Re: [Evolution] Passwords

[Paul Stejskal]

于 2018年4月9日 CDT下午7:08:53, "andré via evolution-list"  
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>Le 2018-04-09 à 02:35, David a écrit :
>> On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 05:54 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 20:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 19:52 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 17:38 +0100, David wrote:
>> I've loaded seahorse onto my desk PC and it works fine, I cannot
>get
>> seahorse on to my laptop, unable to update was part of the reason
>I
>> replaced the hard drive and started again.
>>
>> I've got the old laptop hard drive, as a secondary drive, working
>in
>> my desk PC.
>>
>> Where should I go looking, with seahorse, to find the passwords?
>
>
>https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-April/msg00020.html

 The problem for the OP much likely is, that the OP runs a user
>session
 from the primary hard drive. The $HOME of the user on the secondary
>hard
 drive is not shown when running seahorse. One way to work around
>this,
 would be to change fstab entries, to mount /home/ from the
>secondary
 drive. This could have a few pitfalls. Is /home/ of the install of
>the
 primary disk on a separated partition or part of the root
>directory?
 When /home/ from the secondary partition is used, some software
>might
 transform data of apps for usage with the installed versions and
>the
 data might not be backwards compatible anymore and so on and so on.
>>>
>>> Ah, thanks for way better understanding the problem than I did! :)
>>>
>>> In that case I'd rather investigate why the OP cannot get Seahorse
>onto
>>> their laptop and what "unable to update" means exactly. Which might
>be
>>> off-topic for the scope of this Evolution mailing list.
>>>
>>> andre
>> 
>> A little bit of the background, I was unhappy with some Linux
>> distributions having old versions of programs, Evolution being one of
>> them.
>> 
>> After some research and trying various distributions I settled on
>> Manjaro. I was very pleased with this and loaded it onto my desk PC
>and
>> my laptop. Then one of the updates stopped my desk PC from booting. I
>> had to extract the files from the hard disk manually to continue
>> working. Evolution was the worst problem because I could not do a
>back
>> up, but I managed to get it working on the new distribution.
>> 
>> I then decided not to allow my laptop to upgrade, since then I've
>tried
>> to upgrade Manjaro or add new utilities without success.
>> 
>> Hence I decided to install a new SSD into my laptop on to which I've
>> loaded Debian 8. This could give me another problem, the Manjaro
>backup
>> was made with Evolution 3.22, the Debian 8 version is 3.12. I might
>have
>> to look at upgrading Evolution, I don't want to go through the hassle
>of
>> rebuilding Evolution again.
>> 
>> Looking where the passwords are stored, in the shadow files, I've
>copied
>> the shadow files from the Manjaro laptop disk and I'll try adding
>them
>> into another working system to see if I can read them with Seahorse.
>> 
>> I know Patrick is not going to like me saying this but all but one of
>> the passwords I've got written down. I just need to recover that G
>mail
>> password. I've tried accessing G mail, but without the password I'm
>> stumped.
>> 
>> David.
>>
>A suggestion :
>You could try putting all your passwords into a file with strong 
>password protection and a very obscure name.  Of course it is always 
>easy to forget putting a password or two in such a file.
>
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I agree with the earlier post about Last pass. 

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Re: [Evolution] Passwords

[andré via evolution-list]

Le 2018-04-09 à 02:35, David a écrit :

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 05:54 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 20:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 19:52 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 17:38 +0100, David wrote:

I've loaded seahorse onto my desk PC and it works fine, I cannot get
seahorse on to my laptop, unable to update was part of the reason I
replaced the hard drive and started again.

I've got the old laptop hard drive, as a secondary drive, working in
my desk PC.

Where should I go looking, with seahorse, to find the passwords?


https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-April/msg00020.html


The problem for the OP much likely is, that the OP runs a user session
from the primary hard drive. The $HOME of the user on the secondary hard
drive is not shown when running seahorse. One way to work around this,
would be to change fstab entries, to mount /home/ from the secondary
drive. This could have a few pitfalls. Is /home/ of the install of the
primary disk on a separated partition or part of the root directory?
When /home/ from the secondary partition is used, some software might
transform data of apps for usage with the installed versions and the
data might not be backwards compatible anymore and so on and so on.


Ah, thanks for way better understanding the problem than I did! :)

In that case I'd rather investigate why the OP cannot get Seahorse onto
their laptop and what "unable to update" means exactly. Which might be
off-topic for the scope of this Evolution mailing list.

andre


A little bit of the background, I was unhappy with some Linux
distributions having old versions of programs, Evolution being one of
them.

After some research and trying various distributions I settled on
Manjaro. I was very pleased with this and loaded it onto my desk PC and
my laptop. Then one of the updates stopped my desk PC from booting. I
had to extract the files from the hard disk manually to continue
working. Evolution was the worst problem because I could not do a back
up, but I managed to get it working on the new distribution.

I then decided not to allow my laptop to upgrade, since then I've tried
to upgrade Manjaro or add new utilities without success.

Hence I decided to install a new SSD into my laptop on to which I've
loaded Debian 8. This could give me another problem, the Manjaro backup
was made with Evolution 3.22, the Debian 8 version is 3.12. I might have
to look at upgrading Evolution, I don't want to go through the hassle of
rebuilding Evolution again.

Looking where the passwords are stored, in the shadow files, I've copied
the shadow files from the Manjaro laptop disk and I'll try adding them
into another working system to see if I can read them with Seahorse.

I know Patrick is not going to like me saying this but all but one of
the passwords I've got written down. I just need to recover that G mail
password. I've tried accessing G mail, but without the password I'm
stumped.

David.


A suggestion :
You could try putting all your passwords into a file with strong 
password protection and a very obscure name.  Of course it is always 
easy to forget putting a password or two in such a file.


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Re: [Evolution] Passwords

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 07:35 +0100, David wrote:
> I know Patrick is not going to like me saying this but all but one of
> the passwords I've got written down. I just need to recover that G mail
> password. I've tried accessing G mail, but without the password I'm
> stumped.

Gmail has a password recovery process via the web page, though normally
you will have had to register a backup email for this to work, or use
their 2-factor system.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Google Calendar sync

[Milan Crha]

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 07:47 +0600, Aleksandr Mezin wrote:
> Arch Linux, Evolution and the rest of Gnome version 3.28

Hi,
that's a bug in 3.28.0 with GOA accounts:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794879
It's fixed in today's 3.28.1 release.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Google Calendar sync

[Andre Klapper]

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 07:47 +0600, Aleksandr Mezin wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I cannot make Evolution see calendars from my Google account.
> Mail is configured through Gnome Online Accounts and works fine.
> But in "Evolution Accounts" I see only "Mail Accounts" and "Contacts"
> under my google account.

Is "Evolution Accounts" under "Edit > Accounts" within Evolution?

In GNOME's Settings, under "Online Accounts", when clicking on your
"Google Account" listed there, is "Use for Calendar" enabled?

> When I try to add the calendar manually (with "Type: Google"),
> Evolution shows me the message "Failed to connect calendar: OAuth2
> secret not found". Also, when i try to choose the calendar in "New
> Calendar" window, it shows the message "Data source Unnamed does not
> support OAuth 2.0 authentication"
> 
> Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Arch Linux, Evolution and the rest of Gnome version 3.28

Cheers,
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[Evolution] Google Calendar sync

[Aleksandr Mezin]

Hello.

I cannot make Evolution see calendars from my Google account.
Mail is configured through Gnome Online Accounts and works fine.
But in "Evolution Accounts" I see only "Mail Accounts" and "Contacts"
under my google account.
When I try to add the calendar manually (with "Type: Google"),
Evolution shows me the message "Failed to connect calendar: OAuth2
secret not found". Also, when i try to choose the calendar in "New
Calendar" window, it shows the message "Data source Unnamed does not
support OAuth 2.0 authentication"

Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Arch Linux, Evolution and the rest of Gnome version 3.28
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Re: [Evolution] Main window not moving to the right of left side of the screen

[Milan Crha]

On Sat, 2018-04-07 at 15:18 +0200, miranda.rd...@gmail.com wrote:
> However, when I open a message in Evolution the new window with the
> message works using that combination, the problem is with the main
> window.

Hi,
it sounds like:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776074
but it's rather old and closed already, though with no concrete fix.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Edit Entry Different Time Zone then System

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 07:29 -0400, Will W wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-04-08 at 07:02 -0400, Will W wrote:
> > A remote calendar (CalDav) 3.26.6 (3.26.6-1.fc27)
> 
> I would like to add that if I use my phone or tablet to create a new
> entry and then view it in Evolutionit is the correct timezone.
> This
>  is weird. 

Hi,
depending on the server, the event can be changed by it. You can verify
what evolution sends to the server and what it receives back when you
run the calendar factory from a terminal with enabled debugging:

   $ CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory -w

Then run evolution and repeat the steps. You should see new output on
the console of the calendar factory with raw iCalendar data. Search for
DTSTART and DTEND lines inside BEGIN:VEVENT and END:VEVENT lines, which
define the event as such. The DTSTART/DTEND should contain TZID
parameter. There's also a SUMMARY and all other details. When you save
an event in Evolution, it is written to the server (with the PUT
request) and immediately read back (with a GET request), then you can
compare what had been sent to the server and what the server returned
back.

This is only a guess, but I recall some servers do not like expanded
time zones, which libical can use, thus it can be the server rejected
the timezone definition and replaced it with UTC.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Passwords

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 09:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> "sudo cp -ai /mntpoint_old_drive/home/orignal_user/ /home/new_user"
> "sudo useradd -m -s /bin/bash new_user"
^^
   "-m" doesn't make sense, but it doesn't harm ;).

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ man useradd | grep -i "\-m," -A2
   -m, --create-home
   Create the user's home directory if it does not exist. The
files and directories contained in the skeleton directory (which can be
defined with the -k option) will be copied
   to the home directory.
--
   -M, --no-create-home
   Do no create the user's home directory, even if the system
wide setting from /etc/login.defs (CREATE_HOME) is set to yes.

> "sudo chown -R new_user:new_user /home/new_user"

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Re: [Evolution] Passwords

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2018-04-09 at 07:35 +0100, David wrote:
> Looking where the passwords are stored, in the shadow files, I've
> copied the shadow files from the Manjaro laptop disk and I'll try
> adding them into another working system to see if I can read them
> with Seahorse.

Hi,

what "shadow files"?

The Evolution related passwords are not stored in /etc/shadow. They are
somewhere stored in $HOME (/home/user/). I don't know where they are
stored, however, if you just would

"sudo cp -ai /mntpoint_old_drive/home/orignal_user/ /home/new_user"
"sudo useradd -m -s /bin/bash new_user"
"sudo chown -R new_user:new_user /home/new_user"

then log out and log in as the new user, you could access the passwords
using seahorse.

Since I'm an Arch Linux user, I strongly advise against using Manjaro
Linux or any other Arch Linux derivative.

Regards,
Ralf

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