: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
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: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. van
Ouwerkerk
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
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Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. van
Ouwerkerk
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
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Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word
, March 22, 2003 11:12 AM
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Closing the loop, Buddy was of course in the Herbie, the Love Bug
movie.
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From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No, it's The Fabulous Bud-E-Luv. Check him out at:
www.budeluv.com/
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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
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All the ladies know me
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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
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All the ladies know me as Buddy Love.
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Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and
S***. Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that
is beyond me :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
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From: Chris Scharff
Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and
S***. Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that
is beyond me :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
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Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
To prevent others from reading their policy they didn't put it on the place
where they say it is.. smart move if you want to do business..
B.
At 08:08 22-03-2003 +0100, you wrote:
Not
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless annoyance.
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
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Of course it is - what's to stop me
12:35 PM
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Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
annoyance.
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
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Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Tullis
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I think the following
offends you, lighten up, get a life and move on.
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From: Tim Tullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I think the following disclaimer says it all:
DISCLAIMER: The information
welcome :)
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
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From
Excellnetconsider it stolen g...
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Sent to me by a co-worker:
DISCLAIMER:
This Email message does not reflect the thoughts
See then, that's OK - we agree :)
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 17:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
annoyance
Of course we do.
Besides which, I don't enjoy being publicly flogged. Agreeing with you is the best
way to avoid that.
Darcy
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waiting for it to be in private?! :)
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From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 23:16
To: Exchange Discussions
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Of course
. ;-)
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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waiting for it to be in private?! :)
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Hmmm. Maybe the SPAM-filter people have it all wrong, and what they
should really be doing is pattern-matching on variations of this is not
an unsolicited e-mail
Opting-In on some exciting offers for herbal viagra in Pittsburgh
Jim Helfer
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I should probably butchering all of my massages too, so they be thinkink I
not have an IQ above 68 too?
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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If you get a lawyer
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:58 AM
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If you get a lawyer out of the office and talking like a human being, (I
did this once) you get really interesting information.
Like one told me once that if you create a website with all borrowed
to be me, but I
never me if it isn't.
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet
I hereby claim or disclaim that I am stupid.
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley
:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
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From: [EMAIL
, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..
But to clarify.
Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a citation to item under
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
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Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spelling) are enforceable
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers
: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spelling) are enforceable by law. You
could, I imagine
, Bill
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
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I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake round up. Where they capture as many rattlesnakes and then
kill them. Couldn't we have something like that for lawyers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
That used to happen out around Brothers, in Eastern Oregon. I think though
that they may have had to phase that out due to the PETA folks. Note, I
don't think there is a similar protective organization for lawyers...
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From: Christopher
of HIPAA.
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA
Wickieup AZ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
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From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58
Yes everything I write is protected, but then if you copy it, I disavow it
and its yours.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I figure there's that town
, June 07, 2002 2:07 PM
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't remember seeing anything in HIPAA that requires a disclaimer.
(Although I did say in an earlier email, that we'd do it, too, because of
HIPAA.) Actually, we'll do it but encrypt anything with PHI in it.
Eric, I
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:11 PM
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't think it would hold up either I'm just doing what the security
director in charge of the hippa implementation wants.
The idea of posting to the list
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I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..
But to clarify.
Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a citation to item under
copywrite. You show, very plainly
Only after we've dealt with all the list trolls.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 19:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers
If you mean HIPAA, would you care to quote the parts about disclaimers?
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 20:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails
The idea of you constantly referring to hippa doesn't make me happy.
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 22:11
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I don't think it would hold up either I'm just doing what
07, 2002 23:20
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There is another reason for disclaimers that include things like if you are
not the intended recipient. Forwarding. I questioned the head of our
legal department on the need for a disclaimer, and he said that it is
primarily
: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:57 PM
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I'm still fighting the battle of we don't need no stinkin' disclaimers. So
far, I've won.
BTW, has anybody ever heard if those disclaimers actually hold up
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I'm still fighting the battle of we don't need no stinkin' disclaimers.
So far, I've won.
BTW, has anybody ever heard if those disclaimers actually hold up in court?
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr
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From: Woodruff
: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emaildisclaimers.com/
There are several reasons why you might decide to add disclaimers to your
e-mails. The reasons can be categorized into two groups: legal and marketing
reasons.
1. Legal
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I lost... They said it gives them a good foundation to any lawsuit.
Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications Inc.
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility
614.543.6405
[EMAIL PROTECTED
Search Google if you are that desperate for a case scenario to prove your point and/or
not.
I would try e-mail disclaimer, court case and American :) as points of reference.
E.
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From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
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Alright, alright. There. Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass
by adding personalmail in the body somewhere. Are you happy?
Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord
Just my 2cents
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/apply.html
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: stupid disclaimers
I think I might just start blocking messages with
see how fast your company
fires you, even if you had a disclaimer.
Serdar Soysal
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From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emaildisclaimers.com
Prezactly. I'm not going to agree to keep a message written on a postcard
confidential.
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From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:27 PM
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This is BS. If you are dealing
: Thursday, June 06, 2002 16:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
http://www.emaildisclaimers.com/
There are several reasons why you might decide to add disclaimers to your
e-mails. The reasons can be categorized into two groups: legal and marketing
reasons.
1. Legal reasons
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:08 PM
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Do you think her data was right?
I tend to think that the law of bailments applies to all e-mail and
probably trumps other legal arguments. I don't think you can
: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Do you think her data was right?
I tend to think that the law of bailments applies to all e-mail and probably
trumps other legal arguments. I don't think you can become a bailee by
force of someone else's
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Just like the disclaimer that comes on 50% of the Spam I get that says
that this is not an unsolicited e-mail.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this. Like it
actually performs some kind of function.
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I think I might
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Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this. Like it
actually performs some kind of function.
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute action?
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From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I'm taking action on your message. I'm
The printing does
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From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute action?
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if it's a litmus test
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From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute action?
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: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:31 PM
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Do think this was my design? Our lawyers think we need this.
Like it actually performs some kind of function.
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From
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personalmail
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From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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if it's a litmus test
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From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it
right now. Nyah
nyah nyah nyah nyah.
Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from J.D.'s 'R' Us.
--
be - MOS
Noone ever built a statue to a critic
I used Exclaimer and configured it to exclude mail to this list from
getting
our disclaimer.
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: stupid disclaimers
I think I might just
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
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It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm apparently breaking the law now
by clarifying why I'll no longer
)
Jim Blunt
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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Alright, alright. There. Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass
by adding personalmail in the body somewhere. Are you happy?
Michael Woodruff
System Administrator
inChord Communications
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