Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 23:47 -0600, Sankar P wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 10:13 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > I have a feeling, though, that the main reason Evo is so much slower > > than Outlook is due to the summary info gathering which (used to?) > > grab > > all the mailing-list headers as well as the normal stuff in order to > > be > > able to vfolder on mailing-list. > > > I have made this as a configurable option and if the user does not want > to fetch mailing-list headers he can choose to. (Though the default is > that it will fetch) Ok, I thought I remembered someone doing that but I wasn't sure :) > > However, I am doubtful though how many users will be aware of what a > mailing-list header is. > > nod. There are quite a few of them, even I couldn't name them all off the top of my head :( Jeff ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 10:13 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > I have a feeling, though, that the main reason Evo is so much slower > than Outlook is due to the summary info gathering which (used to?) > grab > all the mailing-list headers as well as the normal stuff in order to > be > able to vfolder on mailing-list. I have made this as a configurable option and if the user does not want to fetch mailing-list headers he can choose to. (Though the default is that it will fetch) However, I am doubtful though how many users will be aware of what a mailing-list header is. > -- Sankar P Harver's Law: A drunken man's words are a sober man's thoughts Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 17:01 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > Hi Øystein > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote: > > Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail > > [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email > > solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail > > via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the > > IMAP standards as closely as possible, I agree here. I think we (Evolution team, although I'm not part of that, strictly speaking) should put a lot more effort in getting the best out of the latest IMAP standards. A lot of IMAP servers are also improving a lot lately, and are implementing these newer things. CONDSTORE, QRESYNC, IDLE, NOTIFY are samples of very interesting IMAP enhancements that we should support in my opinion. I also think that taking a look at spruce and GMime is a good idea for this. Although improving Camel's IMAP4 provider is not a bad idea either. The current Camel IMAP provider is limited in what we can make it do. I would, for example, love to have a solid client-side library that does pipelining with the IMAP server. Marrying the MIME handling with the server, for things like CATENATE, is also something I would love to have. Oh ... I have a lot of ideas :) > I think we should do explicit > > QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users' > > experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has > > already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than > > Evolution. That should change! > > It will change with 2.22. We are bringing down nice things down from > camel-lite to upstream camel and also doing nice things here as well. Note that I will attend a Lemonade meeting in Munich next month. If there are any items that I should raise for Evolution, you can let me know about them. I of course have a small list myself already. -- Philip Van Hoof, software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://www.pvanhoof.be/blog ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution
One thing you could do which would be of use would be to sniff the packets that Outlook sends to Google Mail's IMAP and log them for the Evolution developers to read so that perhaps they can see what queries Outlook is doing that is so much faster than what Evolution is doing and maybe try to mimic Outlook. I have a feeling, though, that the main reason Evo is so much slower than Outlook is due to the summary info gathering which (used to?) grab all the mailing-list headers as well as the normal stuff in order to be able to vfolder on mailing-list. Jeff On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote: > Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail > [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email > solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail > via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the > IMAP standards as closely as possible, I think we should do explicit > QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users' > experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has > already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than > Evolution. That should change! > > I've only used tested Evolution-GMail IMAP for a few minutes so far, > but already found a minor issue: I'm not able to prevent sent mail > from being stored. SMTP through GMail saves sent mails automatically. > > First of all, I'll recommend everyone to try out GMail IMAP, and then > I hope some initiative will be taken to QA this integration. > > Cheers, > Øystein > > [1] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/24/0249257 > ___ > Evolution-hackers mailing list > Evolution-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution
Hi Øystein On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote: > Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail > [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email > solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail > via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the > IMAP standards as closely as possible, I think we should do explicit > QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users' > experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has > already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than > Evolution. That should change! It will change with 2.22. We are bringing down nice things down from camel-lite to upstream camel and also doing nice things here as well. -Srini. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
