Re-assign/ Move mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Hackney

SBS 2k  (exchsp3 pos fixes)
I have a user whose account has become corrupt and on advice from PSS I
have been told to delete it.  I have created a new account for the user
which accesses the original mailbox.  I would like to move/ re-assign
the original mailbox which is attached to the corrupt user account to
hhis new account.  Is there a way of doing this within the same site
other than pst?  I've looked around (google/ technet/ etc) but have been
unable to find an answer.

Thanks
Rob
Support Analyst 
TKC Group Ltd 
Unit 3 Ashmead Ind Est 
Keynsham 
BS31 1TZ 
UK 
0117 916 1320 

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RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Couch, Nate
It seems to me that all you need to do is add the new AD account to the
original mailbox and then remove the old corrupt account from the
permissions. 

Maybe I am missing something, but that should do it.

Nate Couch
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 From: Rob Hackney
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:01 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Re-assign/ Move mailbox
 
 
 SBS 2k  (exchsp3 pos fixes)
 I have a user whose account has become corrupt and on advice from PSS I
 have been told to delete it.  I have created a new account for the user
 which accesses the original mailbox.  I would like to move/ re-assign
 the original mailbox which is attached to the corrupt user account to
 hhis new account.  Is there a way of doing this within the same site
 other than pst?  I've looked around (google/ technet/ etc) but have been
 unable to find an answer.
 
 Thanks
 Rob
 Support Analyst 
 TKC Group Ltd 
 Unit 3 Ashmead Ind Est 
 Keynsham 
 BS31 1TZ 
 UK 
 0117 916 1320 
 
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Matt Hoffman
I want to know who I can call to make sure I'm getting my proper kickbacks.
That's money I'm losing out on Deckler!

Matt

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 1:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except for me.


Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
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Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Oh, it's the same guy all right.

http://www.infonition.com/home.shtml

And his age old arguments about how unprofessional we all are are now
here: http://www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml

Of course he's still wrong.  His counterpoint to IT people being unethical
compared to doctors and lawyers is ridiculous.  Do give
http://www.infonition.com/docs/Briefs/The%20Importance%20of%20Ethics%20i
n%20IT.pdf a read for fun.  

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

At only 88 pages, it doesn't seem like it would be the same guy.  He used to
have posts in this list longer than that!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Subject: Deckler wrote a book?!?

For those of you that remember the early days of the list, is this the same
Deckler that used to post here?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595289703/qid%3D1063417520/sr%3D
11-1
/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-3211233-4840161


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RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Hackney
Hi Nate,
I have added the new AD account already and removed the 'SELF' rights
from mailbox permissions however when I try and delete the 'corrupt'ad
account, I cannot deselect the check box against 'mark this mailbox for
deletion'.
Perhaps this is a Small Business server restriction?  Doesn't make much
sense if it is.
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 September 2003 13:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox


It seems to me that all you need to do is add the new AD account to the
original mailbox and then remove the old corrupt account from the
permissions. 

Maybe I am missing something, but that should do it.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 From: Rob Hackney
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:01 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Re-assign/ Move mailbox
 
 
 SBS 2k  (exchsp3 pos fixes)
 I have a user whose account has become corrupt and on advice from PSS 
 I have been told to delete it.  I have created a new account for the 
 user which accesses the original mailbox.  I would like to move/ 
 re-assign the original mailbox which is attached to the corrupt user 
 account to hhis new account.  Is there a way of doing this within the 
 same site other than pst?  I've looked around (google/ technet/ etc) 
 but have been unable to find an answer.
 
 Thanks
 Rob
 Support Analyst
 TKC Group Ltd 
 Unit 3 Ashmead Ind Est 
 Keynsham 
 BS31 1TZ 
 UK 
 0117 916 1320 
 
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RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
It's okay to delete the mailbox if you have retention set on the Store. PSS 
didn't give you exact directions. Check out 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enfamilyid=9e52bafc-5c33-46b9-af14-04e4d989ef6b

From: Rob Hackney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:05:41 +0100
Hi Nate,
I have added the new AD account already and removed the 'SELF' rights
from mailbox permissions however when I try and delete the 'corrupt'ad
account, I cannot deselect the check box against 'mark this mailbox for
deletion'.
Perhaps this is a Small Business server restriction?  Doesn't make much
sense if it is.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 September 2003 13:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox
It seems to me that all you need to do is add the new AD account to the
original mailbox and then remove the old corrupt account from the
permissions.
Maybe I am missing something, but that should do it.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging
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 From:  Rob Hackney
 Reply To:  Exchange Discussions
 Sent:  Monday, September 15, 2003 7:01 AM
 To:Exchange Discussions
 Subject:   Re-assign/ Move mailbox


 SBS 2k  (exchsp3 pos fixes)
 I have a user whose account has become corrupt and on advice from PSS
 I have been told to delete it.  I have created a new account for the
 user which accesses the original mailbox.  I would like to move/
 re-assign the original mailbox which is attached to the corrupt user
 account to hhis new account.  Is there a way of doing this within the
 same site other than pst?  I've looked around (google/ technet/ etc)
 but have been unable to find an answer.

 Thanks
 Rob
 Support Analyst
 TKC Group Ltd
 Unit 3 Ashmead Ind Est
 Keynsham
 BS31 1TZ
 UK
 0117 916 1320

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RE: Re-assign/ Move mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Jeff Beckham
If you are running exchange 2000 sp3, you have an updated ADUC.  Click
on view and enable the advanced features.  Right click on the corrupt
user and choose Exchange Tasks.  Remove the exchange attributes.  Go
into the ESM and right click on mailboxes and choose run cleanup
agent.  After it completes, the mailbox in question should have a red X
over it.  Right click on it and choose reconnect.  This will allow you
to pick the new account you want to connect to it.

Jeff

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Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:01 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Re-assign/ Move mailbox
Subject: Re-assign/ Move mailbox


SBS 2k  (exchsp3 pos fixes)
I have a user whose account has become corrupt and on advice from PSS I
have been told to delete it.  I have created a new account for the user
which accesses the original mailbox.  I would like to move/ re-assign
the original mailbox which is attached to the corrupt user account to
hhis new account.  Is there a way of doing this within the same site
other than pst?  I've looked around (google/ technet/ etc) but have been
unable to find an answer.

Thanks
Rob
Support Analyst 
TKC Group Ltd 
Unit 3 Ashmead Ind Est 
Keynsham 
BS31 1TZ 
UK 
0117 916 1320 

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RE: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes

2003-09-15 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Isn't that permissions/account modification information going to be in the
logs for one of your DC's?

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes


Thanks to everyone who helped! I finally found out the culprit. Something
very stupid to boot. Almost 200 out of 500 mailboxes had their primary NT
account changed to another person's NT account. It appears to be totally
random as well. The first person I had to troubleshoot on had the correct NT
account as a primary as he was already logged in to Outlook when the script
ran. So I didnt pick up on that immedaitely. Then when he logged off and
could not get back in . . . we were clued in.


I suspect a rouge WSH script as the developers have been working on one to
auto create mailboxes via a web interface.

So you know my next question . . . anyone think of a way to track this down?
I see the 200 Informational messages from the DS in the event logs about
account properties being changed, but not by who or what.

Any other suggestions? Obviously someone is hot to know how this happened .
.  .

Thanks!

Chris

PS I know about doing that work on a Dev Domain/Exchange server . . . I
warned them about that but was vetoed! :)


- Original Message - 
From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes



 There has to be something logging when attempting to login to the 
 mailbox. Did you look hard at the logs?


 From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes
 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:56:04 -0400

 So nothing was changed on the servers?
 Was anything changed on those workstations?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes


   cannot find inbox for same users via OWA
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:34 AM
   Subject: RE: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes
  
  
   This may seem too simple but can they resolve the email servers 
 name. Also   try accessing via OWA is that ok. Everytime this comes 
 up it is either
a
   network problem or DNS
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H  
  Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:25 AM   To: Exchange 
 Discussions  
   that is the puzzling part . . .
  
   auth to different dc's
   mail on different mail servers
   different segments/switches on the network
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:16 AM
   Subject: Re: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes
  
  
Any commonality that you can see among those 60 users?
   
- Original Message -
From: Chris H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: Users Cannot Log Into Mailboxes
   
   
 all of a sudden this morning about 60 out of 400 cannot log into
the
 exchange servers via Outlook.

 The set of folders could not be opened. You do not have 
 permission
to
   log
 on.

 NT 4 domain
 Windows 2000 sp 3
 Exchange 5.5 sp4

 all servers have operated fine for over 2 years no probs 
 this started this morning have tried:

 new profile
 rebooting all dc's
 turning off nt auth in mail profile
 mapping the ipc$ to a mail server (says it doesnt exist but it is
 there)
 I dont see a named pipes binding as some articles suggest

 any other ideas

 Thanks!

 Chris


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Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box.
Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:

Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days

The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday
When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean now I get
this:

Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50. 

Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB. 


I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4


TIA,
Joshua










Joshua Morgan
Senior Network Administrator
AIMCO


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Re: Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
I think Exmerge changes the time stamp of messages. Not sure open and look 
see.

From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:17 -0400
Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box.
Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:
Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days
The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday
When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean now I get
this:
Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50.
Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB.
I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4
TIA,
Joshua








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Senior Network Administrator
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RE: Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
I understand, but that's why I set the time to only be 3 days...

It also is not sending any log files to my Administrator mailbox






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-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mailbox Manager


I think Exmerge changes the time stamp of messages. Not sure open and look 
see.


From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:17 -0400

Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box. Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:

Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days

The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean
now I get
this:

Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50.

Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB.


I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4


TIA,
Joshua










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RE: Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
I was thinning maybe a permissions issue but you are probable using the 
Exchange account to login and run. But since this is a 5.5 Exchange server, 
maybe something to do with LegacyDN. Are you running AD yet.

From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:24:25 -0400
I understand, but that's why I set the time to only be 3 days...

It also is not sending any log files to my Administrator mailbox





Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mailbox Manager
I think Exmerge changes the time stamp of messages. Not sure open and look
see.
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:17 -0400
Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box. Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:
Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days
The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean
now I get
this:
Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50.
Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB.
I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4
TIA,
Joshua








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RE: Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
We are running AD and I thought of permissions too I was just unsure where
to start looking, because I am using the Service account.






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-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager


I was thinning maybe a permissions issue but you are probable using the 
Exchange account to login and run. But since this is a 5.5 Exchange server, 
maybe something to do with LegacyDN. Are you running AD yet.


From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:24:25 -0400

I understand, but that's why I set the time to only be 3 days...

It also is not sending any log files to my Administrator mailbox






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mailbox Manager


I think Exmerge changes the time stamp of messages. Not sure open and look
see.


From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:17 -0400

Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box. Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:

Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days

The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean
now I get
this:

Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50.

Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB.


I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4


TIA,
Joshua










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Senior Network Administrator
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RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials

2003-09-15 Thread Egleston, DuBose
Thanks.  This worked for me on the same issue, but I only had one user
affected.

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-Original Message-
From: Nikki Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials


OL: You Continuously Receive Prompts for Your NT Domain Credentials
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b321652

Nikki

 I've actaully created a new test account to try and repicate this 
 issue. The first time I tried to open Outlook with the new account the

 prompt appeared.  After hitting cancel about 10 times, Outlook worked 
 fine. Then, when I let this new account sit for about 1/2 hour the 
 prompt reappeared.  I will try deleting this profile to see if it 
 makes any difference as well as look into RFR.
 
  Does this happen if the users create a new Outlook profile? (maybe 
  something got screwed up in their original profiles)
  
  Outlook 2000 uses RFR. After the first contact with the Exchange 
  2000 server, it is instructed to talk directly to the domain 
  controllers.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Andrey Fyodorov
  Systems Engineer
  Messaging and Collaboration
  Spherion
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Nadine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials
  
  At this point there are no known issues between the clients and 
  domain controllers.  They are all running Outlook 2000.
  
   Then probably the RFR or NSPI component of the System Attendant
  service
   is misbehaving. RFR is in charge of arranging a meeting between a 
  MAPI  client and a Global Catalog. For some reason such a meeting 
  is not  taking place. Are there network issues between clients and 
  domain  controllers? =20
   By the way, which version of Outlook are they using? If it is 2000
or
   2002, then RFR may be to blame.
  =20
   Outlook 97 and 98 do not use RFR services, instead they rely on
NSPI
   proxy - the Exchange server talks to GC on their behalf. NSPI
normally
   uses randomly negotiated RPC TCP ports. Have there been any port
   closures recently? There is a way to tell NSPI to only use
specific
   ports.
  =20
   Sincerely,
  =20
   Andrey Fyodorov
   Systems Engineer
   Messaging and Collaboration
   Spherion
  =20
  =20
   -Original Message-
   From: Nadine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:53 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials
  =20
   Andrey,=3D20
  =20
   Actually at this point passwords are not set to expire on this
  network.=3D20
   This will even happen to a new account that has just been setup.  
   It seems to be happening to all the users connected to this 
   exchange server,
  not
   just a select few.
  =20
   Nadine
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RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

2003-09-15 Thread Chris Megginson
You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to
another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services,
all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases.
I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has
always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere
just in case.

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RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Blackstone
No way. Never do it manually, never.

Way to often people move or delete their log files and hose the whole
system. Next thing you know they are on the phone with PSS.

Use the tools provided by Exchange to do the job. In your case, the
optimizer. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to
another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services,
all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases.
I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has
always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere
just in case.

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RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
What? I don't thnik so.

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Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:53:41 -0700
You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to
another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services,
all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases.
I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has
always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere
just in case.
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RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

2003-09-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
And how do you tell Exchange where to look for transaction logs next
time it starts?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files
to
another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the
services,
all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases.
I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has
always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere
just in case.

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RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

2003-09-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
You are kidding, right?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files

You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files
to
another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the
services,
all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases.
I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has
always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere
just in case.

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PF renaming

2003-09-15 Thread Hatley, Ken
Is there a way to rename Public Folders from the command line?

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Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread tony


Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error 
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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Mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Senty
Hi Experts,
sorry for my little knowledge as new to Exchange. Got inherited with some
couple of  Exchange servers. I want to know if its possible to create a new
mail box and hide it and if possible all the incoming mails can be received
or not..

Looking forward to hear from you.

Senty


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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Joel Wampler
maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and it
looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and get
paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional governing body
and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a doctor,
which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Finch Brett
 Yep, Advanced TAB can hide it from the GAL (also means you can not access
it from OWA). 

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox


Hi Experts,
sorry for my little knowledge as new to Exchange. Got inherited with some
couple of  Exchange servers. I want to know if its possible to create a new
mail box and hide it and if possible all the incoming mails can be received
or not..

Looking forward to hear from you.

Senty


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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Blackstone
You could take the work IT out of these kinds of statements and put in
anything you want and it would come out exactly the same 

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and it
looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and get
paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional governing body
and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a doctor,
which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except for
me.
 
 
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Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a lab.?

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700


Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.
Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.
Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;
Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.
This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.
The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.
Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.
If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.
Thanks.

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Matt Hoffman
Well, to look at your point about a Pfizer certification, don't mechanics
have different certifications based on what type of automobiles they work
on?  I believe there's a Ford certification and something else...  I'm not
real knowledgable on the subject.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Joel Wampler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and it
looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and get
paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional governing body
and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a doctor,
which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except for
me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials

2003-09-15 Thread Nadine
I did find this artical earlier and all systems already have the correct
values.  So I'm still getting the same issue.

 Thanks.  This worked for me on the same issue, but I only had one user
 affected.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Nikki Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:19 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials
 
 
 OL: You Continuously Receive Prompts for Your NT Domain Credentials
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb%3ben-us%3b321652
 
 Nikki
 
  I've actaully created a new test account to try and repicate this=20
  issue. The first time I tried to open Outlook with the new account the
 
  prompt appeared.  After hitting cancel about 10 times, Outlook worked=20
  fine. Then, when I let this new account sit for about 1/2 hour the=20
  prompt reappeared.  I will try deleting this profile to see if it=20
  makes any difference as well as look into RFR.
 =20
   Does this happen if the users create a new Outlook profile? (maybe=20
   something got screwed up in their original profiles)
  =20
   Outlook 2000 uses RFR. After the first contact with the Exchange=20
   2000 server, it is instructed to talk directly to the domain=20
   controllers.
  =20
   Sincerely,
  =20
   Andrey Fyodorov
   Systems Engineer
   Messaging and Collaboration
   Spherion
  =20
  =20
   -Original Message-
   From: Nadine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials
  =20
   At this point there are no known issues between the clients and=20
   domain controllers.  They are all running Outlook 2000.
  =20
Then probably the RFR or NSPI component of the System Attendant
   service
is misbehaving. RFR is in charge of arranging a meeting between a=20
   MAPI  client and a Global Catalog. For some reason such a meeting=20
   is not  taking place. Are there network issues between clients and=20
   domain  controllers? =3D20
By the way, which version of Outlook are they using? If it is 2000
 or
2002, then RFR may be to blame.
   =3D20
Outlook 97 and 98 do not use RFR services, instead they rely on
 NSPI
proxy - the Exchange server talks to GC on their behalf. NSPI
 normally
uses randomly negotiated RPC TCP ports. Have there been any port
closures recently? There is a way to tell NSPI to only use
 specific
ports.
   =3D20
Sincerely,
   =3D20
Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion
   =3D20
   =3D20
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From: Nadine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: continuous prompt for NT domain credentials
   =3D20
Andrey,=3D3D20
   =3D20
Actually at this point passwords are not set to expire on this
   network.=3D3D20
This will even happen to a new account that has just been setup. =20
It seems to be happening to all the users connected to this=20
exchange server,
   not
just a select few.
   =3D20
Nadine
   =3D20 =20
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auditing unread messages

2003-09-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Hi all. Are there tools out there that would examine all the mailboxes
and count their unread messages, and if the number of unread messages in
a given mailbox is greater than a certain threshold send a warning to
the admins?

Thanks!


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Exchange COnnections 2003

2003-09-15 Thread Anthony Sollars


So who all is going to the Exchange Connections conference in Florida?

www.winconnections.com


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Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread tony
Thanks, I did try it in a lab first of all, but was with an empty
system.  What step was missed?

Exchange 2000 to 2003 - no issues.  All admin tools working, no access
denied message.
Windows 2000 to Windows 2003, issue below.  All AD steps were taken.

Any Ideas?

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Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
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Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. -
Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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Clean Mailbox feature in 5.5...

2003-09-15 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Server - Exchange 5.5 SP4 + hotfixes on Win2k SP2
Workstation - WinXP SP1

I am trying to automagically clean out my admin mailbox from my workstation,
using the Exchange Admin Console.  Due to brute force spamming, this mailbox
has over 171k NDR's in it that I don't need or want.  They were received
between 8/29 and 8/1.  After highlighting the mailbox and going to the Tools
| Clean Mailbox... option, I have selected a number of items as follows.

- Older than 5 days, based on received date.
- Both read and unread
- All Sensitivity types
- All message types
- Delete items immediately

Once started, the tool sits at 1% for a considerable amount of time and then
it's 100% finished and goes away.  The first time it ran, I got the 1010,
1012, and 1011 events in that order, but it only got rid of ~1,000 items.
On that run, I told it to delete anything older than 15 days.  I have since
run it 3 more times, incrementing the number of days down, until I am at 5.
Since the first run, it has only deleted a maximum of 7 messages at a time.
Also, when logging into the mailbox after completion, it does not reflect
any messages having been deleted.

After trying to figure out why, I came upon these two items in the KB which
seem to be completely contradictory...which one is correct?  One of them HAS
to be right...doesn't it?  Or are they both right and that's why nothings
getting deleted?  What is the difference between the Clean Mailbox tool and
the Mailbox Manager tool?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;180569
180569 - XADM: Counting Age in Clean Mailbox

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188302
188302 - XADM: Clean Mailbox Command Cannot Delete Based on Date Received

This seems to answer my question and indicate that I need to give PSS a call
for the patch:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;297686
297686 - XADM: Mailbox Manager Cleans Messages According to
PR_LAST_MODIFICATION_TIME in Service Pack 4

Additional info I've read:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305109
305109 - XADM: Exchange Server 5.5 Mailbox Manager Overview

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;258758
258758 - XADM: Understanding How and When Mailbox Manager Processes Items

TIA,

~Jim

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RE: Mailbox Manager

2003-09-15 Thread Russ Payne
The Mailbox Manager began using the Last Modified Date with SP4.  You can
add this field to your Outlook view to check it, or you can view the
properties of the message.  Every time you modify message (move it, delete
it, etc.), the timer is reset.

Russ


-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager


We are running AD and I thought of permissions too I was just unsure where
to start looking, because I am using the Service account.






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager


I was thinning maybe a permissions issue but you are probable using the 
Exchange account to login and run. But since this is a 5.5 Exchange server, 
maybe something to do with LegacyDN. Are you running AD yet.


From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:24:25 -0400

I understand, but that's why I set the time to only be 3 days...

It also is not sending any log files to my Administrator mailbox






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mailbox Manager


I think Exmerge changes the time stamp of messages. Not sure open and look
see.


From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailbox Manager
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:13:17 -0400

Anyone out there using Mailbox Manager?

I am having a little trouble with mine, I have my manager set up on a test
box. Currently it is set to audit only with these specifics:

Inbox: 3 Days
Sent Items: 3 Days
Deleted Items: 3 Days
Other Folders: 5 Days

The mailboxes on this server were imported onto it using Exmerge last
Thursday When the process runs, whether scheduled or after choosing clean
now I get
this:

Event ID: 727
Started processing mailboxes at the scheduled time of 09/15/03 09:54:50.

Event ID: 728
The Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager has completed processing
mailboxes
Started at: 09/15/03 09:54:50
Completed at:   09/15/03 09:54:50
Mailboxes processed:0
Messages moved: 0
Size of moved messages: 0.00 KB
Deleted messages:   0
Size of deleted messages:   0.00 KB.


I know there are messages in these mailboxes older than 3 days

Any ideas on if I'm missing something?

Current config
Windows 2000 SP4
Exchange Server 5.5 Sp4


TIA,
Joshua










Joshua Morgan
Senior Network Administrator
AIMCO


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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Webb, Andy
It's the assertion that doctors are more professional /because/ they
don't take benefits from the manufacturers - which is false.  Further,
if a particular piece of technology is complicated enough to require a
certification, then I'd sure prefer them to not only be certified on it,
but also to choose to use that one over another.

It's the assertion that lawyers are more professional /because/ they
don't have conflicts of interest - which is false.  The operational
definition of conflict of interest is different in the law arena in my
opinion.

It's the assertion that /any/ association with a software or hardware
manufacturer /always/ clouds your judgment and makes you an IT
unprofessional.  

I don't agree that an independent board of governance is suitable
guarantee of ethics or professionalism.  I don't believe that a vendor's
certification should be used as a measure of that either.  

Obviously there's lots more to this topic, but then that's one of the
other problems with the short paper on ethics that we're talking about.
It is too generalized to provide adequate information.

And, yes, there's certainly history in the mailing list archives.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it
looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get
paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional governing
body
and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor,
which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread John Matteson
Pardon my penny and a half's worth, but any site with connections to an
organization that has Social Responsibility in it, is nothing more
than a front for some wildly left leaning, anti-capitalist,
anti-business nest of hobgoblins.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:20 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Oh, it's the same guy all right.

http://www.infonition.com/home.shtml

And his age old arguments about how unprofessional we all are are now
here: http://www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml

Of course he's still wrong.  His counterpoint to IT people being
unethical compared to doctors and lawyers is ridiculous.  Do give
http://www.infonition.com/docs/Briefs/The%20Importance%20of%20Ethics%20i
n%20IT.pdf a read for fun.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

At only 88 pages, it doesn't seem like it would be the same guy.  He
used to have posts in this list longer than that!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Bielby
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Deckler wrote a book?!?

For those of you that remember the early days of the list, is this the
same Deckler that used to post here?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595289703/qid%3D1063417520/sr%3D
11-1
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E2k multiple domains

2003-09-15 Thread Steck, Herb
I have to be missing something and it's causing me to go bald very early in life.   
Here is what I am doing:

Single Exchange 2k Server
domain1.com has always worked

Have added new users that will be using domain2.com.  DNS records are changed and 
pointing to the same server and are working fine.

Whenever a user gets an e-mail from the outside the sender gets relaying not allowed.  
I went into the SMTP VS and added the domain2.com as granted.  Even restarted the VS 
and still get relay not allowed. 

Now I have made this work on 5.5 servers for an ISP that wanted to use Exchange for 
their users mail server, but I must be missing something in E2K to make it work right.

Any help, direction would be great.  Am sure this has been discussed before, but I 
don't have access to my archives right now.

Thanks in advance!

The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is 
addressed and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or legally privileged 
material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any 
action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the 
intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the 
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread John Matteson
So to draw a parallel to the world of doctors, you want:

A state licensing board for an IT guy/gal to call themselves an
IT guy/gal.
A state licensing board for every subspecialty of IT
(programming, systems admin, network design, network operations, mail
(Netscape), mail (Exchange), mail (isocor), etc.
A state association that you MUST may association dues to, or
face being listed not in good standing in their directory.

(repeat above for each and every state that you want to practice
your trade in, whether in person or via tele-presence).

Not for me, thanks.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Joel Wampler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:30 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except 
 for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Matt Hoffman
Hmmm.  Oddly enough, I would have figured it to be the other way round; that
any person who attempts to keep me from being able to do my job freely with
no complications was a capitalist wage-slave owner, but's that's just my
particular set of thoughts...

Matt

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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Pardon my penny and a half's worth, but any site with connections to an
organization that has Social Responsibility in it, is nothing more
than a front for some wildly left leaning, anti-capitalist,
anti-business nest of hobgoblins.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:20 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Oh, it's the same guy all right.

http://www.infonition.com/home.shtml

And his age old arguments about how unprofessional we all are are now
here: http://www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml

Of course he's still wrong.  His counterpoint to IT people being
unethical compared to doctors and lawyers is ridiculous.  Do give
http://www.infonition.com/docs/Briefs/The%20Importance%20of%20Ethics%20i
n%20IT.pdf a read for fun.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

At only 88 pages, it doesn't seem like it would be the same guy.  He
used to have posts in this list longer than that!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Bielby
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Deckler wrote a book?!?

For those of you that remember the early days of the list, is this the
same Deckler that used to post here?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595289703/qid%3D1063417520/sr%3D
11-1
/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-3211233-4840161


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Usenet newsfeeds

2003-09-15 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell
Hello all,
I would like to set up certain groups here at the hospital (most namely
sci.med.* and Microsoft.public.*, but our ISP doesn't appear to have a
news provider that allows push/pull (supernews). If anyone knows of free
newsfeeds with push/pull, let me know!

TIA,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
**Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)**

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Schorr
The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Matt Hoffman
Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking kickbacks
and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.  Doctors need
a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so
amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Winzenz
That would automatically make him unethical then as well.  He was one of
the consultants that helped migrate our mail system (not my choice to
bring in consultants).  Walked in wearing a Novell jacket and a Novell
shirt. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:12 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Schorr
gasp And how many NetWare/Groupwise seats did he force you to buy?


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

That would automatically make him unethical then as well.  He was one of
the consultants that helped migrate our mail system (not my choice to
bring in consultants).  Walked in wearing a Novell jacket and a Novell
shirt. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday,
September 15, 2003 3:12 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread tony
Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks
and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.  Doctors
need
a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so
amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of
course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Please describe the issue. 

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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.
Doctors need a code of ethics because of the nature of their
career-path; it's so amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor
(or save it, of course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Schorr
I don't know what your issue is, so I'm afraid I'd have to answer No
at the moment. :)  Perhaps you could elaborate? 


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.
Doctors need a code of ethics because of the nature of their
career-path; it's so amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor
(or save it, of course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Smith Joseph
However, if he walked in wearing a Lotus Notes shirt/jacket you COULD
question his intelligence. ;)

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


That would automatically make him unethical then as well.  He was one of
the consultants that helped migrate our mail system (not my choice to
bring in consultants).  Walked in wearing a Novell jacket and a Novell
shirt. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:12 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: tony@lantzos.net - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. - Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread tony
This one.

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Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
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Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. -
Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread tony
Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


I don't know what your issue is, so I'm afraid I'd have to answer No
at the moment. :)  Perhaps you could elaborate? 


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.
Doctors need a code of ethics because of the nature of their
career-path; it's so amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor
(or save it, of course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a 

Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread tony
I don't think I explained that right;

Everything was ok when the system was Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003.
The issue came when I Upgraded the Windows 2000 to Windows 2003.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
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Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Why don't you re-run the Exchange 2003 installation? It looks like
Windows 2003 setup over-wrote some Exchange-related stuff.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

I don't think I explained that right;

Everything was ok when the system was Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003.
The issue came when I Upgraded the Windows 2000 to Windows 2003.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
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Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. -
Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Winzenz
I would a) re-apply the Windows 2003 adminpak.msi and b) reinstall
Exchange - specifically the admin tools. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:08 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


I don't think I explained that right;

Everything was ok when the system was Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003.
The issue came when I Upgraded the Windows 2000 to Windows 2003.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. -
Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in
a lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread tony
Thanks, I have tried that, the re-install of the Windows 2003 admin made
no difference, and the re-run of Exchange 2003 setup, now comes up with
Access Denied

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov,
Andrey
Sent: 15 September 2003 22:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


Why don't you re-run the Exchange 2003 installation? It looks like
Windows 2003 setup over-wrote some Exchange-related stuff.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

I don't think I explained that right;

Everything was ok when the system was Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003.
The issue came when I Upgraded the Windows 2000 to Windows 2003.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Found word(s) list error in the Text body. -
Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ed Crowley
And you'd pay all this money just so that state board
could aggressively ignore all violations of standards
as medical boards typically do.

Ed

--- John Matteson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So to draw a parallel to the world of doctors, you
 want:
 
   A state licensing board for an IT guy/gal to call
 themselves an
 IT guy/gal.
   A state licensing board for every subspecialty of
 IT
 (programming, systems admin, network design, network
 operations, mail
 (Netscape), mail (Exchange), mail (isocor), etc.
   A state association that you MUST may association
 dues to, or
 face being listed not in good standing in their
 directory.
 
   (repeat above for each and every state that you
 want to practice
 your trade in, whether in person or via
 tele-presence).
 
 Not for me, thanks.
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joel Wampler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Posted At: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:30 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read
 that ethics thing and
 it looks like this to me
 
 if you ask 100 people on the street who is more
 professional a doctor or
 it guy, probably everyone would say doctor
 
 ergo if it people want to be considered as
 professional as doctors and
 get paid similar salaries then we need to create a
 professional
 governing body and not have silly things like
 microsoft certification
 
 that would be the equivalent of having pfizer
 certification as a
 doctor, which dont make no sense
 
 obviously there are some strong feelings about some
 past history that i
 have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a
 sound argument to
 me
 
 
  Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all
 unprofessional except 
  for me.
  
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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Re: E2k multiple domains

2003-09-15 Thread Ed Crowley
You need domain2.com in a recipient policy.

Ed

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 I have to be missing something and it's causing me
 to go bald very early in life.   Here is what I am
 doing:
 
 Single Exchange 2k Server
 domain1.com has always worked
 
 Have added new users that will be using domain2.com.
  DNS records are changed and pointing to the same
 server and are working fine.
 
 Whenever a user gets an e-mail from the outside the
 sender gets relaying not allowed.  I went into the
 SMTP VS and added the domain2.com as granted.  Even
 restarted the VS and still get relay not allowed. 
 
 Now I have made this work on 5.5 servers for an ISP
 that wanted to use Exchange for their users mail
 server, but I must be missing something in E2K to
 make it work right.
 
 Any help, direction would be great.  Am sure this
 has been discussed before, but I don't have access
 to my archives right now.
 
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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Ed Crowley
What I'd expect from an Atlanta plantation owner.

Ed

--- John Matteson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pardon my penny and a half's worth, but any site
 with connections to an
 organization that has Social Responsibility in it,
 is nothing more
 than a front for some wildly left leaning,
 anti-capitalist,
 anti-business nest of hobgoblins.
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:20 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 Oh, it's the same guy all right.
 
 http://www.infonition.com/home.shtml
 
 And his age old arguments about how unprofessional
 we all are are now
 here: http://www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml
 
 Of course he's still wrong.  His counterpoint to IT
 people being
 unethical compared to doctors and lawyers is
 ridiculous.  Do give

http://www.infonition.com/docs/Briefs/The%20Importance%20of%20Ethics%20i
 n%20IT.pdf a read for fun.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Ed Crowley
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 At only 88 pages, it doesn't seem like it would be
 the same guy.  He
 used to have posts in this list longer than that!
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Brett Bielby
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:51 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 For those of you that remember the early days of the
 list, is this the
 same Deckler that used to post here?
 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595289703/qid%3D1063417520/sr%3D
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RE: Mailbox

2003-09-15 Thread Ed Crowley
True for Exchange 5.5.

Ed

--- Finch Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep, Advanced TAB can hide it from the GAL (also
 means you can not access
 it from OWA). 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Senty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mailbox
 
 
 Hi Experts,
 sorry for my little knowledge as new to Exchange.
 Got inherited with some
 couple of  Exchange servers. I want to know if its
 possible to create a new
 mail box and hide it and if possible all the
 incoming mails can be received
 or not..
 
 Looking forward to hear from you.
 
 Senty
 
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Webb, Andy
The question is, do you have anything to contribute to the ethics/book
discussion or are you just hijacking this topic?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks
and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.  Doctors
need
a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so
amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of
course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past history that i
have no idea about but the ethics piece looks like a sound argument to
me


 Same old bag of gas.  IT consultants are all unprofessional except
for me.
 
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 

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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Webb, Andy
Sorry, this change in topic requires a new subject.  Don't post a new
question like this with an old subject line.  The people who you might
interest will ignore it and the people in that other conversation will
be a tad annoyed at your interruption.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


I don't know what your issue is, so I'm afraid I'd have to answer No
at the moment. :)  Perhaps you could elaborate? 


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.
Doctors need a code of ethics because of the nature of their
career-path; it's so amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor
(or save it, of course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent 

Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(

2003-09-15 Thread Jose Manzano
 Hello Guys,

I have a server that I want to move OWA 5.5 to but the dam thing won't
take the Exchange SP4 update :( 

   Here are the specifications on the box. 

Windows Server 2000 SP3
1 gig of ram
Dual Xeon CPU's

 Exchange 5.5 OWA installs fine to the box. It's when I go to run the
SP4 update to Exchange that the darn thing starts erroring out saying that
could not open File named

  This same Service pack install fine on my other servers :(
  
  

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RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

2003-09-15 Thread Webb, Andy
I would, at this point, then call PSS.  PSS= Microsoft Product Support
Services.  They are paid to get your system back up and running.

Seems you've exhausted the quick ideas of the free support forum.

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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

Thanks, I have tried that, the re-install of the Windows 2003 admin made
no difference, and the re-run of Exchange 2003 setup, now comes up with
Access Denied

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov,
Andrey
Sent: 15 September 2003 22:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


Why don't you re-run the Exchange 2003 installation? It looks like
Windows 2003 setup over-wrote some Exchange-related stuff.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003

I don't think I explained that right;

Everything was ok when the system was Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003.
The issue came when I Upgraded the Windows 2000 to Windows 2003.

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Sent: 15 September 2003 17:46
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Re: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003


ADUC for 2003 Server is changed when you install Exchange 2003. I think
you 
may have missed a step. Was this all done in place and not tested in a
lab.?


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Permissions problems after upgrading to Windows 2003
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:21:17 -0700



Setup;

Single DC was Windows 2000 sp4 with Exchange 2000 sp3 on Same Box- no
issues.

Upgraded to Exchange 2003 - No issues - very nice.

Upgraded box now with Windows 2000 and Exchange 2003 and now cannot
access Exchange System Manager, get error
Access is denied, Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System
Manager click ok and it quits.

Similarly, I cannot access Active Directory Users  Computers, it runs
ok but when I click on a User object or any object for that matter I
get;

Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension, Access is denied,
Facility Win32, ID No: c0070005, Exchange System Manager I click ok
then the MMC quits.

This has basically crippled the admin of the system, albeit the Exchange
system is actually functioning ok from any client.  I get the same
errors if I try to administer the domain from a client, signed on as
administrator.  Clients can log into the domain without issue.

The server allows me to do other admin functions as if the admin
usercode has the correct privilege.

Also, when I run event viewer, it will only let me see the security log,
all of the others say, access is denied.

If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate some help.  I have only
just joined the list so if it has already been discussed, could someone
please forward me the thread.

Thanks.


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Re: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
Kinda sounds like a service is not shutting down properly. Try manually 
shutting down all services for Exchange then try.

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Subject: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:18:33 -0400
 Hello Guys,

I have a server that I want to move OWA 5.5 to but the dam thing won't
take the Exchange SP4 update :(
   Here are the specifications on the box.

Windows Server 2000 SP3
1 gig of ram
Dual Xeon CPU's
 Exchange 5.5 OWA installs fine to the box. It's when I go to run the
SP4 update to Exchange that the darn thing starts erroring out saying that
could not open File named
  This same Service pack install fine on my other servers :(



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RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread tony
I completely agree with you.

I have progressed on the issue.  I deleted the administrator local
profile, now the tools work.

However, I am getting a nasty message in the event log that suggests
there is a schema problem...

Maybe Ed can look at it ?

Source EXOLEDB
Event Id 111
Microsoft Exchange OLEDB was unable to do Schema propagation on MDB
startup HRESULT = 0x80040e19

Is a Windows 2003 Server with Exchange 2003, recently upgraded from
Windows 2000  Exchange 2000...

Thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
Sent: 16 September 2003 00:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The question is, do you have anything to contribute to the ethics/book
discussion or are you just hijacking this topic?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians taking
kickbacks
and getting thousands and thousands of dollars in gift money.  Doctors
need
a code of ethics because of the nature of their career-path; it's so
amazingly easy to ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of
course).
You tell me where we have such power.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?


The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed out, is
that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt hanging in your closet
then you are automatically unethical.  Equally absurd is his assertion
that lawyers and doctors don't face the same issues -- my mother is a
medical professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice in
Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a pencil holder,
ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't have the name of some
pharmaceutical on it.

I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining hard in
downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the street with
Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  Are we to believe that a
tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii umbrella is unethical because he's
going to automatically steer all of his clients to place their
investment accounts at BankOH?

Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just an
unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of interest and
thus unable to properly represent any other product.  A ludicrous
assertion on the face of it: I make no commissions, Microsoft doesn't
know or care how often (or if at all) I recommend their products and my
MVP status is in no way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products.
Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I have a couple
of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs are often some of
Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to their faces.

The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a WordPerfect
shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens that the sales rep gave
me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw installed.  I have Symantec hats,
pens and Post-It pads...but no Symantec software currently installed.
Epson sent me some promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for
receiving literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a
new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson along with
several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.

Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact is that
some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or a free CD of demo
software just isn't going to cause me to recommend a solution that I
don't believe is the best solution.  

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics thing and
it looks like this to me

if you ask 100 people on the street who is more professional a doctor or
it guy, probably everyone would say doctor

ergo if it people want to be considered as professional as doctors and
get paid similar salaries then we need to create a professional
governing body and not have silly things like microsoft certification

that would be the equivalent of having pfizer certification as a
doctor, which dont make no sense

obviously there are some strong feelings about some past 

RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?

2003-09-15 Thread Steve Molkentin
Tony,

If you agree with Andy, then why not do something about it and CHANGE
THE SUBJECT?!

themolk. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 I completely agree with you.
 
 I have progressed on the issue.  I deleted the administrator 
 local profile, now the tools work.
 
 However, I am getting a nasty message in the event log that 
 suggests there is a schema problem...
 
 Maybe Ed can look at it ?
 
 Source EXOLEDB
 Event Id 111
 Microsoft Exchange OLEDB was unable to do Schema propagation 
 on MDB startup HRESULT = 0x80040e19
 
 Is a Windows 2003 Server with Exchange 2003, recently 
 upgraded from Windows 2000  Exchange 2000...
 
 Thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy
 Sent: 16 September 2003 00:17
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 The question is, do you have anything to contribute to the 
 ethics/book discussion or are you just hijacking this topic?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 Do any of you 2 know anything about my issue?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman
 Sent: 15 September 2003 21:26
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 Hear hear.  It's not like IT professionals are politicians 
 taking kickbacks and getting thousands and thousands of 
 dollars in gift money.  Doctors need a code of ethics because 
 of the nature of their career-path; it's so amazingly easy to 
 ruin someone's life as a doctor (or save it, of course). You 
 tell me where we have such power.
 
 Matt
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 
 The problem with Deckler's ethics argument, as Andy pointed 
 out, is that by his logic if you have Cisco golf shirt 
 hanging in your closet then you are automatically unethical.  
 Equally absurd is his assertion that lawyers and doctors 
 don't face the same issues -- my mother is a medical 
 professional; she spent 20 years in private medical practice 
 in Los Angeles and I can assure you that there was hardly a 
 pencil holder, ruler or coffee mug in her home that didn't 
 have the name of some pharmaceutical on it.
 
 I work for lawyers and I guarantee you that if it's raining 
 hard in downtown Honolulu you will see attorneys crossing the 
 street with Lexis/Nexis and Bank of Hawaii umbrellas.  
 Are we to believe that a tax attorney with a Bank of Hawaii 
 umbrella is unethical because he's going to automatically 
 steer all of his clients to place their investment accounts at BankOH?
 
 Greg believes that because I'm a Microsoft MVP that I'm just 
 an unethical front for Microsoft with a massive conflict of 
 interest and thus unable to properly represent any other 
 product.  A ludicrous assertion on the face of it: I make no 
 commissions, Microsoft doesn't know or care how often (or if 
 at all) I recommend their products and my MVP status is in no 
 way dependant upon my advocating Microsoft products. 
 Microsoft has not threatened to revoke my status because I 
 have a couple of Linux boxes down the hall. Microsoft MVPs 
 are often some of Microsoft's harshest critics; especially to 
 their faces.
 
 The fact is that despite my MVP status my firm is still a 
 WordPerfect shop.  I have a handful of very nice ProLaw pens 
 that the sales rep gave me and exactly zero seats of ProLaw 
 installed.  I have Symantec hats, pens and Post-It pads...but 
 no Symantec software currently installed. Epson sent me some 
 promotional pens and laser pointers in exchange for receiving 
 literature about their new projectors -- I haven't bought a 
 new projector in about 3 years.  If I do, I'll consider Epson 
 along with several other brands.  I'm a CNA with no NetWare installed.
 
 Maybe I am the rare IT guy with nerves of steel, but the fact 
 is that some vendor giving my knick-knacks, some initials or 
 a free CD of demo software just isn't going to cause me to 
 recommend a solution that I don't believe is the best solution.  
 
 -Ben-
 Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
 Director of Information Services
 Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
 http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Wampler
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Deckler wrote a book?!?
 
 maybe i'm missing something here, but i just read that ethics 
 thing and it looks like this to me
 
 if you ask 100 

RE: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(

2003-09-15 Thread Jose Manzano
 I tried manually stopping the IIS services but, it didn't help. Outlook Web
Access is the only exchange app installed on this box :(

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(


Kinda sounds like a service is not shutting down properly. Try manually 
shutting down all services for Exchange then try.

From: Jose Manzano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:18:33 -0400

  Hello Guys,

 I have a server that I want to move OWA 5.5 to but the dam thing won't
take the Exchange SP4 update :(

Here are the specifications on the box.

 Windows Server 2000 SP3
 1 gig of ram
 Dual Xeon CPU's

  Exchange 5.5 OWA installs fine to the box. It's when I go to run the
SP4 update to Exchange that the darn thing starts erroring out saying that
could not open File named

   This same Service pack install fine on my other servers :(



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All .COM / .NET domain names now exist

2003-09-15 Thread bscott

[My apologies for the cross-post, but this has the potential to impact just
about everybody who uses the Internet...]

  As of a little while ago (it is around 7:45 PM US Eastern on Mon 15 Sep
2003 as I write this), VeriSign added a wildcard A record to the .COM and
.NET TLD DNS zones.  The IP address returned is 64.94.110.11, which reverses
to sitefinder.verisign.com.

  What that means in plain English is that most mis-typed domain names that
would formerly have resulted in a helpful error message now results in a
VeriSign advertising opportunity.  For example, if my domain name was
somecompany.com, and somebody typed soemcompany.com by mistake, they
would get VeriSign's advertising.

  (VeriSign is a company which purchased Network Solutions, another company
which was given the task by the US government of running the .COM and .NET
top-level domains (TLDs).  VeriSign has been exploiting the Internet's DNS
infrastructure ever since.)

  This will have the immediate effect of making network trouble-shooting
much more difficult.  Before, a mis-typed domain name in an email address,
web browser, or other network configuration item would result in an obvious
error message.  You might not have known what to do about it, but at least
you knew something was wrong.  Now, though, you will have to guess.  Every
time.

  Some have pointed out that this will make an important anti-spam check
impossible.  A common anti-spam measure is to check and make sure the domain
name of the sender really exists.  (While this is easy to force, every
little bit helps.)  Since all .COM and .NET domain names now exist, that
anti-spam check is useless.

  VeriSign's commentary:

http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/implementation.pdf
http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/bestpractices.pdf

  Third-party reference:

http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/d04afc52ae9da2ee80256d9c0018be8b

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RE: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(

2003-09-15 Thread Tony Hlabse
Not sure maybe shutdown any antivirus programs running

From: Jose Manzano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:44:37 -0400
 I tried manually stopping the IIS services but, it didn't help. Outlook 
Web
Access is the only exchange app installed on this box :(

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(
Kinda sounds like a service is not shutting down properly. Try manually
shutting down all services for Exchange then try.
From: Jose Manzano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Exchange 5.5 SP4 update to OWA box wont install :(
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:18:33 -0400
  Hello Guys,

 I have a server that I want to move OWA 5.5 to but the dam thing won't
take the Exchange SP4 update :(
Here are the specifications on the box.

 Windows Server 2000 SP3
 1 gig of ram
 Dual Xeon CPU's
  Exchange 5.5 OWA installs fine to the box. It's when I go to run the
SP4 update to Exchange that the darn thing starts erroring out saying that
could not open File named
   This same Service pack install fine on my other servers :(



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Creating an automated Bulletin Board System HELP

2003-09-15 Thread Ron
I need to create an automated bulletin board system using Exchange 2000
and Outlook 2000.  It needs to be fairly automated with people being able
to subscribe and unsubscribe.  ANY direction would be appreciated.

Thank you

Ron

PS: Users are in a W2K domain.  No outside access.

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RE: Creating an automated Bulletin Board System HELP

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Schorr
Why not use Public Folders?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Creating an automated Bulletin Board System HELP

I need to create an automated bulletin board system using Exchange 2000
and Outlook 2000.  It needs to be fairly automated with people being
able to subscribe and unsubscribe.  ANY direction would be appreciated.

Thank you

Ron

PS: Users are in a W2K domain.  No outside access.

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