RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Virus in latin cannot be 'virii' because it is a neuter noun of the 2nd declension. The stem Virus in latin is 'vir' not 'viri'. 2nd declension neuter plurals end in 'a' so the plural of Virus in latin 'vira'. 'Alias' in latin is an adverb meaning 'at other times' which is derived from the adjective 'alius' meaning 'another of many'. 'Alii' can be either the nominative masculine plural of 'alius' or the generative masuline singular of 'alius' There is no interchangability except as mentioned above. This is all taken from the Lewis and Short latin dictionary, 1879 edition (1955 impression). Peter -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday 19 November 2001 00:00 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson If alias was a Latin word the plural would not be alii. While alias has a Latin derivation it is not a latin word as such. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elizabeth Farrell Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson Tom, vir = is interchangeable with viri except when you specifically want to imply multiples. There is no such word in Latin as alii. So (altho' not sure, I would say that alias is not derived from the Latin meaning the same) No-one was insisting on using anything. You are the first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
If alias was a Latin word the plural would not be alii. While alias has a Latin derivation it is not a latin word as such. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elizabeth Farrell Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson Tom, vir = is interchangeable with viri except when you specifically want to imply multiples. There is no such word in Latin as alii. So (altho' not sure, I would say that alias is not derived from the Latin meaning the same) No-one was insisting on using anything. You are the first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Well I would have been right were virus a Latin word. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elizabeth Farrell Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?
('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...
and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh
Thomas somebody-or-other.
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip
-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Tom,
Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii.
Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri
is proper Latin.
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
In English, the multiple is Viruses.
So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
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Actually I think it is Virii
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amateur grammar police
Get the virus's what?
Oh, you mean viruses.
/amateur grammar police
:-)
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Cecil Adams...who he?
URL is down.
Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti
Regards
E.
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Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?
('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...
and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh
Thomas somebody-or-other.
Regards
E.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Tom,
Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii.
Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri
is proper Latin.
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
In English, the multiple is Viruses.
So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
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Actually I think it is Virii
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amateur grammar police
Get the virus's what?
Oh, you mean viruses.
/amateur grammar police
:-)
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson
did you mean: http://www.straightdope.com/
You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :)
E.
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Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?
('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...
and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh
Thomas somebody-or-other.
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip
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Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Tom,
Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii.
Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri
is proper Latin.
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
In English, the multiple is Viruses.
So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
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Actually I think it is Virii
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amateur grammar police
Get the virus's what?
Oh, you mean viruses.
/amateur grammar police
:-)
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Elizabeth Farrell wrote: You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :) Spell cheque dew knot work write. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
If I were to say viri, viruses, virus's, virii, virusus or bugs how many people intelligent enough to read this list would not know what I was talking about??? SB -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
And you can extend that too interchanging they're, their, and there, and their likely two figure it out, to. It may push some of they're pet peeve buttons, though. -Original Message- From: STEVE BROOK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:04 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson If I were to say viri, viruses, virus's, virii, virusus or bugs how many people intelligent enough to read this list would not know what I was talking about??? SB -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Tom, vir = is interchangeable with viri except when you specifically want to imply multiples. There is no such word in Latin as alii. So (altho' not sure, I would say that alias is not derived from the Latin meaning the same) No-one was insisting on using anything. You are the first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Computer Weekly in the UK published this gem a few weeks back. A senior editor from Bristol Classical Press, inspired by his fallible spell checker, wrote: Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea Eye strike a quay and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong or write It shows me strait a weigh. Throw that at your speech recognition software! Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 14:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Elizabeth Farrell wrote: You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :) Spell cheque dew knot work write. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
curse these fingers!! The correct URL is www.straightdope.com.
(geez.. you ever notice that OL2k's Message Recall doesn't work on this
list? Maybe Tener could find out why..)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Cecil Adams...who he?
URL is down.
Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?
('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...
and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh
Thomas somebody-or-other.
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Tom,
Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii.
Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri
is proper Latin.
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
In English, the multiple is Viruses.
So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
Actually I think it is Virii
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
amateur grammar police
Get the virus's what?
Oh, you mean viruses.
/amateur grammar police
:-)
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson
I think message recall worked for me once before. Although I'm not 100%
sure. I was quite drunk and I don't remember so clearly. I think I was
able to recall a message after those pink monkeys stopped running around and
before somebody started shooting defeathered chicken.
S.
-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
curse these fingers!! The correct URL is www.straightdope.com.
(geez.. you ever notice that OL2k's Message Recall doesn't work on this
list? Maybe Tener could find out why..)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Cecil Adams...who he?
URL is down.
Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?
('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...
and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh
Thomas somebody-or-other.
Regards
E.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Tom,
Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii.
Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri
is proper Latin.
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
In English, the multiple is Viruses.
So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
Actually I think it is Virii
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
amateur grammar police
Get the virus's what?
Oh, you mean viruses.
/amateur grammar police
:-)
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Shouldn't that be: -- well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia. From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago! -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
stop it Stop It STOP IT! -Original Message- From: QUINN, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson Shouldn't that be: -- well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia. From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago! -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 14:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ _ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
that sentence now reads as as seen in Cicero, Ovid and of the garlic But never mind Chris, I filled in a crossword puzzle the other day that Virgil was Grecian. Now where are the dunces hats? :) E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson Shouldn't that be: -- well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia. From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago! -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Latin Lesson
Can we borrow yours? -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson that sentence now reads as as seen in Cicero, Ovid and of the garlic But never mind Chris, I filled in a crossword puzzle the other day that Virgil was Grecian. Now where are the dunces hats? :) E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson Shouldn't that be: -- well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia. From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago! -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson While we're picking nits. vir = man viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin had become a solely academic language. Ob Exchange Topic: I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using viruses when speaking English. At least that is well-known, well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii. :) -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: OT - Latin Lesson Actually Ed, you're a little out .., Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who had doings with Homer. (Bart...!) Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth. (Just like this list!) This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how the word virus made it into the English language... and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the widespread phenomenon we know and love today. References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh Thomas somebody-or-other. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson As was the 'u' before the 'ii'. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Tom, Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last read Latin. If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on: http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson Alumnus. Alumni. NOT Alumnuii. Incubus. Incubi. NOT Incubuii. Virus. Viri. NOT Viruii. NOT virii. Viruses is proper English. Viri is proper Latin. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii In English, the multiple is Viruses. So you are both right as well as pedantic :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! Actually I think it is Virii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! amateur grammar police Get the virus's what? Oh, you mean viruses. /amateur grammar police :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
