Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Scott
Mike- Thanks for the correction. I agree, Open Source is wonderful. I would like to share with the group a personal experience at my work with Open Source vs. Something else. When I got there the company was running a web site using ASP on NT. Hundreds of lines of code to do email forms! T

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread mandrake
Interesting conversation, so here's my $.02. I work for a small ISP. We're migrating from Windows to Linux (don't blame me for the NT, I'm moving us to Linux as fast as I can...) and I've played with RedHat and Mandrake. (I very breifly played with OpenBSD, but the install was over my head a

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Al Baker
With enough time and effort, you can cutomized just about any distribution to act as a powerful server, even with a fancy desktop on it! Though, I must admit, I am as intriguied as the next system administrator about running FreeBSD. -Al --- "J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Mike MacCana
It's been a good discussion. I just thought I might point out your not really using the term `commercial' correctly [many Open Source folk don't]. The opposite of Open Source is closed source. The opposite of commerical is non-commercial. Mandrake is a commercial Open Source OS - the commerce

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Scott Parks
Thank you for your thoughts and thank you to everyone who has responded. I have to look at a couple of things. First off, Debian seems to shy away from any commercial products, I have been told that is why KDE is not included, you can install it, but it is not part of it. If I were to go wit

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2000.12.19 Scott Parks wrote: > > A guy who works for me tells me that Mandrake can not cut it when it comes to > production web work and he favors, very strongly, Debian. Telling me that it > is the strongest for production environments. I have been using Mandrake for > several years an

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Mike MacCana
If you're looking for case studies of high traffic sites, both MS Hotmail and Persian Kitty [the biggest sites in their respective categories or webmail and porn] primarily use FreeBSD. Yahoo [biggest search engine] uses FreeBSD for its front end, but is now powered by google, a clustered Li

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Pj
I hate to say this but the ISP's I know in the midwestern US run FreeBSD or Unix. I've been on one provider several years; his only planned downtime is hardware upgrades. It's the best connection in four-states and he runs FreeBSD.. Pj Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe t

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Mike MacCana
Hmmn. Performance is likely to be pretty much the same for both distributions. Open Source software installation is much easier on Debian [packages are downloaded and pdependencies worked out automatically]. Closed source aps [which you might have a need of] are generally more available for RP

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Bug Hunter
I've heard that FreeBSD is less prone to problems in a production environment also. However, we run RedHat 6.2 24/7 and have very few problems. On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Laurent Duperval wrote: > On 19 Dec, Scott Parks wrote: > > Anyone have some thoughts on this issue? The machines are dual P3

Re: [expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Laurent Duperval
On 19 Dec, Scott Parks wrote: > Anyone have some thoughts on this issue? The machines are dual P3's with 18 > gig drives in arrays, 2 gigs ram each. Multiple machines behind Cisco Local > Director. Mandrake installs fine on each box, Debian is a bit more > bothersome to configure, but I can

[expert] Mandrake in production

2000-12-19 Thread Scott Parks
Hi all, I do not want to start a Holy War or anything of that nature. I am looking for honest success stories on using Mandrake in a production web environment for web hosting and postgres for serving the php pages. My professional experience has been with BSDI, FreeBSD, Solaris and NT for h