RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions

2002-01-03 Thread Randal, Phil

The M: drive (M for Mail) just has to be a throwback to the old
Microsoft Mail days.  Someone on the Exchange team got a little
nostalgic, perhaps?

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 03 January 2002 17:10
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Basic Exchange 2K questions
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Are there any articles out there that explain why there are such
 radical changes since Exchange 5.x - 2000?
 
 For example, maybe all of you can shed some light on 3 questions:
 
 1. In 5.x - part of the install was a performance test of the system
and all the hard drives - and it would suggest or let you specify
where the message store and log files should go.
 
 2. Why is Active Directory such a huge component of Exchange 2000
functioning?
 
 3. Why the heck does most of the data reside on a single drive by
default?  This question sort of reverts back to question #1 - 
and it just seems silly for the install process to not want to
take advantage of multiple volumes, for performance reasons.
 
 4. What's up with this M Drive?  I know it's a virtual drive, but
it's just such an odd way for storing data.  Especially when you
are trying to view the contents of the M Drive - you can only do
it inside of Explorer, or Browsing through Folders.  If you try
to expand the tree inside of the IIS Utility, it gives an error
of not being able to list all the subdirectories.  It's just plain
weird.
 
 Thank you ALL so much for your answers -
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions

2002-01-03 Thread Chris Scharff

 Are there any articles out there that explain why there are 
 such radical changes since Exchange 5.x - 2000?

Because incremental change in the High Tech industry is a death sentence.

 For example, maybe all of you can shed some light on 3 questions:
 
 1. In 5.x - part of the install was a performance test of the system
and all the hard drives - and it would suggest or let you specify
where the message store and log files should go.

This is a statement, rather than a question and a correct one at that. Not a
radical change... And one would generally hope that an admin knows where the
files ought to do, I routinely changed the performance optimizer suggestions
in 5.5 to what I really wanted them to be. When deploying a large number of
servers, there are tools one can use to automate this process.

 2. Why is Active Directory such a huge component of Exchange 2000
functioning?

Because E2K has no directory of its own.

 3. Why the heck does most of the data reside on a single drive by
default?  This question sort of reverts back to question #1 - 
and it just seems silly for the install process to not want to
take advantage of multiple volumes, for performance reasons.

Because it does. Would it be nice to have a tool to move everything around
automatically? Sure, but it's hardly the top tool on my personal wish list
for E2K.

 4. What's up with this M Drive?  I know it's a virtual drive, but
it's just such an odd way for storing data.  Especially when you
are trying to view the contents of the M Drive - you can only do
it inside of Explorer, or Browsing through Folders.  If you try
to expand the tree inside of the IIS Utility, it gives an error
of not being able to list all the subdirectories.  It's just plain
weird.

Ignore the M: drive. 99% of the things you can do through it will result in
pain and suffering. Pretend it doesn't exist.

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RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions

2002-01-03 Thread Lefkovics, William

1) Exchange2000 is 'self-tuning' (Is that Scharff laughing?).  There is no
performance optimiser, though third parties may be testing something
similar.

2) Exchange5.x uses its own directory services.  The directory database was
stored in a file called dir.edb.  Exchange2000 does not maintain its own
directory, but rather leverages the power and benefits of Active Directory.
Exchange information is now across all domain controllers and accessible
using ADSI or GUIs for AD.

3) Exchange2000 seems to believe the admin/installer is capable of assessing
drive optimisation.  Standard database and transaction log location follow
setups as they were in 5.x.

4) The M:\ drive is there for IFS.  However, I think it should not be
visible by default as this has caused more problems than benefit.  It also
may not be there in future releases.  Not many people are using IFS
correctly.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wss/wss/_es
dk_arch_win2k_ntfsifs.asp

William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Basic Exchange 2K questions


Hello,

Are there any articles out there that explain why there are such
radical changes since Exchange 5.x - 2000?

For example, maybe all of you can shed some light on 3 questions:

1. In 5.x - part of the install was a performance test of the system
   and all the hard drives - and it would suggest or let you specify
   where the message store and log files should go.

2. Why is Active Directory such a huge component of Exchange 2000
   functioning?

3. Why the heck does most of the data reside on a single drive by
   default?  This question sort of reverts back to question #1 - 
   and it just seems silly for the install process to not want to
   take advantage of multiple volumes, for performance reasons.

4. What's up with this M Drive?  I know it's a virtual drive, but
   it's just such an odd way for storing data.  Especially when you
   are trying to view the contents of the M Drive - you can only do
   it inside of Explorer, or Browsing through Folders.  If you try
   to expand the tree inside of the IIS Utility, it gives an error
   of not being able to list all the subdirectories.  It's just plain
   weird.

Thank you ALL so much for your answers -

Best Regards,

Mike



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RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Anderson

Thanks everyone for your input -

I just ordered every book under the sun for EX2K from Amazon - so
I hope once I read through all of them, I will have a deeper
understanding of how this whole thing works.

Most of the issues, is me being out of the Exchange loop for so
long, but I always admired Exchange - but was always scared off
by it's complexity.  But now, I simply cannot ignore it's
wonderful features any longer - and it's time to jump back on
the wagon once again.

I am still getting nothing but 'Access Denied' through the OWA
and am ready to bash my head into a wall soon - if I can't
get this crazy thing working soon.  Are there any articles
that cover this topic in depth?

Arghh!

Thanks -

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions


1) Exchange2000 is 'self-tuning' (Is that Scharff laughing?).  There is no
performance optimiser, though third parties may be testing something
similar.

2) Exchange5.x uses its own directory services.  The directory database was
stored in a file called dir.edb.  Exchange2000 does not maintain its own
directory, but rather leverages the power and benefits of Active Directory.
Exchange information is now across all domain controllers and accessible
using ADSI or GUIs for AD.

3) Exchange2000 seems to believe the admin/installer is capable of assessing
drive optimisation.  Standard database and transaction log location follow
setups as they were in 5.x.

4) The M:\ drive is there for IFS.  However, I think it should not be
visible by default as this has caused more problems than benefit.  It also
may not be there in future releases.  Not many people are using IFS
correctly.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wss/wss/_es
dk_arch_win2k_ntfsifs.asp

William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Basic Exchange 2K questions


Hello,

Are there any articles out there that explain why there are such
radical changes since Exchange 5.x - 2000?

For example, maybe all of you can shed some light on 3 questions:

1. In 5.x - part of the install was a performance test of the system
   and all the hard drives - and it would suggest or let you specify
   where the message store and log files should go.

2. Why is Active Directory such a huge component of Exchange 2000
   functioning?

3. Why the heck does most of the data reside on a single drive by
   default?  This question sort of reverts back to question #1 -
   and it just seems silly for the install process to not want to
   take advantage of multiple volumes, for performance reasons.

4. What's up with this M Drive?  I know it's a virtual drive, but
   it's just such an odd way for storing data.  Especially when you
   are trying to view the contents of the M Drive - you can only do
   it inside of Explorer, or Browsing through Folders.  If you try
   to expand the tree inside of the IIS Utility, it gives an error
   of not being able to list all the subdirectories.  It's just plain
   weird.

Thank you ALL so much for your answers -

Best Regards,

Mike



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RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions

2002-01-03 Thread Lefkovics, William

Several of the people here have written or contributed to those books.  This
forum will compliment your reading.

William

-Original Message-
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions


Thanks everyone for your input -

I just ordered every book under the sun for EX2K from Amazon - so
I hope once I read through all of them, I will have a deeper
understanding of how this whole thing works.

Most of the issues, is me being out of the Exchange loop for so
long, but I always admired Exchange - but was always scared off
by it's complexity.  But now, I simply cannot ignore it's
wonderful features any longer - and it's time to jump back on
the wagon once again.

I am still getting nothing but 'Access Denied' through the OWA
and am ready to bash my head into a wall soon - if I can't
get this crazy thing working soon.  Are there any articles
that cover this topic in depth?

Arghh!

Thanks -

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Basic Exchange 2K questions


1) Exchange2000 is 'self-tuning' (Is that Scharff laughing?).  There is no
performance optimiser, though third parties may be testing something
similar.

2) Exchange5.x uses its own directory services.  The directory database was
stored in a file called dir.edb.  Exchange2000 does not maintain its own
directory, but rather leverages the power and benefits of Active Directory.
Exchange information is now across all domain controllers and accessible
using ADSI or GUIs for AD.

3) Exchange2000 seems to believe the admin/installer is capable of assessing
drive optimisation.  Standard database and transaction log location follow
setups as they were in 5.x.

4) The M:\ drive is there for IFS.  However, I think it should not be
visible by default as this has caused more problems than benefit.  It also
may not be there in future releases.  Not many people are using IFS
correctly.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wss/wss/_es
dk_arch_win2k_ntfsifs.asp

William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
---
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http://www.airborne.net
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Basic Exchange 2K questions


Hello,

Are there any articles out there that explain why there are such
radical changes since Exchange 5.x - 2000?

For example, maybe all of you can shed some light on 3 questions:

1. In 5.x - part of the install was a performance test of the system
   and all the hard drives - and it would suggest or let you specify
   where the message store and log files should go.

2. Why is Active Directory such a huge component of Exchange 2000
   functioning?

3. Why the heck does most of the data reside on a single drive by
   default?  This question sort of reverts back to question #1 -
   and it just seems silly for the install process to not want to
   take advantage of multiple volumes, for performance reasons.

4. What's up with this M Drive?  I know it's a virtual drive, but
   it's just such an odd way for storing data.  Especially when you
   are trying to view the contents of the M Drive - you can only do
   it inside of Explorer, or Browsing through Folders.  If you try
   to expand the tree inside of the IIS Utility, it gives an error
   of not being able to list all the subdirectories.  It's just plain
   weird.

Thank you ALL so much for your answers -

Best Regards,

Mike


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