Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:00, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:13 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. I'm going to have to admit that I agree with Jack here. I stopped using Linuxconf around the time of RH5.2 for this very reason. It was a nice training tool. In that it taught me a lot about repairs but hardly a learning system I would ever recommend. Webmin I've been a fan of since around the time of MDK 7.0 (I started my switch from RH to MDK around the time of MDK 6.x) and the Drake Family of tools have become a very real and very reliable set of tools. The most important thing is that they actually modify the real set of config files not a psuedo set. (ala e-smith, or some of the firewall distro's) Nor like some of the tools in another distro that try to think for me. They follow the philosophy of C. Yes you can mess something up. But in doing so, you can also use the tools to undo it as well. James Ok, I'll check it out. But just a quick question - is there an entry for Webmin on any of the popup menus? I've figured out how to start Webmin, but only by going to the Webmin web site. There doesn't seem to be much documentation included in the Mandrake distribution. I checked under Configuration, and some other places, but there's no entry like there is for the CUPS www admin tool. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:47, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:24 am, Timothy Brown wrote: After you get it started now go to your browser and go to https://localhost:1 make sur you have https Right, I know how to access it manually. I was just wondering if I missed a K-menu entry to start a browser with that URL. No big deal if there isn't - I can add one or use a bookmark. I suppose you could put a icon on the desktop to go to URL but since it isn't an application but rather a web application and it is host/ip dependent it's more hassle and more likely to break things than to enable them. Although there are cheats and shortcuts, as soon as you do it and set it up to open on Konqueror people will be complaining that they want firebird mozilla or some other browser. IMHO it's a a conflict avoidance tactic. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 14:52, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: snip What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Webmin works well with Mandrake9.2 as well, making ease of adding static routes, sub interfaces, etc it far superior to Linuxconf Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
I really wish it still worked becasue while I do know enough to not use it. It just makes life easier Tim Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
-Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Linuxconf
Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
lol :) Tango Echo wrote: Lol, ok... Guess I should be dispelling my impression that the Red Hat community support group consists of flames and RTFMs. Huh, must've been my experiences on Dalnet. -Original Message- From: Timothy Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf Well I long time ago I used it but for the last few years I have been using Mandrake I have used 8.2-9.2 Tim Tango Echo wrote: -Original Message- From: Charlie M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linuxconf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim Flame? Why would anyone do that? Just out of curiosity Tim, are you coming from Red Hat ? ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:57, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:29 am, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: Now I'll have to beat the Sparenberg drum - this clearly deserves a bug report. I can't do it yet, since I've just ordered my 9.2 boxed set, and don't have 9.2 installed on any systems. A bug report probably will get ignored because I don't think there is anybody really maintaining this package for Mandrake since it was moved to contrib, that is, unless you'd like to volunteer. Contrib packages are packaged by volunteers and contributed. They are not maintained by MandrakeSoft, so a bug report is useless unless there is somebody that is going to fix linuxconf to work with Mandrake. I'd also like to point out that it was dropped for a good reason, which is that it is Evil Incarnate(TM). The problem with Linuxconf is that it maintains its own config and pushes those to the actual config when it gets around to it. This means you can make changes to the real config files which will be ignored and clobbered by the next Linuxconf run. If you want a pointy-clicky config interface and you don't like DrakConf, use Webmin -- it doesn't have that problem. It's also better at handling complex config than DrakConf. DrakConf is very good at things like X, but I agree that its network config is... questionable. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Driving around up and down Division Street, I used to like it here -- just bums me out to remember. Can't you do anything nice? I think I'm going to make the same mistake twice. -- punch and judy from either/or by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:13:35 -0500 Timothy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is linuxconf in M9.2 It was moved to contrib and as such is not included on the cds. Add a contrib source and urpmi linuxconf Charles -- Chaos is King and Magic is loose in the world. - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 17 November 2003 9:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim broken deprecated (??? I'm not certain of this, yet) contrib Flame? Why would anyone do that? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 09:20:43 up 15:18, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 People need good lies. There are too many bad ones. -- Bokonon, Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uPXwG11CaRuZZSIRAv5vAKCSPadWHqFugZJ5WvuUCK3SAMJlDACgrU74 VVcpR7D6ul+tUH4qk3B/bOI= =nrys -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
Any idea what happened to the GTK GUI? Paul On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linuxconf
On Monday 17 November 2003 10:40 pm, Glenn Burkhardt wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 12:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 11:13 am, Timothy Brown wrote: List, Please don't flame me. But where is linuxconf in M9.2 Tim It's moved to contrib, but be careful, it is really quite broken in 9.2, especially as related to Network stuff. ^^ What a horrible shame! It's really the only front end for a lot of network configuration. What are the problems? I didn't find any bug reports on Cooker Bugzilla or bugs.mandrakelinux.com, or discussions in the mailing list for the last 3 months... Mandrake has completely changed it's network configuration files from what linuxconf expects. So everything gets borked if you try to use it. If you want to use it, you have a lot of work to do to make sure the right stuff is installed and the config files are in the right place. Unfortunately, if you know enough to fix it, you know enough to not need it. For networking configuration, try the drakconnect applet in Mandrake Control Center. Fortunately, that applet is much better now and makes netconf unnecessary IMO. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LinuxConf
I haven't had problems with linuxconf because I haven't been using it - because I dislike the ncurses interface. What ever happened to the gtk-based interface? I used to do linuxconf and get the nice gui but now all I get is the ugly (doesn't display well at all for some reason) text-based interface. On Friday 15 June 2001 10:56, you wrote: Has anyone tried to use LinuxConf on LM8 to try and configure anything on your machine and find it does not work? For example, I always used LinuxConf to set up my ppp connections--now they simply will not dial. If I use the DrakConf tool I can connect. Since I am doing multi-link and kppp does not seem to have that option I need to use LinuxConf. Same with nic setup, no go under LC, but using DrakConf works ok. Any thoughts? -Scott
Re: [expert] LinuxConf
On Friday 15 June 2001 10:56 am, Scott may or may not have written: Has anyone tried to use LinuxConf on LM8 to try and configure anything on your machine and find it does not work? For example, I always used LinuxConf to set up my ppp connections--now they simply will not dial. If I use the DrakConf tool I can connect. Since I am doing multi-link and kppp does not seem to have that option I need to use LinuxConf. Same with nic setup, no go under LC, but using DrakConf works ok. I had this same experience with networking; linuxconf would not work, drakxconf does. Hoyt
Re: [expert] linuxconf over ssh
Franki wrote: Hi all, If I run linuxconf in console mode over ssh,, it works fine,, however, how do I get to the accept, dismiss and help buttons at the bottom of it?? I can wander around and change settings, but I can select accept/dismiss to activate any changes I made.. any help would be most appreciated. many thanks Frank Hauptle It sounds to me like you're in 640 x 480 mode, which KDE and Gnome both have trouble handling. The buttons you want are below the bottom of the screen. I would suggest exiting X-Windows and using xf86config set your computer into 800 x 600 mode, or pressing Ctrl-Alt-Plus (use the plus on the keypad) to put you into a better graphic mode. Hope this helps. Alex
Re: [expert] linuxconf over ssh
the tab key will move you to the buttons. On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Franki wrote: Hi all, If I run linuxconf in console mode over ssh,, it works fine,, however, how do I get to the accept, dismiss and help buttons at the bottom of it?? I can wander around and change settings, but I can select accept/dismiss to activate any changes I made.. any help would be most appreciated. many thanks Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions.
Re: [expert] LinuxConf of DrakConf is not working properly
On 2/11/01 1:58 AM, "Kuldeep Shah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps someone can assist me on this problem which i am facing with LM 7.2 Linuxconf in DrakConf is not working properly. After clicking on LinuxConf - System Configuration in DrakConf, i am getting a dialog box which is having three tabs (Config, Control, Status). In Config tab after clicking on Networking i am getting another dialog box. On clicking any item (in client tasks or in server tasks or in Misc) in this dialog box, all the dialog boxes of Linuxconf are used to disappear. Exit your X Window session and try running #linuxconf from the console. Si.
Re: [expert] linuxconf problem
Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have upgraded my linuxconf to the latest version. I used to be able to run it from my ssh connection, but now I get the following error: [root /home/brian] linuxconf Error message from remadmin :Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to mrroboto.mindspring.com:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). It looks like it want to be run in X. Does the newer version not support console? what does 'echo $DISPLAY' say? rc
RE: [expert] linuxconf problem
That didn't work, here is the output (I am logged into this machine from ssh already, if that helps any) [root /home/brian] xhost + X connection to mrroboto.mindspring.com:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] linuxconf problem It happened once to me also, and the work-around I found to fix the problem is to type this heart-broken command : xhost + En rponse Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [root /home/brian] echo $DISPLAY mrroboto.mindspring.com:10.0 Brian -Original Message- From: Rusty Carruth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] linuxconf problem Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have upgraded my linuxconf to the latest version. I used to be able to run it from my ssh connection, but now I get the following error: [root /home/brian] linuxconf Error message from remadmin :Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to mrroboto.mindspring.com:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). It looks like it want to be run in X. Does the newer version not support console? what does 'echo $DISPLAY' say? rc
Re: [expert] Linuxconf update
On Friday 12 January 2001 23:50, you wrote: No. I downloaded the linuxconf rpm's (from sunsite mirror) and checked them with rpm -K and they checked OK. Install went fine too. However, I only use update to tell me if there are updates, then I go get them, ftp them into my updates directory, check them with -K, and install them after ogling (rpm -qipl). That process worked fine for me. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: Hi all: Has any one had problems with the new Linuxconf update. I tried to download it from several sites and had Mandrakeupdate tell me either it was unsigned or that it was not properly signed, or my Gnupg was improperly installed. At any rate it would not install even if I tried to force it. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7 Tom: I have reinstalled the Mandrake GPG key it is the one I had. I tried all my ftp programs and have to the conclusion that they are corrupted. In trying to download the linuxconf file which is some 1.8 mb I was only able to get about a max of 300 k. the same for linuxconf devel. This was the same for all my ftp programs, including konqueror and Nutscape, it did not seem to matter which update site I was at also, I tried a good dozen. So on my end I am statisfied that I do not have a problem, but that the problem lies in a corrupt file or two on the update ftp sites. I guess that I will have to wait for someone at Mandrake to notice this. Thanks for all your help. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7
Re: [expert] Linuxconf update
I checked the update listing and there's only a .1 upgrade available for Linuxconf. Is that little of a change a needed update? What is the update for anyhow? On Sunday 14 January 2001 06:52 am, you wrote: Look on http://www.linux-manrake.com/en/updates for their security update key. Install that one in gpg and see what rpm -K gives you for the linuxconf rpms. I got the linuxconf files from sunsite, so if you got them from there, they should be ok. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: On Friday 12 January 2001 23:50, you wrote: No. I downloaded the linuxconf rpm's (from sunsite mirror) and checked them with rpm -K and they checked OK. Install went fine too. However, I only use update to tell me if there are updates, then I go get them, ftp them into my updates directory, check them with -K, and install them after ogling (rpm -qipl). That process worked fine for me. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: Hi all: Has any one had problems with the new Linuxconf update. I tried to download it from several sites and had Mandrakeupdate tell me either it was unsigned or that it was not properly signed, or my Gnupg was improperly installed. At any rate it would not install even if I tried to force it. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7 Tom: I have reinstalled the Mandrake GPG key it is the one I had. I tried all my ftp programs and have to the conclusion that they are corrupted. In trying to download the linuxconf file which is some 1.8 mb I was only able to get about a max of 300 k. the same for linuxconf devel. This was the same for all my ftp programs, including konqueror and Nutscape, it did not seem to matter which update site I was at also, I tried a good dozen. So on my end I am statisfied that I do not have a problem, but that the problem lies in a corrupt file or two on the update ftp sites. I guess that I will have to wait for someone at Mandrake to notice this. Thanks for all your help. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7 -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [expert] Linuxconf update
On Friday 12 January 2001 23:50, you wrote: No. I downloaded the linuxconf rpm's (from sunsite mirror) and checked them with rpm -K and they checked OK. Install went fine too. However, I only use update to tell me if there are updates, then I go get them, ftp them into my updates directory, check them with -K, and install them after ogling (rpm -qipl). That process worked fine for me. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: Hi all: Has any one had problems with the new Linuxconf update. I tried to download it from several sites and had Mandrakeupdate tell me either it was unsigned or that it was not properly signed, or my Gnupg was improperly installed. At any rate it would not install even if I tried to force it. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7 Tom: Downloaded the Linuxconf rpm's using kbear from the sunsite mirror and did the rpm -K thing all came back with md5 GPG NOT OK. This is very strange, I have tried three times with Mandrakeupdate from three different sites, now with K bear and a different site all with the same results. Could this be a problem with my GPG install even though seems to be working with K-Mail the same as it has from the start. Could it have become corroupted with my last update to KDE2 beta of 20010109? -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7
Re: [expert] Linuxconf update
You need to get the key file off your cd or download from a trusted site and gpg --import keyfilename while logged in as the user who is going to do rpm -K. I have both root and my username set up with the imported key. Then you will get a gpg ok. Also look at mandrake updates web page for a pointer to their security key for the updates. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: On Friday 12 January 2001 23:50, you wrote: No. I downloaded the linuxconf rpm's (from sunsite mirror) and checked them with rpm -K and they checked OK. Install went fine too. However, I only use update to tell me if there are updates, then I go get them, ftp them into my updates directory, check them with -K, and install them after ogling (rpm -qipl). That process worked fine for me. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: Hi all: Has any one had problems with the new Linuxconf update. I tried to download it from several sites and had Mandrakeupdate tell me either it was unsigned or that it was not properly signed, or my Gnupg was improperly installed. At any rate it would not install even if I tried to force it. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7 Tom: Downloaded the Linuxconf rpm's using kbear from the sunsite mirror and did the rpm -K thing all came back with md5 GPG NOT OK. This is very strange, I have tried three times with Mandrakeupdate from three different sites, now with K bear and a different site all with the same results. Could this be a problem with my GPG install even though seems to be working with K-Mail the same as it has from the start. Could it have become corroupted with my last update to KDE2 beta of 20010109? -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7
Re: [expert] Linuxconf update
No. I downloaded the linuxconf rpm's (from sunsite mirror) and checked them with rpm -K and they checked OK. Install went fine too. However, I only use update to tell me if there are updates, then I go get them, ftp them into my updates directory, check them with -K, and install them after ogling (rpm -qipl). That process worked fine for me. Tom Berkley "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote: Hi all: Has any one had problems with the new Linuxconf update. I tried to download it from several sites and had Mandrakeupdate tell me either it was unsigned or that it was not properly signed, or my Gnupg was improperly installed. At any rate it would not install even if I tried to force it. -- Ralph F. De Witt MBA It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = 6426 1CFF 0987 9D51 76D6 06BC F22A CFF4 559A 03E7
Re: [expert] linuxconf-1.21r5-5mdk.i586.rpm requires libgd.so.1
** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:34:11 Gmt +0200 I have recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 [Macmillan]. Then I ran the updates utility, and all want well until I came to the update for linuxconf-r5-5mdk.rpm. It requires a file named libgd.so.1 which is not on my system. Where can I locate this file? Do need to be concerned with any version numbers here? If this question is better suited to the newbie list, please ignor with my appologies, Head over to www.rpmfind.net and search for libgd.so.1. You should find a recent Mandrake package there you can use. Any dependencies or conflicts will be found and you will be notified by RPM when you install the package. John LeMay Jr. Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC, LLC.
Re: [expert] linuxconf-1.21r5-5mdk.i586.rpm requires libgd.so.1
Hi, The "gd-1.8.1-4mdk.i586.rpm" on the 7.2 install cd worked fine for me. Hope this helps. Dan "John J. LeMay Jr." wrote: ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:34:11 Gmt +0200 I have recently installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 [Macmillan]. Then I ran the updates utility, and all want well until I came to the update for linuxconf-r5-5mdk.rpm. It requires a file named libgd.so.1 which is not on my system. Where can I locate this file? Do need to be concerned with any version numbers here? If this question is better suited to the newbie list, please ignor with my appologies, Head over to www.rpmfind.net and search for libgd.so.1. You should find a recent Mandrake package there you can use. Any dependencies or conflicts will be found and you will be notified by RPM when you install the package. John LeMay Jr. Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC, LLC.
Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem
SSL'ing webmin on LM (7.1 at least) does not require you to compile openssl from source. There was a guide on it recently at mandrakeuser.org Buchan Cecil Watson wrote: Where: webmin.com/webmin What: Like Linuxconf, Webmin allows you to configure Linux and various software that you may have installed. Webmin works via any browser w/ or w/o SSL. http://plainmail.com/linux/secure.html Jeff Malka wrote: Anyway, the Mandrake gurus might want to check to see if Linuxconf still has this bug, and if so report it to the authors of Linuxconf. I've never liked Linuxconf, and will probably kill it off and put webmin on or continue to administer my system the old fashioned way, with emacs and Where and what is webmin? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem
Anyway, the Mandrake gurus might want to check to see if Linuxconf still has this bug, and if so report it to the authors of Linuxconf. I've never liked Linuxconf, and will probably kill it off and put webmin on or continue to administer my system the old fashioned way, with emacs and Where and what is webmin? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem
Why do I get the feeling you didn't do a search on Fresh Meat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) before asking that question? Must be cause you are right :-). I am still learning where to look for stuff within linux and elsewhere. I know of freshmeat and others. It is just a lot of stuff to organize at one time. -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:56:21AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: Why do I get the feeling you didn't do a search on Fresh Meat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) before asking that question? Must be cause you are right :-). I am still learning where to look for stuff within linux and elsewhere. I know of freshmeat and others. It is just a lot of stuff to organize at one time. I thought it might be the case that you were still learning. Otherwise I would have been much nastier. :-) By now I expect you have answered your own question. It is courteous to do some research before asking on a list. Fresh Meat is a good place to do exactly this sort of research. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Linuxconf Problem
Where: webmin.com/webmin What: Like Linuxconf, Webmin allows you to configure Linux and various software that you may have installed. Webmin works via any browser w/ or w/o SSL. http://plainmail.com/linux/secure.html Jeff Malka wrote: Anyway, the Mandrake gurus might want to check to see if Linuxconf still has this bug, and if so report it to the authors of Linuxconf. I've never liked Linuxconf, and will probably kill it off and put webmin on or continue to administer my system the old fashioned way, with emacs and Where and what is webmin? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] linuxconf sendmail.cf
On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 08:23:34AM -0600, thus spake Joseph Lee Pereira: Linuxconf points to /usr/lib/linuxconf/mailconf to get the info to generate it's sendmail.cf file. Problem is those old files generate a 8.8.7 sendmail.cf file. I have Sendmail 8.10.1; I need to have linuxconf use the correct 8.10.1 files. How do I do this? What files do I use from Sendmail 8.10.1? Where do I place those files? I know this a very basic question, so I appreciate any and all advice I can get. I'm very new to Linux, so I appreciate your patience in replying to my request for help. Thank you in advance!! Sorry this isn't a specific answer to your question - I don't know about Linuxconf. There is some very good material on setting up email for Linux at www.moongroup.com/mailhelp.phtml this covers postfix as as well as sendmail and others. HTH Glyn M -- ** * "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. " * * Douglas Hoftstatder* **
Re: [expert] linuxconf sendmail.cf
I have read once that you can turn off the auto menu function of Mandrake. The question is where and how ? -- Eugene GrimsdellSystem Administrator OSRAM South Africa www.osram.co.za Tel:+27 11 805-1777 Fax:+27 11 405-6695 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 173971
Re: [expert] linuxconf says system not in sync
Hi again, Thanks for the help w/lynx. I probably should have thought of that. For anyone who's interested, I did the following things to correct the linuxconf problem I was having. Here's the description from my previous post: On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Eric Rahmig wrote: 1. When quitting linuxconf, it complains that the system is not in sync. It wants to change ownership of /var/spool/mqueue to root.mail, it wants to change /usr/sbin/pppd to mode 755, and it wants to restart gpm. I noticed duplicate entries in "Control" - "Control files and systems" - "Configure file permissions and ownership" for /var/spool/mqueue and for /usr/sbin/pppd, each with different settings. In /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm there are "extra" files, mail.mdkconf and ppp.mdkconf. Are these supposed to be there? Are they causing the duplicate entries? I configured the permissions on the duplicate /var/spool/mqueue and /usr/sbin/pppd entries to match. No more complaints from linuxconf. Also, regarding restarting gpm at linuxconf exit, I noticed that /etc/rc.d/init.d/gpm said "pidfile: /var/run/gpmpid" but the actual file was /var/run/gpm.pid. I changed the line to read "pidfile: /var/run/gpm.pid" and linuxconf stopped trying to restart gpm whenever I tried to exit. Eric -- Eric Rahmig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] linuxconf says system not in sync
- Original Message - From: Eric Rahmig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone noticed any of the following after doing a fresh install of Mandrake 6.0? Sorry, don´t know anything to 1. 2. I'm unable to run lynx, either as root or as an ordinary user. [root@localhost ~]# lynx produces the following: metamail: Can't open temporary file! Lynx wants a /tmp directory in your Home directory. It´s because of security. Normal /tmp is world-readable and no good place to store mail or other sensible data. Just go to your home and do a mkdir tmp and everything should be okay. BTW: This is one of the facts you find in Mandrake Answers by Tom Berger (English) or on my site in German wobo -- http://people.netsurf.frankfurt.de/wobo/
Re: [expert] linuxconf says system not in sync
Make a tmp dir in your home dir to fix lynx. Dunno about the other but i have noticed same thing At 02:45 PM 8/16/99 -0500, you wrote: Hi all, Has anyone noticed any of the following after doing a fresh install of Mandrake 6.0? 1. When quitting linuxconf, it complains that the system is not in sync. It wants to change ownership of /var/spool/mqueue to root.mail, it wants to change /usr/sbin/pppd to mode 755, and it wants to restart gpm. I noticed duplicate entries in "Control" - "Control files and systems" - "Configure file permissions and ownership" for /var/spool/mqueue and for /usr/sbin/pppd, each with different settings. In /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm there are "extra" files, mail.mdkconf and ppp.mdkconf. Are these supposed to be there? Are they causing the duplicate entries? 2. I'm unable to run lynx, either as root or as an ordinary user. [root@localhost ~]# lynx produces the following: metamail: Can't open temporary file! Does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this? Thanks, Eric -- Eric Rahmig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] linuxconf says system not in sync
for lynx: mkdir ~/tmp Jo Eric Rahmig wrote: Hi all, Has anyone noticed any of the following after doing a fresh install of Mandrake 6.0? 1. When quitting linuxconf, it complains that the system is not in sync. It wants to change ownership of /var/spool/mqueue to root.mail, it wants to change /usr/sbin/pppd to mode 755, and it wants to restart gpm. I noticed duplicate entries in "Control" - "Control files and systems" - "Configure file permissions and ownership" for /var/spool/mqueue and for /usr/sbin/pppd, each with different settings. In /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm there are "extra" files, mail.mdkconf and ppp.mdkconf. Are these supposed to be there? Are they causing the duplicate entries? 2. I'm unable to run lynx, either as root or as an ordinary user. [root@localhost ~]# lynx produces the following: metamail: Can't open temporary file! Does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this? Thanks, Eric -- Eric Rahmig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Linuxconf+Harddrive+Netscape4.61
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Andrew Edwards wrote: I just did an install of Mandrake 6.0 and there are three things I can't resolve: 1. I used linuxconf in Redhat 6.0 to dial out with my external isdn modem (ifup ifdown) but in Mandrake linuxconf seems to connect but doesn't create the new route. I check make "default route" in the ppp configuration but it still does not resolve the problem. I have to use kppp to dial out. Maybe a linuxconf bug, have you tryed setting it up in netcfg? 2. My Harddrive access light stays lit but I don't hear the heads moving. I did a reinstall thinking this was autofs working it's magic but I still get the harddrive light that stays on. Should I be worried! I wouldn't be, mine never comes on. And yes it's pluged in and i've tested it with a battery, even cliped the lag off and switched polarity. and the blasted light never comes on. 3. Are there any issues between Mandrake 6.0 and Netscape 4.61..Whenever I try to access my email through an Outlook Web Access page Netscape just quits. I'll get to the page and type in my login info (usernamepasswaord) but once I hit enter, Netscape just quits. Some people have reported better luck useing the OK button opposed to pushing enter, but as Jean-Michel says the libc5 is a lot more stable. Thanks in advance! Andrew
Re: [expert] Linuxconf+Harddrive+Netscape4.61
There is a lot of issues with Netscape. Get the libc5-based version at http://coruscant.netrevolution.com/pub/netscape Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Andrew Edwards wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:39:28 -0400 From: Andrew Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Linuxconf+Harddrive+Netscape4.61 I just did an install of Mandrake 6.0 and there are three things I can't resolve: 1. I used linuxconf in Redhat 6.0 to dial out with my external isdn modem (ifup ifdown) but in Mandrake linuxconf seems to connect but doesn't create the new route. I check make "default route" in the ppp configuration but it still does not resolve the problem. I have to use kppp to dial out. 2. My Harddrive access light stays lit but I don't hear the heads moving. I did a reinstall thinking this was autofs working it's magic but I still get the harddrive light that stays on. Should I be worried! 3. Are there any issues between Mandrake 6.0 and Netscape 4.61..Whenever I try to access my email through an Outlook Web Access page Netscape just quits. I'll get to the page and type in my login info (usernamepasswaord) but once I hit enter, Netscape just quits. Thanks in advance! Andrew
