On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 20:46, Michael Adams wrote:
> I am making a guess that we are talking home use here?
>
> With todays modern hard disks, space is quite cheap (under $5US/Gbyte). How
> about a three version install. (4-6GB each and 2 /home partitions on a 40GB
> no problems). With jpg's, mp3
I am making a guess that we are talking home use here?
With todays modern hard disks, space is quite cheap (under $5US/Gbyte). How
about a three version install. (4-6GB each and 2 /home partitions on a 40GB
no problems). With jpg's, mp3's, ogg's etc on a seperate disk or backed up to
CD-R. You
>> This is probably a difficult ask. But what I would like to see
>> is a longer time between versions (eg. 12+ months) for the regular
>> desktop edition, and a simple, reliable method for updating
>> packages in the meantime for those who want to (for all those
>> things that don't qualify for M
eally expecting all this to happen, but at least I have
got it off my chest.
Brian.
From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:44:32 -0700
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34P
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 17:12 -0600, Vox wrote:
>
> Since it seems like comparisons with debian are in vogue lately in
> the mdk community, here goes another one :)
>
> cooker = unstable
> mandrake linux = testing
> corporate server = stable
>
> With cooker you are in the bleeding ed
This time civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
becomes daring and writes:
> On Friday 07 February 2003 10:10 am, Franki wrote:
>> I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???
>>
>> I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...
>>
>
> You have done that, by
On Friday 07 February 2003 10:10 am, Franki wrote:
> I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???
>
> I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...
>
You have done that, by trying out Mandrake's offerings. The most stable are
chosen and put together
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:10 +0800, Franki wrote:
> I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???
Yes, read the announcement.
> I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...
> See basically, I don't need wizards and GUI stuff for the most part..
It'
On Friday 07 February 2003 01:44 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:34 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > > The announcement is available at
> > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:34 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>
> > The announcement is available at
> > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2409
> > (Beware of line breaks!)
> >
> > More information
n Behalf Of Vincent Danen
Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2003 1:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:
> I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
> that as such had no
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 07:22:34PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
> > the URL handy at the moment.
>
> May I help:
>
> The announcement is available at
> http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:44 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
>
> There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
> the URL handy at the moment.
May I help:
The announcement is available at
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2409
(Beware of lin
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:
> I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
> that as such had no obligations to be a server..
Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a
server OS. The support timeframe will likely
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 23:23, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:13, civileme wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> > > > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
> > > > reguar
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:13, civileme wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> > > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
> > > reguardiing expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 22:26, walt wrote:
> The one thing that draws me to Mandrake is the fact that it is more
> geared toward the desktop. I truly believe that the future of linux
> depends on getting the common person to use it instead of windows and
> most people use a desktop and do not have a
gt; The only way to really get that now it seems.. is to use stable debian..
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin
> Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:34 PM
> To: [
The one thing that draws me to Mandrake is the fact that it is more
geared toward the desktop. I truly believe that the future of linux
depends on getting the common person to use it instead of windows and
most people use a desktop and do not have a server. As far as I am
concerned Mandrake makes a
>> As sad as it is to me,, I will probably swap to redhat or debian
>> for servers
>> in future, because a reload every 18 months is alittle to much
>> for me.. we
>> have 20 servers in our system.. and thats alot of work, not to
>> mention that
>> I have setup many small business's with mandrake 8
work just fine under 7.2.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
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From: "Mark Chou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:44
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
>>
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> I think the end of life stuff sucks. Yes, it's inevitable,
>> but it still
>> sucks. I for one haven't upgraded my 7.2 server (other than applying
&g
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Chou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: [expert] Mandrake RPM updat
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
> > reguardiing expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than
> > what most people expect for manufactured product
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 10:23:55AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > So if this part of the support is going to continue there really isn't
> > > any need to panic?
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll take a stab at it. Will
> > MandrakeSecure continue to publish advisories? Yes. Will adv
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 07:27:23AM -0500, et wrote:
[...]
> I would like to see a "free support" and a "paid for support level that is
> extended, but that seems to be what they tried to do... support th "server
> series" longer than the "desktop" series. that said, I firmly believe the
> powerp
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 12:30:34AM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote:
My responses on this thread will be brief. I invite everyone to read
the thread that was on the discuss mailing list; archives are here:
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/discuss/2003-02/
[...]
> > Visit http://www.mandrakesecure.
ECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 06 February 2003 03:38 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
>> > > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
>> >
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 10:46 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > So if this part of the support is going to continue there really isn't
> > any need to panic?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll take a stab at it. Will
> MandrakeSecure continue to publish advisories? Yes. Will advisories
> conti
On Thursday 06 February 2003 03:38 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
> > reguardiing expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than
> > what most people expect for manufactured products
On Thursday 06 February 2003 03:38 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> > I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
> > reguardiing expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than
> > what most people expect for manufactured products
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:15, et wrote:
> I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing reguardiing
> expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than what most people
> expect for manufactured products, but this is the way of things, and even
> more so with computers,
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 12:12, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Feb 05, 2003 at 06:44:05PM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> > > > Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> > > > supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> > > > laptops with my 9.1 distro?
Win95 was released in the fall of 94 in Korea... which is where I was
when it came out.
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 04:24, et wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:05 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > Great. after september 30 this year
On Wed Feb 05, 2003 at 08:23:57PM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > That's what MandrakeSecure, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
> > list, updates for newer distribs, are all for.
> >
> > Put it this way: Subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you should
> > already be subscribed if you care about security any
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 8:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> That's what MandrakeSecure, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
> list, updates for newer distribs, are all for.
>
> Put it this way: Subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you should
> already be subscribed if you care about security anyways)... you wi
On Wed Feb 05, 2003 at 06:44:05PM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> > > supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> > > laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wouldn't be a problem if I could manage
> > > to get sof
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 6:24 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Feb 05, 2003 at 01:03:42AM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> > supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> > laptops with my 9.1 distro? It w
On Wed Feb 05, 2003 at 01:03:42AM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wouldn't be a problem if I could manage
> to get software that
half Of et
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:15 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
>>
>>
>> I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing
>> reguardiing
>> expected support cycles,
I have noticed that Redhat, and M$ has lately published listing reguardiing
expected support cycles, and all of them are shorter than what most people
expect for manufactured products, but this is the way of things, and even
more so with computers, since the hardware is planned to be obsolete in
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of et
Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 8:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:05 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Great. after september 3
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:05 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> > supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> > laptops with my 9.1 distro? It woul
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:05:59AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
: > Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
: > supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
: > laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wo
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
> supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
> laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wouldn't be a problem if I could manage
> to get software that would la
Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single
supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new
laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wouldn't be a problem if I could manage
to get software that would last as long as my hardware... well... let's
see 8 years on Win95 ..
Jack,
If I were to install a linux firewall appliance today, I'd probably go with
LEAF/LRP, or firewalls such as smoothwall, coyote, etc. However, 2+ years
ago, when I embarked on this, I believe 2.4 kernels started penetrating the
major distros, and one of the draws was stateful packet inspectio
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Good afternoon, Mark...
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 03:44 pm, Mark Chou wrote:
> What do most of you do to keep your machines up to date with necessary
> features and security updates? Do you pretty much re-pave each time for a
> newer MDK distro,
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 15:44, Mark Chou wrote:
> Now that Mandrake has announced their product end-of-life policy
> (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3), I really need a
> sustainable upgrade strategy. I've always struggled with rpm updates,
> basically downloadling source rpms an
Now that Mandrake has announced their product end-of-life policy
(http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3), I really need a
sustainable upgrade strategy. I've always struggled with rpm updates,
basically downloadling source rpms and building them myself. Mandrake
package dependencies
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