[FairfieldLife] Repost: Dr. Suurküla's interview

2014-05-30 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Suurküla /soor-kuelae/ = big-village Transcendental Meditation teacher Dr Jaan Suurküla from Estonia has seen a few things in life. Leaving his home country as a child, then finding his way back to it. Leaving behind the Western medicine to embrace the wisdom of the integral approach

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
well...I can't agree with this analogy, though it works for most. Unfortunately my father's first wife used to use psychiatrists against me, having me go, and then lying openly about what they said, in order to build and sustain a negative story about me, personally, to the family, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't do any of that stuff - point being that once consciousness becomes infinite, the goal of 'mindfulness' is accomplished, anyway. Even better, because carrying the consciousness of Infinity, is, by definition, unlimited, any situation can be recalled in perfect detail, if additional

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know, this reminds me of when I was at MIU - this is when I was still a believer in TM and TM-ishness and it really surprised me that most, nearly all of the foreign students were constantly bad mouthing the United States. Certainly the Europeans did, the Swedes, the French, the Germans in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com You know, this reminds me of when I was at MIU - this is when I was still a believer in TM and TM-ishness and it really surprised me that most, nearly all of the foreign students were constantly bad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow, that's extreme. But maybe the analogy does work. Is the US really that out of control? I don't think so. But good for you to come through that intact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : well...I can't agree with this analogy, though it works for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Guru, the Lama

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
emptybill wrote: You might get lots of shakti but that is NOT jñâna. Share asks: emptybill, what is the relationship between shakti and jñâna? Are they interdependent? On Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   You seem

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I did a cursory check of the most admired countries. US was #22, just ahead of Brazil. Lower than I expected. On the other hand, I think you create a distorted picture of this lashing out and denial. Maybe if I moved around as you do, I'd feel no affinity towards any place either.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the family gulag - lol - It wasn't all bad - dad was awesome. Anyway, yeah, you are right - the analogy DOES hold. No, the US is not some malevolent force, out to destroy its citizens. A lot is said about personal liberty here, and I certainly see a tension between the centralizing forces in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just musing here. I've lived my whole life in pretty much one place, even though I've done a fair amount of traveling. Not too much in Europe other than for TM courses, which as Barry has pointed out was somewhat limited in how much of the country you actually saw. But when I see videos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, pretty lame to be running down where you live - Just Move. Also applies to finding endless things wrong in any facet of the external world - usually indicates an internal adjustment is needed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You know, this reminds me of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Steve, that's interesting about Sweden. I read years ago that Europe has a dwindling birth rate and economists have associated that with economic challenges as the population ages. On Friday, May 30, 2014 7:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are you for? Christ Allmighty, we know what you are against. Every so often, just sprinkle in something in the for column. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, pretty lame to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good practical spiritual discussion in this whole thread. It [ mindful Being] in gradient could also be called, 'spiritual discernment' that can be turned on or cultivated sort of like a faculty. Being mindful, as in Being in it. A sort of a vector of Apprehending or Discernment as something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Funny you should mention that Share, because the image I had in mind about people in other countries looking like those I see everyday, is that of a grandmother type, little pudgy, short white hair done at the hairdresser, with her glasses attached to a chain. (-: Seems like some areas have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A little addition - when I was at MIU America bombed someone - I forget who now, but it was in response some aggressive act or other. All and I mean all the foreigners at MIU were upset and disparaged the US openly - until Marshy came out and praised the US for retaliating the way it did - he

[FairfieldLife] Something for Buck

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A theater review in today's New York Times: Songs of Devotion, Songs of Rapture ‘Early Shaker Spirituals,’ Plain-Spoken Tribute http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/theater/early-shaker-spirituals-plain-spoken-tribute.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
At this point Bevan, it would seem, is keeping himself circumstantially at the lecturer-teacher level in his primary role to preserve and perpetuate Maharishi's teaching and movement as Bevan sees it and also is attending to help wrangle and secure Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaaraam Dr. Tony Nader in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, now we know that Barry also conceives of Europeans as a monolith. I'd be willing to bet that many, if not most, Europeans have a view of the U.S. that is significantly more nuanced than Barry's. For sure, you could find some Americans who think the U.S. is just fine as it is. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That was to MJ, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are you for? Christ Allmighty, we know what you are against. Every so often, just sprinkle in something in the for column. (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't do any of that stuff - point being that once consciousness becomes infinite, the goal of 'mindfulness' is accomplished, anyway. Even better, because carrying the consciousness of Infinity, is, by definition,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something for Buck

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great find, thanks. It is fun they found the Shakers that way. Seems it is a good quick theatrical retelling of the life-cycle of life found and lost in a spiritual group. The Shaker movement is a great example of mysticism and spirituality found and revived in a moment and lost. I've had some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  I did a cursory check of the most admired countries.  US was #22, just ahead of Brazil.  Lower than I expected. On the other hand,  I think you create a distorted picture of this lashing out and denial. Maybe if I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:02 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. Being a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something for Buck

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There is a lot of scholarship going on around Mother Ann and the Shakers now. In watching I feel a great contemporary look in to the life-cycle of what was Shakerism is to look in on the Ammachi movement now. Very similar modalities and explosive growth of an organization. Someone just posted a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com You know, this reminds me of when I was at MIU - this is when I was still a believer in TM and TM-ishness and it really surprised me that most,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something for Buck

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : A theater review in today's New York Times: Songs of Devotion, Songs of Rapture ‘Early Shaker Spirituals,’ Plain-Spoken Tribute http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/theater/early-shaker-spirituals-plain-spoken-tribute.html

[FairfieldLife] Connection?

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have no idea if this article is credible but it does relate to our recent discussion of guns: http://libertycrier.com/nearly-every-mass-shooting-last-20-years-shares-one-thing-common-weapons/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 9:28 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As you say, the end result is fullness of mind, anyway, even when it is empty. This sounds like a Zen koan - /a mind full of thoughts but empty of thoughts at the same time?/ That might cause a lot of strain in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] TM and Shakers

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Last year I was at a conference and heard a paper delivered on the introduction and use of printing presses within Shaker communities to publish the Shaker songs as a means of unifying a spreading and diversifying movement.. Very much like Maharishi buying the Heidelberg color presses at a time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't make things up. Unlike Barry, I don't have to. I'm an amateur medievalist. One of the books I came to France to write is based on the Cathars (also known as the Albigensians), a religious sect that flourished in the 12th and 13th centuries. They had an interesting approach to teaching,

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and Shakers

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Last year I was at a conference and heard a paper delivered on the introduction and use of printing presses within Shaker communities to publish the Shaker songs as a means of unifying a spreading and diversifying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When walking, just walk. When eating, just eat. When sleeping, just sleep. When sitting just sit. Richard, I think this is the result of rather than the cause of being established in Being. I could be wrong. On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:01 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nablusoss, thanks so much for posting this. It made me wait for an opportunity which came today, an email from the Democratic Party. I have unsubscribed to their newsletter list and fortunately was able to tell them why, this bill! For me, it's the final straw! On Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:42

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Guru, the Lama

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 6:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: emptybill wrote: You might get lots of shakti but that is NOT jñâna. Share asks: emptybill, what is the relationship between shakti and jñâna? Are they interdependent? That's a Sanskrit term used in Hindu Tantra.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, thanks so much for posting this. Mindfulness sounds exhausting to me! All that continual manipulation of attention! Plus Kabat-Zinn himself says that all the contents of attention are fleeting. So why bother to focus on them?! Just let attention go where it goes naturally, to a field of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Guru, the Lama

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 5:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Also, I seen no evidence that Govinda lived in retreat for 3 years, 3 months, 3 days to complete the traditional ngondro preparatory practices of 100 thousand full-body prostrations/100, 000 Buddha-Dharma-Sangha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Guru, the Lama

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/29/2014 5:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You might get lots of shakti but that is NOT jñâna. The key word here is vijnana - /pure consciousness/. We already possess basic knowledge - what is needed is a way to experience /transcendental knowledge/ - in Tibetan the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act S igned By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsan to” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
You've shown yourself to be a responsible citizen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nablusoss, thanks so much for posting this. It made me wait for an opportunity which came today, an email from the Democratic Party. I have unsubscribed to their newsletter list

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 5:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I miss a few *places* in the United States, such as Big Sur and other power places I love, but I do not miss the country itself, and feel no affinity towards it at all. I am an American only through an accident of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 6:57 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On the other hand, figure in the original motive you supposedly had for moving to Europe. Research purposes. Maybe for purposes of convenience, you now indicate a different reason. To research and write a book on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood

2014-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
I tried to make you see the transformative power of TM as witnessed in the progressive change of quality in his radiance over the years. It's really quite remarkable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : At this point Bevan, it would seem, is keeping himself

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act S igned By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsan to” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you Nablusoss, and hopefully I'm a citizen of the world, not just of one town, one country... On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:53 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   You've shown yourself to be a responsible citizen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 7:03 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And there are fifty different versions of that (aka states), to choose from. Quite the carnival. The nice thing about being here in the the land of the free, is that we can go anywhere within the continental USA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 7:12 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Steve, that's interesting about Sweden. I read years ago that Europe has a dwindling birth rate and economists have associated that with economic challenges as the population ages. The real problem in places like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, thanks so much for posting this. Mindfulness sounds exhausting to me! All that continual manipulation of attention! Plus Kabat-Zinn himself says that all the contents of attention are fleeting. So why bother to focus on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/30/2014 6:57 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On the other hand, figure in the original motive you supposedly had for moving to Europe. Research purposes. Maybe for purposes of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 9:19 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: When walking, just walk. When eating, just eat. When sleeping, just sleep. When sitting just sit. Richard, I think this is the result of rather than the cause of being established in Being. I could be wrong.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 9:13 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don't make things up. Unlike Barry, I don't have to. It looks like Barry has done a 180. Go figure. I'm kinda happy that my character in the book I'm writing is a heretic to the heretics, because obviously I can't quite iden-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
According to the email I got from Joe Biden this morning there are only 28 Democrats left. :-D On 05/30/2014 07:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nablusoss, thanks so much for posting this. It made me wait for an opportunity which came today, an email from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, Mindfulness as a formal practice tries to simulate the infinite nature of the mind, as it is naturally experienced during enlightenment. Kinda like faking an orgasm, to try and get the sense of a real one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 8:05 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Here are a few key components of practicing mindfulness that Kabat-Zinn and others identify: * Pay close attention to your breathing, especially when you’re feeling intense emotions. * Notice—really notice—what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, I get a daily newsletter called dailygood.org. Probably that's what you're referring to... On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:20 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, thanks

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, I bet they all work for Monsanto! I'm gonna google and see what Hillary thinks of GMOs... On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:01 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   According to the email I got from Joe Biden this morning there are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He certainly has had no time to write an alternative novel, to compete with the one he has been rewriting on here, forever, entitled, I think, therefore, I am, Motherfucker, and don't you ever forget it, and another thing... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GM O Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is an enduring shame that after the world granted him the Nobel peace prize, Obama has revealed himself, to be a common two-bit whore, for the corporations, a little fascist bitch. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Monsanto Protection Act,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mindfulness is just a form of continuous mental recollection of the field of subjective experience – whether sensations or mentations, whether body, senses or mind. It can be quite exhausting as you suggest and probably is exhausting for many beginners. As a method for repeated refocusing of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com He certainly has had no time to write an alternative novel, to compete with the one he has been rewriting on here, forever, entitled, I think, therefore, I am, Motherfucker, and don't you ever forget it, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GM O Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just yesterday I went to a farmer's home just outside of the town I live in to do some computer service, and while there I asked him his opinion of Monsanto and their policies. (He used to be a dairy farmer and now grows wheat and soy.) He just shook his head and looked away for a minute. Then

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
what the heck do they throw 'em in the canals for? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry reads only the posts that are about him. As to low standards, yes, in terms of subject matter, it doesn't get much lower than Barry. But it's amusing to push his buttons. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com what the heck do they throw 'em in the canals for? Some were stolen, and then tossed aside by the thieves. But interestingly enough, about 3/4 of them were *blown* there by the rather fierce winds we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Monsanto Protection A ct Signed By Obama, GM O Bill “Written By M onsanto” Signed Into Law

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, pretty evil to be f'ing with the country's bread basket, just to make a buck. Hopefully, we won't have to chop their heads off. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Just yesterday I went to a farmer's home just outside of the town I live in to do some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry studiously paints targets on himself, all day long, and then wails, with self-pity, Why is everyone *shooting* at me??? - lol More later, time to reload. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
emptybill, re your first paragraph: imo continuous mental recollection is NOT witnessing because recollection suggests that the object of awareness has occurred in the past. Witnessing is ongoing. I equate consciousness with awareness and agree with Maharishi that attention is a beam of such.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Zeitgeist in Leiden-- Once again, the camera finds Barry, sitting by the canal, asking himself the question with no answer. Face tilted up to the grey sky, he questions himself, silently, and rigorously, Though I studiously, and continuously, paint targets on myself, why is everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Retina Display [1 Attachment]

2014-05-30 Thread pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Surface Pro 3

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My dictionary, Share, gives the first meanings of recollection as tranquility of mind and religious contemplation. Those are older, specifically spiritual uses of the term that don't refer to remembering what is past. I would assume that's how emptybill is using it with regard to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
imo continuous mental recollection is NOT witnessing because recollection suggests that the object of awareness has occurred in the past. Witnessing is ongoing. Apples and oranges, Share - witnessing, the initial sense of an expanded self, beyond obvious boundaries, witnesses everything -

[FairfieldLife] Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
=== SHARELONG60 WROTE: Ann, thanks so much for posting this. Mindfulness sounds exhausting to me! All that continual manipulation of attention! Plus Kabat-Zinn himself says that all the contents of attention are fleeting. So why bother to focus on them?! Just let attention go where it

[FairfieldLife] Our Milky Way will Collide with Andromeda

2014-05-30 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But not to worry. Humans will be long gone before this collision would actually occur. https://screen.yahoo.com/new-york-times/colliding-galaxies-072923238.html https://screen.yahoo.com/new-york-times/colliding-galaxies-072923238.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/30/2014 2:24 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Even Maharishi said techniques can take you only so far, so what are the signs that indicate that the techniques one practices have reached the limit of their utility for the purpose of enlightenment? Also, after enlightenment,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I know nothing about any of them save they are high ranking government officials/politicians in the UK who happen to do TM. Rupert Murdoch does TM as well. I'm sure that many people whose politics and behaviors I disagree with immensely do TM. The point wasn't about how nice

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mindfulness, it is also that place like after you have thought a sutra or mantra and you are sitting as just quiet in samadhi in restful alertness. Resourcing Awake in Being, then pinging the system with some vibration of thought as the mantra or sutra and yet mindful as what comes out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A saint? On a scale of transforming things spiritually one has spiritual authors, lecturers, teachers, sadhus, swamis, gurus, sat gurus, and jagad gurus ranging in each case from the inconsequential up to truly saintly in life transforming status. Sat gurus and jagad gurus seem to have higher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You seem to believe that TM = mindfulness, and while that might be the case for some people at some point in their practice, I'd suggest that TM is its own thing, and trying to drag other terms from other tradition into the discussion pollutes and distorts our understanding and potentially,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know Barry. Why do you continue to reply to Nabby, or Doug? I guess because they say something that you take issue with. It's not complicated. You could, if you wanted, turn it around and say, why do you say things that are exaggerated, or designed simply to get a rise out of

[FairfieldLife] official MUM version of Jim Carrey's commencement speech

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Nice, clear audio. Possibly a couple of minutes missing. Full Speech: Jim Carrey's Commencement Address at the 2014 MUM Graduation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80-gPkpH6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80-gPkpH6M Full Speech: Jim Carrey's Commencement Address a...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
techniques, after enlightenment? Yep, TM - I don't find there is any settledness that needs to be reinforced, or have my attention on anything - but I live a pretty active life, and as a result of my enlightenment, don't put a lot of boundaries on myself. So if I spontaneously end up driving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread feste37
You're absolutely right, auth. It can be thought of as re-collection, which gets the sense over well. This is what the Catholic Encyclopedia has to say about it: Recollection, as understood in respect to the spiritual life, means attention to the presence of God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yes, and Barry too. Not Barry II, but the other one. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : That was to MJ, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sometimes the questions arises in my mind, on this forum, Well what are you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Judy you are quite correct. This was how I was using the term: as in the Latin term recollctus.- gathering back again or bringing back to conscious mind the previous point of attention. This is really quite old stuff in the Roman Catholic contemplative tradition, based as it is upon the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had a friend with whom I had lunch recently talk about the value of Ravi Shankar's breathing exercises, i.e., the merging of the inward and outward breath. He spoke so highly of it, that it almost made me want to consider it. But that horse has sort of left the barn for me, so I don't think

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sat 31-May-14 00:16:02 UTC

2014-05-30 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/24/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/31/14 00:00:00 795 messages as of (UTC) 05/30/14 23:27:26 135 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 89 Michael Jackson mjackson74 86 awoelflebater 58 Share Long sharelong60 54

[FairfieldLife] Lena Dunham on changing the world, staying grounded through meditation

2014-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
Premiering Friday 5/30 at 7 pm ET on Indie http://www.siriusxm.com/indie, Ch. 104 Bob Roth is the the Executive Director of the David Lynch Foundation, where he has helped direct the introduction of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) program to over 500,000 at-risk students in 130 public and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
The Turq fellow behaves like any other Bimbo, they actually believe the world is centered around them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com He certainly has had no time to write an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Beautiful. Now that is where spirituality turns to sainthood in field effect. What you can do with a human system is way more than transcending, like also being of use in the lighthouse to others in life. -Buck for example, I may do a TM, or 1/2 a TM, simply for its ability to clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hah! The Govmint does as it pleases you can only just writhe.

2014-05-30 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Judge Napo is a libertarian. If that makes him a fascist then you are a neo-marxist terrorist. I need to give DHS your nom de guerre here on FFL to the FBI so they can visit with you. You are probably on their watch list anyway. Apparently they need to know you better ... as in the biblical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness and/versus TM

2014-05-30 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The blog link on TM Mental Sinking is a hoot. Is is straight Gelugpa ideology where fear of losing the object of attention causes them to try to grip it tight and never lose it. This fear drives their practise of mantra-japa and demonstrates why dhyana-samapatti is so admitedly difficult for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University

2014-05-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh wow! Now there's a ringing endorsement for TM! Rupert Murdoch! From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey

[FairfieldLife] Jim Carrey's Commencement Address

2014-05-30 Thread Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]
Here's the link to Jim Carrey's 26-minute commencement address: http://www.mum.edu/RelId/694468/ISvars/default/Full_Jim_Carrey_Address_Video_and_Transcript.htm His address is fun and touching. The link also provides a transcript. The Valedictorian follows his address with her own, and opens

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-30 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings . . .: This is Rama we're talking about, no? What I was meaning to ask you before was: did Rama ever give his followers (or just you perhaps) instructions on how they also could levitate? Did Rama claim to be utilising Patanjali's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know Barry. Why do you continue to reply to Nabby, or Doug? I guess because they say something that you take issue with. It's not complicated. You could, if you wanted, turn it around and say, why do you say

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, I get a daily newsletter called dailygood.org. Probably that's what you're referring to... Yes, I realized that after I had written that. But I think you like good and you like a daily dose of it so that is fine!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim Carrey's Commencement Address

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The version I saw from the iphone was 4 minutes longer. Censorship from MUM? Of course not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : Here's the link to Jim Carrey's 26-minute commencement address:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
As I said before, some scholars claim that mindfulness as a practice is quite a recent innovation in Buddhist circles and some older Buddhist traditions think it is counterproductive: 2. Outside of zazen practice, in our daily life when we walk, talk, eat, sit, lay down or work,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim Carrey's Commencement Address

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Carrey's presentation was motivational for action in life in a way that we don't often get. It was pure spiritual wisdom and a call to spiritual action. Great delivery. -Buck “You are ready and able [after graduating with consciousness-based education at MUM] to do beautiful things in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim Carrey's Commencement Address

2014-05-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
May be not. The stage was uber set up to film and record the commencement. Was proly a lot of pressure, even for Bevan, to MC the introduction. Un-usual was that Bevan read from prepared statements as his introduction of Carrey. Bevan had a long introduction that he read. It was kind of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?

2014-05-30 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you, Empty, for at last providing a little context. It was growing painful watching people here other than Anartaxius talk about *something they have never studied or practiced in their lives*, as if they not only knew what it was but as if they knew all about it and had no need for it.

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