[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Buck wrote: Actually, does anybody remember what Charlie Lutes said about suicide? His stories. I seem to remember Charlie talking about how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Osho (Rajneesh) vs. MMY

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Just once, it would have been fantastic if MMY had ever given a lesson like this. (As a matter of fact, it would have been FUCKING great!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI Great rap. I never met the guy, but the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote: the Daniel suicide deal was going to cycle back to some more common sense thinking, it seems to be taking off in the other direction. This tribute by Radhika Schwartz (no relation to Dan) on BATGAP is so far off

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

2010-06-01 Thread FairfieldLife
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
Live up to some of the quotes you put on the Home Page of FFL. Like the one that says, What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. One of the things that has been disturbing me a little lately, Rick, is that *you* seem more committed to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: What is the lack of freedom being spoken of here? Am I wrong in thinking it's LIVING? If this is true, and not just some story that this twif thought up, the person saying this or thinking this has become convinced that LIVING and having an

[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
To follow up, and explain a little, I'm not trying to overly get in your face, Rick. I'm just pointing out the essential value of your original vision in creating Fairfield Life. I am of the opinion that the record of Jim Flanegin's thoughts, words and actions presented here on FFL is a more

Re: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 3:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Live up to some of the quotes you put on the Home Page of FFL. Like the one that says, What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. One of the things that has been disturbing me a little

[FairfieldLife] Slurls -- you might not stick yours where I stick mine

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
The author of the part in quotes above is talking about spaces. In particular the spaces we mentally insert in URLs, left to our own devices. The result is now the subject of a book: Hilarious web addresses revealed in new bookA list of the internet's most inadvertently amusing web addresses –

[FairfieldLife] Re: MASS AWAKENING PT 30 Extraterrestrial Contact

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgIn0zQ7Pjsfeature=related Too late Nablus, the rest of the world had it's awakening to the existence of Venus a long time ago. Did you learn nothing from the Mexico ET fiasco in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Alex Stanley
The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, from the perspective of Waking Down Brand Second Birth Awakening, having awoken to my ocean nature makes being a wave/drop a WHOLE lot more fun and easier to deal with. Like Adyashanti describes it, it's a very peaceful, quiet freedom.

[FairfieldLife] Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, from the perspective of Waking Down Brand Second Birth Awakening, having awoken to my ocean nature makes being a wave/drop a WHOLE lot more fun and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I perceive a real danger in the *myth* about enlightenment that says it's a state in which one's very thoughts and perceptions and decisions and actions are reflections of The Truth. Believing that is true to some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, from the perspective of Waking Down Brand Second Birth Awakening, having

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: I think that a lot of my inability to conceive of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip I think that a lot of my inability to conceive of such a belief system is the same thing that gives me pause with Buddha's supposed First Noble Truth, that Life is suffering. Life is *not* suffering for me. Never has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread feste37
I second that. Well said. I also find myself agreeing with Turq and even Vaj. The surprising thing is that such things have to be said at all. Given the episode with Ravi and now the suicide of one of the BATGAP high fliers, it seems to me that the BATGAP enterprise and the Wednesday night

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Similarly, I cannot conceive of anyone clinging to and glorifying the Maharishi-promoted idea that the ultimate goal of life -- having

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: snip I do still experience a certain degree of suffering when I allow myself to get caught up in a polarity, like I'm doing with the issue of Dan's suicide. I think what he did was a horrible, cruel, ignoble,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield Different story. A friend here re-tells hearing Charlie Lutes getting a phone call

RE: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
Good challenge Barry. I will respond, hopefully by this evening. Have to get to work now. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A challenge

[FairfieldLife] The Satsang Answering Machine

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
The Satsang Answering Machine The Answering Machine Of Different Enlightened Masters Nisargadatta Maharaj 'Hi! This is Maharaj. I am not home right now. But in reality, I have never left. I have been here before you called and will be here after you hang up.' Ramesh Balsekar 'Hello! This

[FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma download limits

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time now I try to read a post I get this message: The message you requested is temporarily unavailable because this group has exceeded its download limit. Please try again later. What the

RE: [FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma download limits

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma download limits Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better

[FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma download limits

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time now I try to read a post I get this message: The message you requested is temporarily unavailable because this group

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece I just wanted to comment on this, so that at least someone did. I think this is fascinating research, and I hope it continues. And I say this as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece I just wanted to comment on this, so that at least someone did. I think this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece Maybe it's in the actual study, but I can't find anything in the article that explains how they can be so sure that the electrical activity is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Osho on AIDS

2010-06-01 Thread Joe
That may or may not be (depending on how you view the whole raja, pretend country thing) but even assuming he was nuttier than MMY that doesn't make him worseor better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: As brilliant and original as Rajneesh/Osho was, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece Maybe it's in the actual study, but I can't find anything in the article that

[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Duveyoung
I agree with Barry, Rick. The bane of spirituality is our basic ignorance of others such that we have to admit that we can never really know their status, and, missing that element, a canvas is constructed upon which those who pose and suppose paint. If some one poses and another supposes

[FairfieldLife] Ashes To Ashes

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
For those who watched the British series Life On Mars (*not* the spit American travesty of a remake), and have been watching the followup series Ashes To Ashes, the final episode of the latter has been a long time coming, and looked forward to with as much anticipation as the finale of Lost. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma download limits

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time now I try to read a post I get this message: The message you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece Maybe

[FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma download limits

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better than it is in real life.

[FairfieldLife] How vast is space? How important are you?

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm providing a link to this rather than trying to paste it in, because you'll want to click on it to enlarge it and follow the sequences of scale to the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/frLHu.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread j_alexander_stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: snip I do still experience a certain degree of suffering when I allow myself to get caught up in a polarity, like I'm doing with the issue

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread David Hawthorne
Test (posting) From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: MASS AWAKENING PT 30 Extraterrestrial Contact

2010-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgIn0zQ7Pjsfeature=related Too late Nablus, the rest of the world had it's awakening to the existence of Venus

[FairfieldLife] A fountainhead of the resurgence of Vedic civilization

2010-06-01 Thread merlin
Nepal: A fountainhead of the resurgence of Vedic civilization by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News 31 May 2010 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is known throughout the world as the Founder of the Transcendental Meditation Programme, the most thoroughly researched and effective technique

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread yifuxero
Right, but the Batgap forum has been useful to expose them. But right from square one I'm still trying to figure out: The Awakened: I'm Enlightened and my individuality has dissolved ...So my question is: how is an interview possible without an individual: at least a body/mind talking, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Bhairitu
So you don't mind if we don't empathize with you? I'm not into belligerence anyway. Mike Dixon wrote: Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the ...children.:) From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Satsang Answering Machine

2010-06-01 Thread yifuxero
great!...I love it. And Jerry says What Will Be will Be!...along with Ramesh Balsekar. Nisargadatta Maharaj is Jerry's favorite. He sent me a cc of Nisargadda's book I AM THAT some time ago. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The Satsang Answering Machine

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 2010 Summer Session IAA

2010-06-01 Thread Dick Mays
2010 Summer Session Invincible America Assembly Events on the Maharishi University of Management campus Schedule Summer Session IA Assembly July 3-31 Governor Refresher Block 1 (Governor Recertification Course) July 10 through 24 July Visitors Weekend, MUM July 16-19 TM-Sidhi Program

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of yifuxero Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 1:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought Right, but the Batgap forum has been useful to expose them. But right

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Dixon
Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear it, it makes me want to vomit.  Kind of reminds me of Christ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Dixon
Whatever floats your boat. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 11:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy   So you don't mind if we don't empathize with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I would call that *false empathy* and when I see it

[FairfieldLife] The Empathic Civilisation - How Empathy is Essential to Evolution

2010-06-01 Thread do.rflex
How human development and evolution of consciousness is based on the extension of empathy. Bestselling author, political adviser and social and ethical prophet Jeremy Rifkin investigates the evolution of empathy and the profound ways that it has shaped our development and our society. Watch

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 2:40 PM, It's just a ride wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: IME the dark night is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF) groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their dark night of

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-06-01 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 29 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 05 00:00:00 2010 309 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jun 01 23:22:39 2010 37 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 34 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 30 authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread It's just a ride
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Buck *Sent:* Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Osho (Rajneesh) vs. MMY

2010-06-01 Thread seventhray1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI This was absolutely brilliant. Timeless comedy.

[FairfieldLife] Post Game Show

2010-06-01 Thread seventhray1
Oh boy, I hope I don't get too insensitive. But over at BATGAP, the discussion has moved into contacting Daniel in his new environs. And I'm sure all will be glad to know that he is doing fine and hasn't gone anywhere (standard boiler plate) Guidelines have been put forth for those who wish

[FairfieldLife] featuring: the Goebbels family

2010-06-01 Thread Yifu Xero
http://www.life.com/image/50595130

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Game Show

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote: Oh boy, I hope I don't get too insensitive. But over at BATGAP, the discussion has moved into contacting Daniel in his new environs. And I'm sure all will be glad to know that he is doing fine and hasn't gone

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield I always wondered why everyone took Charlie Lutes so seriously. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers. Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and some common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is unacceptable. One of them was from the MUM President's Office, a guy who knew

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers. Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and some common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is

[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Realism of Adi Da

2010-06-01 Thread Yifu Xero
Note:  Adi Da says that Lenz was a former devotee of his in a previous life.  ...  okbut his artwork is damn good!  Click onto it: http://www.adidabiennale.org/index.htm

RE: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick It first appeared during the Ravi meltdown. First, it was like pulling teeth to

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick To follow up, and explain a little, I'm not trying to overly get in your