Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt;bhi-erc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I didn't even know what a core CAL
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Actually, its not WINS/DNS. Its routing.
Many VPN clients don't use straight routing, they shim the IP stack and
intercept packets on their way to the routing engine (Cisco is a prime
example
: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Ah...but that's okay. I'm already at Win2k or XP on all my
clients and
servers. The upgrade to SP3 from Win2k SP2 is free.
And it's possible that I did misread the previous statement.
But going
[mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Yes I can connect to the vpn and read email from the exchange server. I
can find the exchange server if I look for it through search for
computers on network. We use lmhost
Yes I have wins set up on the ras server.
-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:allan;teaminfo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
OK confusion and headache aside from trying to visualize your environment
from
: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Ah...but that's okay. I'm already at Win2k or XP on all my
clients and
servers. The upgrade to SP3 from Win2k SP2 is free.
And it's possible that I did misread the previous statement
I never heard of one. What's the approx cost?
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt;bhi-erc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I didn't even know what a core CAL was, until you posted it.
I've
URL?
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt;bhi-erc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I didn't even know what a core CAL was, until you posted it.
I've found it on the MS web site, but can
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
URL?
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt;bhi-erc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I didn't even know what a core CAL was, until you
That's pretty cool. I wish it covered SQL as well.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Haxton [mailto:RHaxton;suretel.net]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
The core CAL has replaced the BackOffice CAL.
http
That's what IAS (Internet Authentication Server/Service) does. It's
part of Win2K Server and above.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: 30 October 2002 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Is there a way
Cisco ACS integrates with AD
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: 30 October 2002 17:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Is there a way to use RADIUS in conjunction with Active Directory? I mean, having to
maintain
: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
That would only be required to use all the functionality. You'll be
able to use OL11 against your Linux-based mail server if you want.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
Sent
Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Would you like me to give you an example?
we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange
servers from all
over the world, from
I think it starts with 135.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does anyone know what port I would have to open on my sonic wall to let
people browse
offers a good explanation of Netbios
over TCP with NAT also many links to trouble shooting he same.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does anyone know
: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Would you like me to give you an example?
we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exchange
servers from all
over the world
You may as well just take out the firewall if this is what you want to do.
And no, im not joking.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does anyone know what
Wait a second. I read this wrong.
Why cant your users browse the network over the VPN and what does the FW
have to do with it?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
You may as well
-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone;superioraccess.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
You may as well just take out the firewall if this is what you want to
do.
And no, im not joking.
-Original Message-
From
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
640 Megs ought to be enough for anyone.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com]
Posted At: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:24 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: VPN breaks Outlook
Subject: RE: VPN breaks
-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Drew Nicholson
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Well, first you go buy a copy of Exchange 5.5 Enterprise (is that even
possible anymore?)
Then, you go to here: http://www.swinc.com/resource
:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does anyone know what port I would have to open on my sonic wall to let
people browse the network over the vpn. If i bypass my firewall at home
i can search for computers on my the network but if i dont i cannot find
any computers
would appreciate it.
thanks
rich
ps sorry for hijacking this thread.
-Original Message-
From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:byron;markettools.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does the vpn work in general from behind
What the heck are you talking about?
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Yes I can connect to the vpn and read email from the exchange server. I can
find
This is easy
Shut down your firewall, your proxy and run a straight T1 into the building.
Thanks
Russell
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook . Now: Mongo
or what
to do i would appreciate it.
thanks
rich
ps sorry for hijacking this thread.
-Original Message-
From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:byron;markettools.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Does the vpn work in general from
and students and
there is no off topic subjects as long as it involves an MS product in some
way.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener;midship.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Yes I can connect to the vpn
Meow
-Original Message-
From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:byron;markettools.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I'm sorry, I'm not following you, but would like to help. Have the cat who
built the vpn contact me off-line
HOSTS is *so* last millennium...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Ely, Don
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Neither, use WINS and DNS, works every time
: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
So let me ask you question, I could never figure it out.
I have pptp setup on a windows nt server that is my pdc. We
use this to
connect to our exchange server which is a bdc. If i connect to the my
server over the vpn and dont use the lmhost file I cannot
, October 29, 2002 6:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
90% of the time I have seen this in regards to E55 in an NT4
domain it has
to do with the remote PC not being passed the WINS server info.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener
;techsanctuary.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
First match WINS?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
If however, you are using Netbios
it up. The only thing I am sure
about anymore is that college-aged girls are starting to call me Sir.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I
Well the other 10% is lUser error.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Only 90% of the time
That happens to me too now. Dont depress me further . . .
- Original Message -
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I think its still the same in W2k as well - an h-node
I guess your solutions are pretty narrow.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Maybe for you... I provide solutions which do not require such primitive
things
the short name of our Exchange server?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
No there aren't. There are times in which its easier than doing
So is WINS, just nobody has told Microsoft yet.
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org]
Posted At: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 02:55 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: VPN breaks Outlook
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
the WINS and DNS portion of
the lookups, but can not find this article any more.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:davida;vss.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I think its still the same in W2k as well
, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
For WinNT 4.0 in H-node - Q142309 Q119493 is a good article describing the
different node types.
NetBIOS name cache
WINS server - 3 queries 1.5 second timeout
users...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I guess your solutions are pretty narrow.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely
How do they connect? VPN, Direct Dial??
Are these users POPing their email?
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Would you like me to give you
. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Would you like me to give you
Put a static entry in their local WINS server?
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: 30 October 2002 15:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Would you like me to give you an example?
we are a hosting company. Customers
I'd add the domain name to their DNS suffix search order.
--
Chris Scharff
EMS Sales Engineer
MessageOne
512.652.4500 x-244
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN
I thought Andrey was suggesting HOSTS not LMHosts.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Seeing as Outlook
Gee, I feel for you guys... really...
/snort
-Original Message-
From: CHRIS H [mailto:NTPRO;WOH.RR.COM]
Posted At: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:06 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: VPN breaks Outlook
Subject: Re: VPN breaks Outlook
That happens to me too now
Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I'd add the domain name to their DNS suffix search order.
--
Chris Scharff
EMS Sales Engineer
MessageOne
512.652.4500 x-244
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:12 AM
MAPI across the Internet. Please no flames. There is no VPN that would be universal
enough for all kinds of customers.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Either one seems illogical... That's what DNS servers are for...
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I thought Andrey was suggesting HOSTS
Would be acceptable for some, but many of them don't even have a WINS server.
-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:Keith.Hanna;trw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Put a static entry in their local WINS
Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Seeing as Outlook does a wonderful job of using DNS as its first line of
name resolution, I'd suggest a DNS entry.
I'd be willing to wager that other
]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I thought Andrey was suggesting HOSTS not LMHosts.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent
They don't have to have their own DNS, if you're the service provider,
provide them DNS...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
OK, I agree, but some
[mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
OK, I agree, but some of them don't even have their own DNS.
Then what? - the common denominator that would fit all
customers is the HOSTS file.
-Original
I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS server would
fit your needs quite well...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
MAPI
All right, if you say so. You are smarter than me. Congrats.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Either one seems illogical... That's what DNS servers
: VPN breaks Outlook
Either one seems illogical... That's what DNS servers are for...
-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I thought Andrey
They have their own ISPs.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
How are they getting to the Internet then? Publish a host in your domain
]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS
server would fit your needs quite well...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com
, GA
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Check with Mi8 or Intermedia. They use HOSTS file too (not LMhosts)
I think Mi8 has a special
I am not their ISP.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
They don't have to have their own DNS, if you're the service provider,
provide them DNS
on the
users machines.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
OK, I agree, but some of them don't even have their own DNS.
Then what? - the common
Thanks I will take a look at that. Never played with RADIUS before.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I would disagree with that... A VPN solution
I don't want to publish the back-end Exchange servers in DNS for all the hackers to
see.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
How are they getting
Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS
server would
fit your needs quite well...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM
Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Seeing as Outlook does a wonderful job of using DNS as its
first line of name resolution, I'd suggest a DNS entry
. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
They have their own ISPs
-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I can seee some instances where the support costs related to helping Windows
95 users install and configure VPN might make an ASP
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS
server would
fit your needs quite well...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13 AM
I am the one that has to deal with 10-20% and listen to their b!tching.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I believe he meant that they couldn't
Who do you use?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Frankly, I consider that piss-poor engineering. I guess that's part of why
I've never heard
I understand. I'd rather not publish the info.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
So what? You still own your domain.
For instance, set up a DNS
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
All right, if you say so. You are smarter than me. Congrats.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Either
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the
services??? Maybe I'm just being blind, but I would think
one would want to provide a more secure solution. Of course,
added costs go with that solution, but one would apply those
A port scan of an IP range will tell them more than enough with or without
DNS entries.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I don't want
Whether or not you publish the info is a moot point. All someone has to do
is know your IP Block...
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I
[mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
RADIUS is just another authentication database - specifically geared towards
remote access. Most ISPs use either it or TACACS if they are all Cisco
Yeah... That's too bad really...
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
When your goal is to sell as many seats as possible @ $9.95 each, you cut
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Our premise is that we allow all customers to use MAPI Outlook. No one wants
to only use OWA or POP3 or IMAP. They want all the (collaboration) features
of Exchange/Outlook as per Microsoft's promotional materials. If they only
needed to be able
[mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
A port scan of an IP range will tell them more than enough
with or without
DNS entries.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov
Been like this for 2 years now.
Of course I always look for ways to make it better and safer.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
When your goal
Not at all you socialist bastard. ;)
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Yeah... That's too bad really...
-Original Message-
From
- Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Who do you use?
-Original Message-
From: Roger
Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Is there a way to use RADIUS in conjunction with Active
Directory? I mean, having to maintain another database is
overhead, plus one would have to teach
;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I'm not discounting the fact that they want the collaborative
features, I'm
merely saying that security should be a part of those
features. That's
just me though
It's a tough market.
-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
I'm not discounting the fact that they want the collaborative features, I'm
merely saying
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From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: 30 October 2002 17:22 pm
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Been like this for 2 years now.
Of course I always look for ways to make it better and safer.
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Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
We also allow Mapi across the internet, but with VPN systems for those
customers who are willing to pay for the added security.
Some customers have even requested got non HTTPS OWA access, where
their password is sent in clear text !!
Yours,
Julian Stone
We do that, our VPN runs against radius and that gets its authentication from AD
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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Yeah. I think its called IAS
besides, if you have your DNS servers configured properly, it's harder to
get that info than doing a port scan.
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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
, but then if I invest in
VPN technologies it would be a waste of money.
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From: Julian Stone [mailto:julian.stone;netstore.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
We also allow Mapi across the internet
.
At least off the cuff anyway.
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From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Do you offer one universal VPN to all customers or do they
get a VPN
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Do you offer one universal VPN to all customers or do they
get a VPN that best matches their client capabilities? Do
they set up their own PCs to use VPN or do you provide
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Hypothetically, if Microsoft came out with new technology that would make
MAPI obsolete (something like front-end/back-end OWA with all the features
of Outlook), would you then toss out the VPN and stop charging customers for
it?
I am still
Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Hypothetically, if Microsoft came out with new technology
that would make MAPI obsolete (something like
front-end/back-end OWA with all
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Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Multiple VPN can get ugly. Most clients can't handle it.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
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From
Has it been announced?
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook
Something like MAPI over http as announced for Outlook 11? Maybe, but given
the large
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