As Tony says, search under Single Instance Storage (aka SIS) for the
techie explanation.
In the case your friend cites, he's wrong. What will happen is that your
mail gets sent to 1000 people, and there is one copy of it. Now if one
of them opens that mail and annotates it with their thoughts on
Actually, there are plenty of issues where a properly configured box gets
hacked. In fact, that had been an issue with older sendmail implementations
- they had holes that could be exploited with only connectivity to port 25.
And some of them were outright nasty.
Hence the reason for the boot
Actually, its one copy per server containing a mailbox in the distribution.
That's important to remember when dealing with multiple servers.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original
Quite so, thanks for the clarification Roger.
--
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
Senior IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
RM Eunt Domus
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 12:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE:
Well, to be nit-picky, its one copy per mailbox store!
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
Actually, its one copy per server
MS paid you to say that, didn't they... :P
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
Well, to be nit-picky, its one copy per mailbox
Yep. This year for Christmas they gave me the first season of Hello Larry
on DVD.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
MS paid you to
Andy is cheap at half that price. Me, I got a pen and some paper. I feel
so paid for.
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 13:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
Yep. This
confused
Which one of the Teletubbies is Larry?
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
Yep. This year for Christmas they gave me the
Dear All
I would be interested in any comments about the following ethical
problem.
Recently I was contacted by an acquaintance who sent me the following
email.
Hi
I would be grateful if you could forward an email to your colleagues
users about a number of telephony and Internet access
::dresses up like Abraham Lincoln and shoots Don::
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
I wanna be Issac!! :P
-Original Message-
From:
That's enough, Deckler
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
That's definitely spam. No question about it. Unless your colleagues have
specifically asked for emails about telco offers, that is. And of course we
all know that they haven't.
Cheers,
Phil
-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
I'd say that's spam. There is a lot of argument about what exactly spam is, and I
would say this falls under the definition I use - unsolicited, commercial, bulk.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 12:54
To: Exchange
Eh?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
That's enough, Deckler
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery
The crack about being paid by MS. That was very Deckler-esque =)
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15,
And?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
The crack about being paid by MS. That was very Deckler-esque =)
Eric Fretz
L-3
More ethical discussions?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: What is SPAM - Please comment
Dear All
I would be interested in any comments about the following ethical
problem.
Has anyone heard anything about this company called CITCO (not the oil
and gas Citgo), but CITCO Group - http://www.citco.com/
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Web Interface:
It's all good. The comment was made tongue-in-cheek
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:11 AM
Nope
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: company question
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:21:41 -0500
Has anyone heard anything about this company called CITCO (not the oil
and gas Citgo),
If you were to send it to a list like this then its SPAM.
If, on the other hand, its a mail to people internally surely you have
rules governing what can be sent over the network?
In the past the company I worked for allowed this, but as the numbers grew messages
sent out to ALL USERs (for
Spam.
I'd be cross if you sent that to me.
If you know me well enough to mention it and you think I'd be interested you
can tell me when we're down the pub, otherwise you can keep this and
anything else that isn't directly related to work to yourself.
I don't see what the ethical problem is.
Correct me if Im wrong (and I know you will.), unless the actual attachment itself is
altered, Exchange still stores just 1 copy of the attachment for all 1000 recipients
plus a copy of the original email, now shared by 999 recips, and 1 altered copy of the
email stored by the person who
Yeah. Whatever.
goes and sulks at his Ex5.5 deployment
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December
You do not know the specifics of their situation so I am not sure why you
are so certain that the project was severly underscoped and underbid.
Rushed, yes. Underscoped and underbid, no. The scope is to get them from
GroupWise 6.5 to Exchange 2000 and that is what is being delivered.
Underbid,
Tl;dr. Will everyone just drop this discussion? We don't need another 75
e-mails on this today.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
Tl;dr. Will everyone just drop this
My brain tickles when I pick my nose
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
My cat's breath smells like cat
Sometimes I feel funny when I climb the rope in Gym class.
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15,
Obviously, you're either sticking your finger all the way past the
second knuckle again or you've had too many facelifts
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons
Me fail english? Thats unpossible!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
Sometimes I feel funny when I climb
You've got the women just lining up for you don't ya...
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
My brain tickles when I pick my
You can fix fat, but you can't fix ugly...
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
Sometimes I feel funny when I climb the rope in Gym
Anyone here involved on the HP/USPS Exchange project? Contact me offlist?
_
Cell phone switch rules are taking effect find out more here.
http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx
I like crickets and figs
John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.
Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
Day 3 was pretty much finishing up some details with nothing much new and
exciting to report. Was able to bring up the GW 6.5 client connected to
both GW and Exchange and this allows one to drag and drop contacts but not
PDL's. Also tried with the GW 5.2.6 client with similar results.
Created a
You do too? I thought I was the only one.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
Sometimes I feel funny
In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a
fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion
is absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything that comes
out of anyone's mouth is simply an opinion and not a fact. In my opinion,
My head hurts. That's a fact
From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0800
In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that
Regarding general sources of corporate computing outages, these figures seem to be
accurate. Agree?
Communication lines and services 80 percent
Servers 14 percent
Routers and switches 1 percent
Regards,
Orin
Poor Admin Practices : 90%
-Original Message-
From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Sources of outages
Regarding general sources of corporate computing outages, these figures seem
to be accurate.
First of all, from a grammatical point-of-view, you only need to state that
it is your opinion at the beginning of a paragraph or passage because it is
fundamentally understood that follows the first phrase or sentence further
backs up your opinion.
It is my opinion that you are more worried
Thankfully (knocking on wood) not here. Why not figure in the desktop's
into this calculation? In the last 12 months here, we have had about the
following:
Comm line/svs 85% (12% scheduled) (most caused by a mass outage due to that
little thing called Isable)
Servers (mid-range and windows) 2%
Oh. My.
I think that was TMI, Eric.
Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:26 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5
You forget that you're comparing me to the guy that tickles his brain when
he picks his nose. Frankly, I seem a bit tame. =)
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Ben
When I grow up I want to be a principalor a caterpillar.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
You
Well, some day I'd like to be a dentist. - Hermey
- Matt
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
When I grow up I want to be a
I want to be a fig farmer
John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.
Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
Any email with MVP in the signature is spam.
-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: What is SPAM - Please comment
More ethical discussions?
-Original Message-
From:
Oh wait, I get it. Since MVPs are unethical and SPAM is unethical, any
message coming from an MVP must be unethical.
Phew. I'm glad you pointed that out to the list.
/tongue-in-cheek
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:
Apathy - 75%
-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sources of outages
Poor Admin Practices : 90%
-Original Message-
From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
I'm just thankful that my anti-spam software has correctly identified and
properly dealt with these Spam related posts. The best 2k of my companies
money I've ever spent!
Oh wait, I get it. Since MVPs are unethical and SPAM is unethical, any
message coming from an MVP must be unethical.
What percentages is due to covert action by unethical MVPs with secret
agendas ?
-Original Message-
From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sources of outages
Apathy - 75%
-Original Message-
Is your software scanning for the word spam in the message subject? :)
Or MVP?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: What is SPAM - Please comment
I'm just thankful that my
I don't know, but I bet its much less than can be atributed to covert actions by
unethical end users with secret agendas who then tell you bald faced lies and repeat
them in the face of obvious evidence.
-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday,
Hi Everyone,
I am haviong a hard time figguring this simple issue out and I am hoping
that you all can help me. For some reason when I give a user permission to
a simple calendar (called scheduling or something) they keep getting a
popup box that says 'Store Cannot Be Opened'.
Ok thats easy
Something rings a bell... I think we had a discussion about this a few
weeks ago. I believe it is supposed to work across stores but there may
be a bug. Maybe there is even a fix, I just can't remember yet.
-Original Message-
From: Timothy Schilbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
There is no secret cabal!!!
-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sources of outages
What percentages is due to covert action by unethical MVPs with secret
agendas ?
No, but it might be a government conspiracy. That's what my friend Rusty
Shackleford thinks, anyways.
(Note: $5 USD to the person that can name the TV show and character that
said that line)
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:
Thank you for the prompt reply, I should start by stating that all of our
servers are at:
Windows 2000 w/ SP4
Exchange 2000 w/ SP Post SP3 Hotfix (September)
I have all hotfixes and everything else applied, this is just really wierd
that its ok on the same servers or between stores on the same
I'll tell you what! That has to be Dale, the exterminator from King of the
Hill. Keep your $
-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sources of outages
No, but it might be a government
Excellent job!
I have 4 seasons of King of the Hill sitting on my Tivo right now.
Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel: 972.772.7501
fax: 972.772.7510
-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Do they have My Mother the Car?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:43 AM
To:
We can help you with that!
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange
We should change the name of this list to Deckler's Blog.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Monday, December
Excuse me, but you seem to have us confused with people that give a rat's
ass what you think.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Looking down, I see that you just pleaded, Will everyone just drop this
discussion? Didn't you really mean everyone else?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam is a synonym of the more technically correct term, unsolicited
commercial e-mail, or UCE. The name is pretty much self-defining.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is not normal behavior. Sorry that I can't tell you what is causing
it, though.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy
We have some logical fallacies floating about here.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003
Actually I just gave up, and gave in
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000
Looking down, I see that you
Pretty quickly--six minutes. There's a name for that but this is a family
forum.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher
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