RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-07-02 Thread Midgley, Ian
better :( . Anyone got any good ideas other than Exchange 2003? -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 July 2003 04:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? (Can't resist - it's a 4-node cluster, with a passive same-scale

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-07-02 Thread Slinger, Gary
XP Pro Win2KPro, plus some OWA. -Original Message- From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 09:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? What client configurations are you thinking of supporting? We have a centralized

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-07-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
only 16,000 users? on an 8-node cluster? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Clustering... is it worth it? But do consider revisiting this with 2003. With Microsoft running 16,000

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-07-01 Thread William Lefkovics
: Clustering... is it worth it? only 16,000 users? on an 8-node cluster? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Clustering... is it worth it? But do consider revisiting this with 2003

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-07-01 Thread Slinger, Gary
: Clustering... is it worth it? only 16,000 users? on an 8-node cluster? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Clustering... is it worth it? But do consider revisiting this with 2003

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-30 Thread Erik Sojka
you two kiss and make up now. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? You are totally right. Cochran's slides do say that. My notes do

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-30 Thread Slinger, Gary
You're confusing me with Andi... Oh, wait - wrong list. Never mind :) -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 08:42 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? you two kiss and make up now. -Original

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-30 Thread William Lefkovics
And I don't wear make up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? You're confusing me with Andi... Oh, wait - wrong list

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2003-06-28 Thread Glenn Corbett
been pretty solid. 2k3 may be a different kettle of fish. My $0.02 G. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? I believe they have always

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2003-06-27 Thread Andy David
I don't see the benefits either. Your two points are spot on. Exchange failures are generally due to poor hardware or poor administration. Mitigate these two issues and you will have a great single-node [1] cluster. [1] Single-Node copyright Ed Crowley. -Original Message- From:

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's pretty much the argument against clustering. In fact, many folks will tell you that Exchange needs much more hand holding in a cluster. -Original Message- From: MSX dude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Clustering...

Re: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread William Lefkovics
Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? That's pretty much the argument against clustering. In fact, many folks will tell you that Exchange needs much more hand holding in a cluster. -Original Message- From: MSX dude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:50 PM

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread Schneider, Bryan D
Cc: Subject: Re: Clustering... is it worth it? But do consider revisiting this with 2003. With Microsoft running 16,000 users on an 8-node cluster now. Windows2003 and Exchange2003 of course. - Original

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread Andy David
Havent they recommended Active/Passive for awhile now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schneider, Bryan D Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? You have the benefit

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2003-06-27 Thread William Lefkovics
, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? You have the benefit of quick recovery in event of hardware failure on the server (not likely typically). But, it is really nice for maintenance where you have to apply patches, security updates, virus engine updates, service packs, etc

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2003-06-27 Thread Martin Blackstone
I believe they have always recommended an Active/Active cluster. Paul Roubicheux sais the E2K3 clusters awesomely. -Original Message- From: Schneider, Bryan D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth

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2003-06-27 Thread Andy David
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? I believe they have always recommended an Active/Active cluster. Paul Roubicheux sais the E2K3 clusters awesomely. -Original Message- From: Schneider, Bryan D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:14 PM

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread Slinger, Gary
The TechEd PPT was 4-1-2; other than that, concur. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Clustering... is it worth it? Definitely Active/Passive. The 8-node cluster I mentioned

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2003-06-27 Thread William Lefkovics
The PPT would be wrong then as 4+1+2 8 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? The TechEd PPT was 4-1-2; other than

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread Slinger, Gary
of basic math. 8, to my recollection, notes, and thoughts of the PPT, is wrong., -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? The PPT would be wrong then as 4

RE: Clustering... is it worth it?

2003-06-27 Thread William Lefkovics
To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Clustering... is it worth it? OK, I'll try it another way - the presentation that I heard at Tech-Ed, matched up against my notes, indicated that it was: A) 4 x 4-way servers, active, plus B) 1 x 4-way server, passive, plus C) 2 x 2-way servers, passive