindings instead
of leaving it up to the user
* It makes it easier for documenters, testers, and bug reporters
* There would be major technical problems getting this to work right
when several Bonobo components are merging menus (you could bind one key
to multiple commands, etc)

Basically, the concensus was that binding keys at will was a pretty neat
feature, but the benefit that it gives is not really great enough to
make it necessary. In my view it's a slightly unusual manifestation of
the configuritis problem that many Linux apps have -- far too many
options (cf Sawfish control center applets).

That being said, you can change keybindings if you want by editing
Evolution's Bonobo UI XML files, but that's not really a recommended
practice.

And, going back to the first point above, we should improve our keyboard
support; there are definitely still problems.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter

2002-07-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:33, Patrick J. Doland wrote:
 Howdy-
 
 Does anyone have an relatively effective set of filter rules to reduce
 spam with Evolution? 

The fad with the kids is to use SpamAssassin, it's supposed to be very
effective. You can't really hook it up into Evolution unless you're
using 1.1 and feeling a bit adventurous, but if that's not a problem,
I'd recommend it (though not having used it myself.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] RFE: ability to add headers to standard display.

2002-04-22 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 17:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 I'd like to be able to see the SpamAssassin and SpamBouncer headers that
 get added in the standard display. 
 

Assuming that you want to see those headers so you can figure out
whether a message is spam or not, a simpler thing to do might be to set
up some filters to sort messages based on the content of those headers.

That doesn't necessarily have any effect on the question of whether we
should let people display custom headers, but I thought I'd mention it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request: IMAP Folders on the Summary page

2002-04-16 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 10:40, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 06:22, Alec Edworthy wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Would it be possible to allow the adding of IMAP folders onto the
  Summary page like you can add normal folders now?
 
 This is implemented on the unstable version on CVS.
 

Um, it may be implemented, but right now the mail summary doesn't work
at all for me. Even local folders don't show up. I'm attaching a patch
to the shell and summary which gets things kinda-sorta working, but
there are still issues:

* Folders with counts of -1/-1 show up
* The folder selector shows noselect folders wrong
* I need to change the sort style of the folder selector in order to
see any folders there
* Folder names are weird
* Probably other stuff that I forget or haven't realized.

Peter

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Index: shell/ChangeLog
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/shell/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.904
diff -u -r1.904 ChangeLog
--- shell/ChangeLog 10 Apr 2002 19:01:08 -  1.904
+++ shell/ChangeLog 16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
+2002-04-16  Peter Williams  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+   * e-corba-storage-registry.c (impl_StorageRegistry_addStorage): Notify
+   listeners when a storage is added.
+
 2002-04-10  Dan Winship  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
* e-shell-config.c: Shell config page routines. Right now
Index: shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 e-corba-storage-registry.c
--- shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c9 Apr 2002 14:59:26 -   1.17
+++ shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -107,6 +107,7 @@
ECorbaStorageRegistryPrivate *priv;
EStorage *storage;
GNOME_Evolution_StorageListener listener_interface;
+   GSList *iter;
 
bonobo_object = bonobo_object_from_servant (servant);
storage_registry = E_CORBA_STORAGE_REGISTRY (bonobo_object);
@@ -123,6 +124,12 @@
}
 
gtk_object_unref (GTK_OBJECT (storage));
+
+   /* FIXME: if we remove a listener while looping through the list we can
+* crash. Yay CORBA reentrancy. */
+
+   for (iter = priv-listeners; iter; iter = iter-next)
+   listener_notify (iter-data, 
+GNOME_Evolution_StorageRegistry_STORAGE_CREATED, name);
 
listener_interface = CORBA_Object_duplicate 
(e_corba_storage_get_StorageListener
 (E_CORBA_STORAGE (storage)), ev);
Index: my-evolution/ChangeLog
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/my-evolution/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.180
diff -u -r1.180 ChangeLog
--- my-evolution/ChangeLog  9 Apr 2002 15:06:10 -   1.180
+++ my-evolution/ChangeLog  16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -1,3 +1,15 @@
+2002-04-16  Peter Williams  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+   * e-summary-mail.c (e_summary_folder_register_storage): Use
+   correct signal names: new-folder - new_folder, same for
+   removed_folder.
+   (e_summary_mail_generate_html): Loop through folder_store-shown,
+   not mail-shown.
+   (struct _ESummaryMail): the shown member is unused.
+   (new_folder_cb): Don't restrict ourselves to vfolders and locally
+   stored folders. Try to guess the toplevel URI of the storage
+   if possible.
+
 2002-04-08  Dan Winship  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
* component-factory.c (create_view): Add view_info arg but don't
Index: my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 e-summary-mail.c
--- my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c   4 Apr 2002 12:10:36 -   1.37
+++ my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c   16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@

GHashTable *folders;
 #endif 
-   GList *shown;
+   /*GList *shown;*/
ESummaryMailMode mode;
 
char *html;
@@ -154,7 +154,7 @@
g_free (s);
g_string_append (string, /a/b/dtddtable numcols=\2\ 
width=\100%\);

-   for (p = mail-shown; p; p = p-next) {
+   for (p = folder_store-shown; p; p = p-next) {
folder_gen_html (summary, p-data, string);
}
 
@@ -173,7 +173,7 @@
 {
/* Only regenerate HTML when it's needed */
e_summary_mail_generate_html (summary);
-   
+
if (summary-mail == NULL) {
return NULL;
}
@@ -216,11 +216,8 @@
GList *p;
 
/* Don't care about non mail */
-   if (strcmp

[Evolution] [Fwd: japanese not displaying correctly.]

2002-02-05 Thread Peter Williams



---BeginMessage---




---BeginMessage---

This topic was covered but unresolved in july 2001.  
overview:
http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/gtkhtml/2001-July/000168.html

This problem looks the same on my machine, but I've figured out a twist
to things.  I can view my japanese emails in galeon and emacs using the
fixed (sony) font.  When I tell gtkhtml to use that font, it seems to
ignore my request and continues to use the fixed(jis) font.  Yes I am
explicitly requesting the sony version in my .gnome/gtkhtml file.  I can
tell it's the other fixed font because... that's what the text looks
like :).  The sony font has big ugly serifs on the roman characters, and
I'm not seeing them in ev.

if you need more info please email me

owen williams

---End Message---
---End Message---


Re: [Evolution] delete selects next message

2001-12-15 Thread Peter Williams

On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 13:23, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
  Also is there a way to delete an email w/o opening it?
  thanks
 
 What I doo is select hte message before it, hold the shift and select
 teh message after it, you should now have three messages selected. 
 Press and hold the control key and de-select the fist and last message,
 now the message in the middle is still selected.
 

I press 'q' to turn off the message view pane, select and delete the
message, then press 'q' to turn it back on.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Japanese text input

2001-12-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 22:13, Damien Miller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to be able to write (and read) the occasional Japanese
 email in Evolution (which rocks BTW). I haven't been able to find any
 documentation on how I could go about this - can anyone point me to
 some?
 

This came up on this list about a week ago. Hopefully the following
thread in the online archives will help:

http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2001-November/015042.html

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Default view.

2001-11-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 22:55, George Farris wrote:
 Is there any way to set a default view?  I want Evo to come up in
 Summary view no matter what I was doing when I exited last.  It's really
 a pain to always have to click  Summary before exiting.
 

There's no way to do so from the UI, but one workaround is to run 

evolution evolution:/Summary

which will cause it to load that folder automatically.

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Re: [Evolution] Oaf-slay in gdm/Postsession

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 05 Jul 2001 22:29:09 -0700, George Farris wrote:
 Even with all the latest updates I still find I have to put oaf-slay in
 my /etc/gdm/Postsession/Defaults file or Evolution is slow like
 a dog.  I had heard reports that this was fixed.  Is there any news on
 this?
 

It is fixed on the CVS oaf (branch oaf-stable-0-6) but Ximian hasn't yet
pushed an RPM with the fix installed. Either install oaf yourself
(carefully!) or bug the distribution people to push an update.

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Re: [Evolution] Hey where did my forward inline go?

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 05 Jul 2001 22:40:02 -0700, George Farris wrote:
 
 Like the subject says, the latest snapshot seems to have made a
 disappearing act of the forward inline menu item.  Can we please, please
 have it back.
 

I can still find it in Actions - Forward As - Forward Inline.

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Re: [Evolution] I feel like a novice

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 06 Jul 2001 11:57:40 -0400, lehi wrote:
 Hey everybody.  I upgraded to Slackware 8.0 (still not sure if that was
 the BEST idea, but I'm sticking with it) and I'm having problems
 compiling evo.  

Your autoconf error is truly weird -- I have no idea what could be
causing this. Verify your installation of the autotools and gettext, I
guess -- maybe they are old versions?

As for your compile error, you need a newer GAL. If you're compiling CVS
evolution, you'll need CVS gal. ** I think ** Evolution 0.10 needs GAL
0.7.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] I feel like a novice

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 06 Jul 2001 12:52:07 -0400, lehi wrote:
 I thought about gal, and then i checked gnome-config --modversion
 gal and it returned gal-0.8
 

CVS HEAD gal is even newer -- 'gal-0.8.99.8' is what you want if you're
compiling HEAD evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing IMAP folder puts Evo into endless loop

2001-06-27 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Dan,

On 27 Jun 2001 09:26:52 -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:
 
 I don't know if this backtrace helps.  Do I need to get the other
 threads as well?
 
 Dan

Right, yes, the other threads. Can you do this?

Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution] Accessing IMAP folder puts Evo into endless loop

2001-06-27 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Dan,

On 27 Jun 2001 10:01:51 -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:
 Here you go.  Let me know if you need anything else...
 

Aha. Somehow evolution-mail is getting stuck while trying to communicate
with the shell. Usually this means either the shell is crashing or it is
locking somewhere. It'd be obvious if it were crashing so I guess the
shell is the actual culprit. If you don't mind getting /another/
backtrace, one from the evolution executable would be helpful...

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: [Evolution] some problems

2001-06-21 Thread Peter Williams

On 21 Jun 2001 21:02:28 +0930, Not Zed wrote:
  Q: is it - or will it be in future versions - possible to use nested
  vfolders in order to organize mails?
 
 Not yet, but one day i guess.
 

/me gets lightbulb over head

If a vfolder has another vfolder as its source (which is okay, right?)
then it could go as that vfolder's child in the folder tree.

This totally breaks if a vfolder has more than one vfolder as its
source, but it would be s sexy.

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request Mail - read next unread message

2001-06-16 Thread Peter Williams

On 16 Jun 2001 09:53:32 -0500, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:
 I would like to see a read next button( and keystroke) for selecting
 the next unread message in the folder.  It would be easier to reading.
 

Simply press 'n'.

(We really need to document these keybindings somewhere.)

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Re: [Evolution] gnome 1.4

2001-04-12 Thread Peter Williams

On 10 Apr 2001 22:13:45 -0400, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
 On 07 Apr 2001 10:54:57 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
  I just measured it: 12 seconds !
  And I think sometimes it's slower.
  I have a PII 300MHz, but when waiting for this dialog processor and disk
  are idle.
  RedHat 6.2, Ximian Gnome 1.4Beta, latest Evo snapshot (all by RedCarpet)
 
   Wow.  Can you please try running all the components into GDB and see
 where they are blocking?
 
   I am using 2.2.18 here and I am not experiencing this slowness.

So, upon further investigation, adding

unsetenv ("SESSION_MANAGER");

to cvs/gnome/oaf/oafd/main.c fixes the problem. Huzzah.

[Hm, I sent my explanation for why this works from my @newton.cx address
again, so it might not arrive on the mailing list.]

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Re: [Evolution] gnome 1.4

2001-04-10 Thread Peter Williams

On 10 Apr 2001 22:13:45 -0400, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
 On 07 Apr 2001 10:54:57 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
  I just measured it: 12 seconds !
  And I think sometimes it's slower.
  I have a PII 300MHz, but when waiting for this dialog processor and disk
  are idle.
  RedHat 6.2, Ximian Gnome 1.4Beta, latest Evo snapshot (all by RedCarpet)
 
   Wow.  Can you please try running all the components into GDB and see
 where they are blocking?
 
   I am using 2.2.18 here and I am not experiencing this slowness.
 

I just tried using GDB and strace to look at this problem; what I'm
getting is that libICE for some reason is doing several sleep(1)'s at
some poin while attempting to connect to the session manager. The
backtrace from GDB (not sure if this is what is actually causing the
slowness):

#0  0x40859c41 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40859bcd in __sleep (seconds=1) at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sleep.c:82
#2  0x40495abe in ConnectToPeer () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
#3  0x404950b5 in IceOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
#4  0x4048919d in SmcOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6
#5  0x403cbc76 in gnome_client_connect () at gnome-client.c:1225
#6  0x403cb2d4 in client_parse_func (ctx=0x8072bd0,
reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x0, data=0x0) at
gnome-client.c:871
#7  0x406f9b53 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x8072bd0, table=0x4044f120,
post=1) at popt.c:56
#8  0x406f9b1e in invokeCallbacks (con=0x8072bd0, table=0x8072ac8,
post=1) at popt.c:51
#9  0x406fa441 in poptGetNextOpt () at popt.c:297
#10 0x406f1189 in gnomelib_parse_args () at gnome-popt.c:100
#11 0x403f4f34 in gnome_init_with_popt_table () at gnome-init.c:299
#12 0x8059426 in init_corba (argc=0xba88, argv=0xbacc) at
main.c:42
#13 0x805944a in init_bonobo (argc=0xba88, argv=0xbacc) at
main.c:79
#14 0x80594d4 in main (argc=3, argv=0xbacc) at main.c:94

And the relevant output from strace:

nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 6
uname({sys="Linux", node="beta", ...})  = 0
connect(6, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/3027"}, 21) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(6)= 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0
[Same pattern repeats several times]
nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 6
uname({sys="Linux", node="beta", ...})  = 0
connect(6, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/3027"}, 21) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(6)= 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0
nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
write(2, "\n", 1)   = 1
write(2, "GnomeUI", 7)  = 7
write(2, "-", 1)= 1
write(2, "WARNING **: ", 12)= 12
write(2, "While connecting to session mana"..., 67) = 67
write(2, "\n", 1)   = 1

Hm, wish I could see the rest of that warning message :-)

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