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I was curious because we're currently using Omtool's MetaMessage on our Blackberrys, which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine, so it's quite useful when on the road. Goodlink sounds interesting, but it would be a harder sell if we lose that ability to print. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server haven't thought about it and have not had to try yet... you'd have to have a user who would carry and additional cable to plug into the unit, then into a printer(no IR on the 957)... I almost see no point to needing to print from it...but my guy's have not asked for it yet.. when their on the road they dont worry much about printing with it...it's just key they have their info but interesting idea... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise
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??? Ok I looked on Omtools site...I cant find MetaMessage, would this be part of their fax solution? which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine so what does it do? just forward to a fax machine number? so if a person was at say a clients location: I would have to ask the client for a fax number then put fax number in and the Omtool would forward my message on my BB to the clients fax machine? right? in my case I guess I could: do a similar...I could have a user forward the e-mail with attachment to a fax number(say from their contacts OR manually input the number)...since Ive got faxiantion it would convert the attachment and fax to the said number My disadvantage right now is the Good software does NOT have a TIF viewer...so my guy's cant read/view their incoming faxes... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I was curious because we're currently using Omtool's MetaMessage on our Blackberrys, which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine, so it's quite useful when on the road. Goodlink sounds interesting, but it would be a harder sell if we lose that ability to print. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server haven't thought about it and have not had to try yet... you'd have to have a user who would carry and additional cable to plug into the unit, then into a printer(no IR on the 957)... I almost see no point to needing to print from it...but my guy's have not asked for it yet.. when their on the road they dont worry much about printing with it...it's just key they have their info but interesting idea... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426
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I'm sorry, I was getting my venders crossed. It's Onset that makes MetaMessage, and you can find them at http://www.onsettechnology.com. If you want to print an attachment with it you just have to provide the fax number for it to go to. The MetaMessage server then faxes the attachment, in our case, through Omtool's Legalfax, although it can interface with all sorts of fax gateways. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server ??? Ok I looked on Omtools site...I cant find MetaMessage, would this be part of their fax solution? which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine so what does it do? just forward to a fax machine number? so if a person was at say a clients location: I would have to ask the client for a fax number then put fax number in and the Omtool would forward my message on my BB to the clients fax machine? right? in my case I guess I could: do a similar...I could have a user forward the e-mail with attachment to a fax number(say from their contacts OR manually input the number)...since Ive got faxiantion it would convert the attachment and fax to the said number My disadvantage right now is the Good software does NOT have a TIF viewer...so my guy's cant read/view their incoming faxes... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I was curious because we're currently using Omtool's MetaMessage on our Blackberrys, which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine, so it's quite useful when on the road. Goodlink sounds interesting, but it would be a harder sell if we lose that ability to print. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server haven't thought about it and have not had to try yet... you'd have to have a user who would carry and additional cable to plug into the unit, then into a printer(no IR on the 957)... I almost see no point to needing to print from it...but my guy's have not asked for it yet.. when their on the road they dont worry much about printing with it...it's just key they have their info but interesting idea... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM
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very cool thanks thought Im not sure it would work in the Good, since good appears to overwrite the BB units software with their own soft.. bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I'm sorry, I was getting my venders crossed. It's Onset that makes MetaMessage, and you can find them at http://www.onsettechnology.com. If you want to print an attachment with it you just have to provide the fax number for it to go to. The MetaMessage server then faxes the attachment, in our case, through Omtool's Legalfax, although it can interface with all sorts of fax gateways. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server ??? Ok I looked on Omtools site...I cant find MetaMessage, would this be part of their fax solution? which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine so what does it do? just forward to a fax machine number? so if a person was at say a clients location: I would have to ask the client for a fax number then put fax number in and the Omtool would forward my message on my BB to the clients fax machine? right? in my case I guess I could: do a similar...I could have a user forward the e-mail with attachment to a fax number(say from their contacts OR manually input the number)...since Ive got faxiantion it would convert the attachment and fax to the said number My disadvantage right now is the Good software does NOT have a TIF viewer...so my guy's cant read/view their incoming faxes... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I was curious because we're currently using Omtool's MetaMessage on our Blackberrys, which allows printing attachments to any nearby fax machine, so it's quite useful when on the road. Goodlink sounds interesting, but it would be a harder sell if we lose that ability to print. -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server haven't thought about it and have not had to try yet... you'd have to have a user who would carry and additional cable to plug into the unit, then into a printer(no IR on the 957)... I almost see no point to needing to print from it...but my guy's have not asked for it yet.. when their on the road they dont worry much about printing with it...it's just key they have their info but interesting idea... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users
RE: New Blackberry Server
I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I certainly cant confirm this, but there would have to be some kind of connector for Exchange server for them to talk to each other. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes. 3.5 still needs an exchange mailbox to connect to, but in reality you can setup one bes (3.5 allows for multiple bes services to run on a single server which means you can cram more users on a single bes) and have different users from different exchange sites on that one bes. The old version (2.1 and below) you needed to install exchange add-ins (which added the blackberry tab to a mailbox) so it was site specific. 3.5 and above, you do not need to do that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I certainly cant confirm this, but there would have to be some kind of connector for Exchange server for them to talk to each other. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Ahhh. Gotcha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Yes. 3.5 still needs an exchange mailbox to connect to, but in reality you can setup one bes (3.5 allows for multiple bes services to run on a single server which means you can cram more users on a single bes) and have different users from different exchange sites on that one bes. The old version (2.1 and below) you needed to install exchange add-ins (which added the blackberry tab to a mailbox) so it was site specific. 3.5 and above, you do not need to do that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I certainly cant confirm this, but there would have to be some kind of connector for Exchange server for them to talk to each other. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Yes. 3.5 still needs an exchange mailbox to connect to, but in reality you can setup one bes (3.5 allows for multiple bes services to run on a single server which means you can cram more users on a single bes) and have different users from different exchange sites on that one bes. The old version (2.1 and below) you needed to install exchange add-ins (which added the blackberry tab to a mailbox) so it was site specific. 3.5 and above, you do not need to do that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I certainly cant confirm this, but there would have to be some kind of connector for Exchange server for them to talk to each other. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Blackberry Server
You need to create a MAPI profile for a mailbox that has the necessary admin permissions to all of the mailboxes on any particular server. We just installed it here and so far it works grand - and I know nothing about Blackberry's. All administration is now done via the BB Admin GUI. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Shoot that I don't remember. I set the old one up over a year ago. For this install all I did was run the setup on the new server that I wanted to put it on. I used the user account that I created for Blackberry. Also if your doing this type of install, you need to name the Blackberry server (not the actual server but the name of the Blackberry server/routing group your installing, you'll see what I mean when you set it up) the same as the old server that it was on. So if you open the admin console and open the routing group you will see the name of the BES server. That's the server name I am talking about. If you name it properly all the user accounts will magically appear in the new routing group when you create it and you don't have to migrate anything. If you are just upgrading the install should be pretty simple. I haven't upgraded before but I can't imagine it being difficult with all the pertinent information there all ready. One thing that bit me that you want to make sure of is the HRP auth code. You need to make sure the services are off on the first server before you start on the second because once you start the new server's services both servers will send a signal to blackberry and they will shut your code off and mail will not travel to or from the units. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
I just installed the new version and it is nice. One question for the folks already on it. I have Mobile Data Services enabled for the server and my users, but the RIM 957 doesn't want to connect to anything via Blackberry Browser. Also I can't find squat about anything to do with viewing the GAL remotely. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
What version of the OS are running on the 957? I think you need to be running the 2.5 or higher. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions I just installed the new version and it is nice. One question for the folks already on it. I have Mobile Data Services enabled for the server and my users, but the RIM 957 doesn't want to connect to anything via Blackberry Browser. Also I can't find squat about anything to do with viewing the GAL remotely. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: New Blackberry Server
That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: New Blackberry Server
It sounds like your intellisync properties are screwed up. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives
RE: New Blackberry Server
If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: New Blackberry Server
Good link server? -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject
RE: New Blackberry Server
What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday
Re: New Blackberry Server
Personal what? - Original Message - From: Pennell, Ronald B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does
RE: New Blackberry Server
As far as I know you can't get it. If you use Outlook 2002 you can migrate it into your contacts list and then you can get them. You can however get access to your .pst files so if you put anything in your offline contacts you can get to them. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From
RE: New Blackberry Server
I would just open intellisync and make sure everything is checked off. Also when you first go into intellisync there are a few check boxes at the top make sure you have all of those checked as well. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Any recommendations as to how I should have it setup? What do I need to change? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server It sounds like your intellisync properties are screwed up. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled
RE: New Blackberry Server
I've got the same settings as you without any issues, so no. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Any recommendations as to how I should have it setup? What do I need to change? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server It sounds like your intellisync properties are screwed up. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work with the client manager and enterprise server? 1. Initially, we setup the Enterprise server and made it's connection with out Exchange 2000 site. Loaded the management tools and regristered the BB, and sync'd them up with exchange. This downloaded Inbox messages. 2. When connecting the BB via the desktop manager, the BB only receives any new email messages that arrive in the exchange inbox from that point. From what I have been told, if I want to receive any unread messages in my BB, I'd have to forward them to myself. 3. Deleting messages from the BB or Outlook don't sync up. If I delete a message on the BB, it should delete from my inbox folder. Any info you can send my way? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent
RE: New Blackberry Server
Interesting... Looks like they reverse engineered the RIM stuff and are trying to compete. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Since we have started this Blackberry discussion can I ask some questions dealing with my BB 6710 and how it is suspose to work
RE: New Blackberry Server
I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old messages. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL
RE: New Blackberry Server
the GAL is on their list of enhancements to be... Jst remember to add your grip to the list -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Install the desktop redirector on your client PC and set up the redirector rules as you want them. You can also use the craddle to sync the old
RE: New Blackberry Server
There was a poster a short while back that claimed someone tried MMIS but canned the project in favor of BB. They did not expand on why. -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK, thanks. I can sort this out on my own but if anyone already knows, what I am curious about is how the MMIS vs BB purchase/implementation decision would be made now. I view MMIS as a potential alternative to BB whereas before MMIS there was not a MS alternative I am aware of. Is BB still (a)/an (preferred) option or has MS closed the gap here? tia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Charles, We are currently looking into this. The nice thing about BB is it is an end to end system. MMIS is more flexible in the devices you can use, but you have to enter your own agreements for air time. I may be over simplifying this a bit. Dennis -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server How, if at all, does MMIS figure into fulfilling the business requirement that BB fills/filled? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Have installed the desktop redirector, set redirector rules as follows: Redirect incoming messages to users handheld. Under filter settings, I forward all To BCC and CC to the handheld. Checked forward messages to the handheld. Under advanced, I have folder redirection to inbox only. Under Intellisync, I have sync now setup to reconcile email and sync PIM. Under Configure email, I have sync moves and deletes and handheld wins. I put BB in cradle and have reconcile email and sysnc PIM auto-started. Only get any new incoming email from that point. Ron
RE: New Blackberry Server
If it is installed with Exchange 2000, does it extend the Active Directory schema? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Yes. 3.5 still needs an exchange mailbox to connect to, but in reality you can setup one bes (3.5 allows for multiple bes services to run on a single server which means you can cram more users on a single bes) and have different users from different exchange sites on that one bes. The old version (2.1 and below) you needed to install exchange add-ins (which added the blackberry tab to a mailbox) so it was site specific. 3.5 and above, you do not need to do that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I certainly cant confirm this, but there would have to be some kind of connector for Exchange server for them to talk to each other. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server On the older version, didn't you have to select an exchange server during the installation? This version you don't have to correct? You should be able to setup this new version in a central installation point and add users from multiple remote sites. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I just installed 3.5 about 3 weeeks ago. Its pretty much the same thing as the older version. Are you putting this on a new server or upgrading the current one? Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Sr. Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions I would expect that is still the case. I'm actually waiting on upgrade pricing for it right now. IIRC, 3.5 (the new version) offers remote address book support - which is a huge benefit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Blackberry Server Does anyone know how the newest Blackberry server works? I know with the older version you had to tie the server to an exchange server. Is that the case with the latest release? Does anybody care? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Blackberry Server
that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit
RE: New Blackberry Server
thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread
RE: New Blackberry Server
once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From
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Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync
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The handheld running GL dumps the oldest messages first to keep with in the units memory. They stay on the server. --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books? If you are not using any client desktop manager for your BB, then you are connecting via the Lan directly to the exchange servers, verses, connecting to Outlook on the desktop. So what you are saying is that all I actually need is the Enterprise Software (which I have from BB). Regrister the clients PIM number on the servers side and it will stayed sync'd? Ron -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server If you have the BB server why would you sync with a cradle? I run the Good link server for my BB 957 users and once it's setup nobody has to cradle it sync's real time... OK I do have to cradle for software/firm updates to the 957 or charge it...but thats it bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server OK. How does sync into the unit suspose to work? When a user places his BB in the cradle it should auto sync with his Outlook (or exchange mailbox. So how does a users get all his unread mail? Ron -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server That's the way it works - you don't get old mail forwarded to it, you can only sync it into the unit. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server
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haven't thought about it and have not had to try yet... you'd have to have a user who would carry and additional cable to plug into the unit, then into a printer(no IR on the 957)... I almost see no point to needing to print from it...but my guy's have not asked for it yet.. when their on the road they dont worry much about printing with it...it's just key they have their info but interesting idea... bill -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Does Goodlink provide any printing capabilities for handhelds? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server once your user try it you will never get it out of their hands it's too cool and very addictive ..I'm glad I don't carry one anymore id be on it all the time -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server thanks for the quick answer, that's what I needed to know, I am thinking about trying to sell this as a BB alternative, just need to think some more. Jeff -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server that's a good Q so far my experience has been that the fact the the new 957's are 8MB doesnt matter. My users are set to 50MB limit on their Exch-MB. Ive found most of the space used is attachments, the attachmnet is NOT downloaded to the 957 until the user selects it, then the system downloads the attachment to the 957, it looks like in pieces too.. also if you do have say multiple folders under inbox you must tell the device to sync them (if you want) SO I have NOT had a space issues on the unit yet..though I guess if a user had huge attachment it might be a problem, then again the download time would stink... For my sales guy's the sync with their inbox and contacts is critical, everything else is nice to have... -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Question, as we are a BlackBerry site, and I just saw this wonderful Goodlink. If it is a mirror sync, what happens to mail after the device gets to 8meg's? Can you set a folder to not be synced, so the users could move mail to that folder to keep for archive? Not that I wouldn't love to have the users stay at 8meg's on the store, but I know the users that are using these here, and that would never happen. Thanks Jeff -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server I have to agree with that. We signed up with Cingular running BBE 2.5 to start with and it works fine, but after seeing Goodlink on the handhelds along with the free upgrade to Gl 1.5 we haven't looked back. Goodlink is one sweet platform. 100% sync every ware. My only gripe is that it does not sync a copy of the GAL to the handheld, you have to copy users into your personal contacts list. Miles --- Miles Holt Network Engineer Summit Marketing Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 --- Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock. - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server Sorry just curious about the BB server. Yes with Good technologies Server, it talks directly to my exchange server for the users, The Good server then goes out to Good's main server which is connected to the Mobitex network. So yes my users have a direct extension of their outlook/exchange account right on their 957, real time. Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Task, Todo 100% sync. No Drafts, Delete Items. So my users Never have to cradle. Note: I don't allow my users Personal Address Books, PST's... (why would you really need them?), keep it all in Contacts on the exchange server etc At the time we looked into this the BB server enterprise(1.5) could not do all this, Im not sure but I dont think even the new ver. of the BB server does all this yet... For curiosity you can find it at www.good.com the service provider is Cingular... my sales guy love it to death bill -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Blackberry Server What about access to Personal Address Books
