Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution

2007-10-25 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
One thing you could do which would be of use would be to sniff the
packets that Outlook sends to Google Mail's IMAP and log them for the
Evolution developers to read so that perhaps they can see what queries
Outlook is doing that is so much faster than what Evolution is doing and
maybe try to mimic Outlook.

I have a feeling, though, that the main reason Evo is so much slower
than Outlook is due to the summary info gathering which (used to?) grab
all the mailing-list headers as well as the normal stuff in order to be
able to vfolder on mailing-list.

Jeff

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote:
 Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail
 [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email
 solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail
 via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the
 IMAP standards as closely as possible, I think we should do explicit
 QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users'
 experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has
 already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than
 Evolution. That should change!
 
 I've only used tested Evolution-GMail IMAP for a few minutes so far,
 but already found a minor issue: I'm not able to prevent sent mail
 from being stored. SMTP through GMail saves sent mails automatically.
 
 First of all, I'll recommend everyone to try out GMail IMAP, and then
 I hope some initiative will be taken to QA this integration.
 
 Cheers,
 Øystein
 
 [1] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/24/0249257
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution

2007-10-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 17:01 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
 Hi Øystein
 
 On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote:
  Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail
  [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email
  solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail
  via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the
  IMAP standards as closely as possible, 

I agree here. I think we (Evolution team, although I'm not part of that,
strictly speaking) should put a lot more effort in getting the best out
of the latest IMAP standards.

A lot of IMAP servers are also improving a lot lately, and are
implementing these newer things. 

CONDSTORE, QRESYNC, IDLE, NOTIFY are samples of very interesting IMAP
enhancements that we should support in my opinion.

I also think that taking a look at spruce and GMime is a good idea for
this. Although improving Camel's IMAP4 provider is not a bad idea
either.

The current Camel IMAP provider is limited in what we can make it do. I
would, for example, love to have a solid client-side library that does
pipelining with the IMAP server.

Marrying the MIME handling with the server, for things like CATENATE, is
also something I would love to have.

Oh ... I have a lot of ideas :)

 I think we should do explicit
  QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users'
  experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has
  already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than
  Evolution. That should change!
 
 It will change with 2.22. We are bringing down nice things down from
 camel-lite to upstream camel and also doing nice things here as well. 

Note that I will attend a Lemonade meeting in Munich next month. If
there are any items that I should raise for Evolution, you can let me
know about them.

I of course have a small list myself already.


-- 
Philip Van Hoof, software developer
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gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] GMail IMAP support in Evolution

2007-10-24 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi Øystein

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:11 +0200, Øystein Gisnås wrote:
 Google seem to be in the process of introducing IMAP support to GMail
 [1]. Personally I think GMail offers an extremely attractive email
 solution by now. Evolution does already support integration with GMail
 via SMTP and POP, and now also via IMAP. In addition to following the
 IMAP standards as closely as possible, I think we should do explicit
 QA on Evolution-GMail IMAP integration, to make sure our users'
 experience is as good as possible. One of the slashdot comments has
 already commented that Outlook works better with GMail IMAP than
 Evolution. That should change!

It will change with 2.22. We are bringing down nice things down from
camel-lite to upstream camel and also doing nice things here as well. 

-Srini.

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