Ultrarishi, IMO the real problem lies with your sentence MMY never set up a
system of self correction. That could never have happened because his
philosophy was essentially so narcissistic that he could not imagine the
possibility of any decision or policy he made *needing* correction. Just go
Looking for a new episode of BBC2's The Honourable Woman just now, I stumbled
upon a phenomenon that reminded me of Willytex/Richard Williams/Punditster
*and* how to deal with him.
Once one has become fairly proficient at dealing with the pirate 'verse, one
becomes equally adept at figuring
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that which people call witnessing is a state of disassociation - ergo, that
which TM'ers love to believe is a sign of rising enlightenment is actually a
psychotic state of disconnect from reality.
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Chopra did piggyback on Marshy's success - when he broke from the Movement, he
had spent to much time and effort and book space praising meditation (up till
that time TM) he wanted to capitalize on the opportunity to cash in on his own
growing popularity and thus needed a meditation he could
okay, I guess that is your opinion. I am not sure if that theory is borne out
by the actual experience of long term mediators, or those who have this
experience.
I am no expert on Eastern or Vedic literature, but I believe you can pretty
much throw out the whole tenant of the various
That helps answer my question I guess.
That was some pretty strong power of suggestion going on, evidently.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Chopra did piggyback on Marshy's success - when he broke from the Movement, he
had spent to much time and effort and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Nice dog. But how do you get such a wide picture?
Not sure but my husband took it and it is about 600K but a lo-res image. He
has a fancy camera, maybe that has something to do with it. As I am looking at
it right now I realize
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
In fact, he says Jesus can't save them. So, there's no need to look for ETs.
Creationist: Aliens Will Go To Hell Not Even Jesus Can Save Them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/22/ken-ham-aliens-go-to-hell_n_5608368.html
Reading FFL this morning, it seems some of those caskets should be
reserved for some of our comrades here today as the level of brain
death in our on-line community seems to be increasing exponentially.
I sure can't argue with this.
On 7/23/2014 8:15 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
That helps answer my question I guess.
That was some pretty strong power of suggestion going on, evidently.
Personally I believe we imbue suggestion with power. It all comes from the
mind and consciousness anyway,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
that which people call witnessing is a state of disassociation - ergo, that
which TM'ers love to believe is a sign of rising enlightenment is actually a
psychotic state of disconnect from reality.
I have to agree with you on
Yep - He, and many, many others, try to make sense of the world, by wedding
themselves to these extreme beliefs. It is the spiritual alternative to the
freedom found, by being always centered in pure consciousness; insanity. He
doesn't have a clue who he really is, so he adopts these beliefs,
On 7/24/2014 7:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Thanks goodness I finally figured out it was all made up bullshit in
my head brought on by suggestion from the organizations that teach it
all.
It sort of looks like you are highly prone to suggestibility. Have
That is absolutely not true, Michael. The spaciness, and what I call dirty
witnessing, often reported by course participants, is an experience of the
disconnection of one's true nature, from the mind's common experience. No
integration there. It is a beginning experience of witnessing, brought
On 7/24/2014 7:48 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
That helps answer my question I guess.
That was some pretty strong power of suggestion going on, evidently.
The susceptibility to suggestion can be very strong in some people.
But, you would think that after such a
On 7/23/2014 11:18 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
She says she does not intend to run for president. At least, for now.
They are all saying that now because they don't want to commit until
they see an opportunity to gain some credence. Currently Rick Perry is
trying to make a
I think I follow what you are saying Ann. But here. I think the deadliest
poison for spiritual development is mood making. Like, to be avoided at all
costs. So, when someone wants to attribute experiences which come about from
the practice of mediation, or during meditation to simply mood
On 7/24/2014 12:52 AM, ultrarishi wrote:
I find the movement itself wanting.
Which one? There is a university that teaches TMSP and management. If
any one person was in charge of a university, you'd think they could
manage a few students. However, there are probably what, a hundred or
more
Somebody more local to us might be the winning candidate. Jerry ain't
so moonbeam anymore and I know of some conservatives who were
impressed with what he did for Oakland is now doing for the state. One
thing, he has *plenty* of experience.
On 07/23/2014 09:18 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com
I like to call him the FFL graffiti artist but his style is more like
something scrawling on rest room walls. He's worth being a punching bag
when he posts some really stupid stuff (which is quite often). Like
you, most of the time I ignore him. And yeah, he would have been booted
long ago
A post script - I know a few Chopra PSM instructors and they all feel that
Deepak let them down and did not support them as he indicated he would. Kinda
like his old master Marshy.
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:
well, obviously if you believe in what M taught then you believe it whole cloth
(at least some people do) those who study such things, psychologist and head
shrinkers and the like have said the state of witnessing and transcending that
meditators (including TM'ers) have described is a state of
Like.
On 7/23/2014 8:12 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Just sharin' a picture of ma dawg Fledermaus.
See? That's what I am talking about - were the experience really an experience
of feeling yourself to be the unbounded awareness that supposedly underlies all
creation, there would be no fear. But I know a lot of folks who describe
similar experiences to the one you had and I think its a pretty
I'll let you argue it out with the psychologist and other mental health care
professionals who have said it, based on interviews and clients who were and
are TM'ers and other kinds of meditators.
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, that is one of the reasons for staying away from TM. A good deal of the
TM experience is and was mood making. I have known many a TM'er whose life was
going to hell, and Marshy and the true believer teachers would always tell them
that something good was happening, that life was getting
On 7/23/2014 8:25 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
doesn't matter what the whereas is, the resolved that is always
the same for MJ.
Yes, Michael, blah, blah, blah, Willy Tex.
According to MJ everyone who practices TM is in an unhealthy state of
mind. So, I wonder how
On 7/23/2014 9:08 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I personally feel that Marshy made up a lot of his teaching to suit
himself and his personal agenda, rather than it being something he
learned at Swami Bramananda's feet.
Well of course - everyone should
How arrogant of you. Why would I argue with people who only study the symptoms
of mental illness? Another foolish notion, from a tiny little angry mind.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I'll let you argue it out with the psychologist and other mental health care
I like the expression Jim uses on occasion. Sometimes you have to put on your
big boy pants and say, hey, this isn't working for me. I need to go in a
different direction
And if, for some reason, you are unable to do that, then you may likely fall
into the cycle you describe below.
I
Such a stupid association. The first time I drove a car, I was afraid. Must
have been because cars are bad, and I better not listen to those who say it is
a transient experience, that we outgrow, huh, MJ?
BS from someone too lazy to know what he is talking about. You call yourself
clever for
I would say your theory makes sense only if you abolish the whole notion of the
so called higher states of consciousness
I apologize in advance if the spiritual path is not a path for the faint of
heart.
We've discussed, dark night of the soul experiences here often.
Might as well
On 7/23/2014 10:50 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
In fact, he says Jesus can't save them. So, there's no need to look
for ETs.
Maybe the ETs have found us already and are here now, only we can't see
them - they could be here as /disembodied spirits/ and we are the human
Why should anyone sane (i.e., Michael, Anartaxius, Salyavin, myself, and
others) bother to argue with a guy whose entire claim to fame as
enlightened is based on how long he's supposedly been experiencing 24/7
dissociation, which psychiatrists consider a symptom of mental illness?
We
On 7/24/2014 2:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Ultrarishi, IMO the real problem lies with your sentence MMY never
set up a system of self correction. That could never have happened
because his philosophy was essentially so narcissistic that he could
not imagine
Richard J. Williams
However, it does look like MJ and Barry have finally found their True Calling -
posting to FFL on Yahoo! Go figure.
And yours, a comedian Richard. Got a good belly laugh out of that one.
You can't make this stuff up folks. Don't change that dial, we'll be right
back.
for me, I have dropped the notion of higher states of consciousness - its all
one thing, what some refer to as higher (which carries a connotation of lower
states of awareness) are just experiences, none higher and none lower. As I
have stated here on FFL before, its just a bunch of made up
It shows that he read the posts of Richard with great interest, and formulates
his big dream in in life in this way: The only way you're ever going to see
change in the TM organization is for it to implode, fail completely, go
bankrupt, and go away.
Let him dream on :-)
---In
I don't recall having ever called myself clever. And are you also reviling Ann
for her experience that I am commenting on?
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday,
I am glad and impressed that your state of perpetual enlightenment, brought on
by years of TM gives you the ability to measure the size of my mind. Maybe
they'll put you in the next Avengers movie and Mental Measurer, the guy who can
measure minds.
From:
Let's say we realize that we aren't our fingernail cuttings, aren't our
thoughts, aren't our actions, aren't the 'doer'. Hmm, I'm not sure where to go
from here.
OK, if every cause has an effect and every effect a cause, is there a chance
for chance?
If, the big IF, there is no chance for
I apologize in advance if the spiritual path is not a path for the faint of
heart.
Two enthusiastic thumbs up!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I would say your theory makes sense only if you abolish the whole notion of
the so called higher states of
It is sadly funny, to see you argue for your limitations. To the point of
calling an experience of higher consciousness, insanity. Actually, your
response is already mentioned in the Gita, thousands of years ago, so count
yourself repetitious, and unoriginal, at least. Nothing new under the
There aren't any absolute ways to explain these things, and the explanation is
always context dependent. The goal is to fulfill desires, and eliminate
suffering, generally. Other than that it pretty much boils down to common
sense, right? In other words, even if you momentarily, figure it out,
ultrarishi, as I understand it, the Gita admonition yogastah kuru karmani
refers to ALL actions, not just to the action of engaging in battle on the
battlefield. Unfortuantely, most of us are unable to remain established in
Being when speaking about the bad deeds of others. Thus we partake of
Steve, most of the professionals in FF HAVE a spiritual life and for quite some
time. And even now our professional community is actively creating bridges
between the psychological and spiritual domains of life. This project was
started by one such professional and has been met with wise and
Hey, it helps to know how you view things.
So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just
point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their
experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence?
Just askin'
I mean, it is a
Jim, I'm going to try to phrase this delicately.
You believe that your experience of what you call witnessing makes you
better than other people, and enlightened. You have stated as much many
times on this forum, and sneered at those you consider lesser than yourself,
and bound by their
Lame.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I am glad and impressed that your state of perpetual enlightenment, brought on
by years of TM gives you the ability to measure the size of my mind. Maybe
they'll put you in the next Avengers movie and Mental Measurer, the guy
OK, I agree, you are not clever.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I don't recall having ever called myself clever. And are you also reviling Ann
for her experience that I am commenting on?
From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]
oh, you again...nothing to add to my past post - you read it, you got it -
quit trying to end run yourself - it is worse than watching a youtube video of
a dog chasing his tail.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Jim, I'm going to try to phrase this delicately.
On 7/24/2014 3:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
This guy just created a new ID and posted a bunch of files *for no
other reason than to be malicious and waste other users' time*. That's
why I see him as analogous toWillytex. Richard Williams currently
makes *4 to
Richard, you're just one of the exotic ingredients in the soup that is FFL. So
what if there's more of you than other ingredients? Every soup needs a stock!
Go figger (with credit to noozguru)...
On Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:08 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife]
It might be useful to note that dissociative disorders reference a 'healthy'
ego as the centre of what a person is. Spiritual disciplines, while not
destroying the ego, displaces it from the centre of experience - it becomes a
peripheral object of experience rather than the centre of
On 7/24/2014 3:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
DON'T FALL FOR IT. He doesn't mean or believe *anything* he posts
here. Don't react angrily, or defensively, or try to argue with him
about something stupid he's posted. He *knew* it was stupid or a lie
when he
On 7/24/2014 11:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Why should anyone sane (i.e., Michael, Anartaxius, Salyavin, myself,
and others) bother to argue with a guy whose entire claim to fame as
enlightened is based on how long he's supposedly been experiencing
24/7
Richard J. Williams wrote:
However, it does look like MJ and Barry have finally found their True
Calling - posting to FFL on Yahoo! Go figure.
On 7/24/2014 11:37 AM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
And yours, a comedian Richard. Got a good belly laugh out of that one.
New home, new home bar.
It's a Law Of Nature, and one that no cafe writer would ever disobey. :-)
So, having moved across Leiden, I kiss Bad Habits goodbye (literally) and, as
charming as that bar was for a home bar, I now have a new one. It's called
the North End English Pub, and the name
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and your house was the target of thousands
of rockets? What if you found out that terrorists were tunneling under ground
and digging their way toward your kitchen? What if a terrorist popped out
When you say analysis what do you mean exactly? Because the conclusion that
there is an alien ship in the first picture seems like a rather hastily reached
conclusion. I would say it's more likely to be a plane moving fast, hence the
streak of light that happens with a slow exposure such as
On 7/24/2014 2:31 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Richard, you're just one of the exotic ingredients in the soup that is
FFL. So what if there's more of you than other ingredients? Every soup
needs a stock!
Barry sounds like he is really JELLOS. Maybe he doesn't
Yes, Share but if you water the soup down with too much stock, it is very
unsatisfying, nutritionally thin. Richard's posts seem largely unconnected to
what goes on here, almost mechanical in their regularity. If he actually
discussed something and spent more time writing some original comment
Great analogy, Xeno. In the case of nutritionally thin stock I'd say then it's
up to the rest of us to add veggies and healthy spices like turmeric. I'll
supply the cotton candy and twinkies for dessert (-:
PS I don't think people at our age are gonna change much just because other
people
Salyavin, you misunderstand. If, in a photograph of the sky, there is an
unrecognisable blob of indeterminate shape, this is definite evidence of an
alien spacecraft, just as much as bent straw is evidence of alien beings
tampering with crops.
It is interesting to watch TV shows showing
We've been drinking Anchor Steam here. I have some guests, one from
Fairfield and one from Seattle so treating them to the Bay Area brew as
well as the Bay Area weather. Introduced my Seattle friend to
Starbuck's Clover which he has never even living in Seattle and
returning the favor for him
I admit, in retrospect, to not having paid sufficient attention to it. This
writer did:
Malaysia Flight 17: The Unique Way the Dutch Mourn
Malaysia Flight 17: The Unique Way the Dutch Mourn
With their innate distrust of ideology, the Dutch are strikingly different from
At my age, I am allowed to be cranky, and some people are just nuts.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Great analogy, Xeno. In the case of nutritionally thin stock I'd say then it's
up to the rest of us to add veggies and healthy spices like turmeric. I'll
I hope there's an option to be both cranky and nuts (-:
On Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:51 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
At my age, I am allowed to be cranky, and some people are just nuts.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Salyavin, you misunderstand. If, in a photograph of the sky, there is an
unrecognisable blob of indeterminate shape, this is definite evidence of an
alien spacecraft, just as much as bent straw is evidence of alien beings
Today, here on CNN, they showed live, without much commentary, the unrelenting
passage of hearses carrying the caskets of the remains of the MH17 crash
driving into Hilversum. Whoever was assigned to get that many vehicles of this
kind together must have had an interesting time organising. This
If you want to get committed to an mental institution, describe your spiritual
experiences to a mental health professional. You will learn early on to just
shut up about them. Or maybe you change the phrasing some, and then they think
you are highly actualized. But, better to just shut up
And amongst other design faults; why is it that only humans and guinea pigs
can't synthesise vitamin C in their bodies?
Shoddy workmanship I call it
Less than 10% of human DNA has functional role, claim scientists
This is clearly evidence of alien intervention on planet Earth. Humans are
obviously nothing but guinea pigs for their experiments, and over time human
DNA and guinea pig DNA became co-mingled.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To:
What if you woke up in the morning and your house was the target of
thousands of rockets? What if you found out that terrorists were
tunneling under ground and digging their way toward your kitchen? What
if a terrorist popped out from a tunnel and fired a grenade launcher
at your house? What
On 7/24/2014 4:06 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Today, here on CNN, they showed live, without much commentary, the
unrelenting passage of hearses carrying the caskets of the remains of
the MH17 crash driving into Hilversum. Whoever was assigned to get
that many vehicles of
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Salyavin, you misunderstand. If, in a photograph of the sky, there is
an unrecognisable blob of indeterminate shape, this is definite
evidence of an alien spacecraft, just as much as bent straw is
evidence of alien beings tampering with
I hope you finally meet a woman at this new dive of yours. How long has it been
since you last had sex**, you old geezer? Over a year? Two years? Five years??
*blow up dolls, your dog, and your right hand, don't count. :-) :-) :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
turq, wishing you and your family good health and much happiness in your new
home...
On Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:25 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
New home, new home bar.
It's a Law Of Nature, and one that no cafe writer
that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL -
I'm just here.
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM
Subject: Re:
again your point of view. Mine is that once you get rid of the idea that Marshy
was always telling the truth and was a fount of great wisdom and start looking
with a clear eye at the Movement AND start listening to people who got broken
from doing TM you find that getting in a state of mental
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...and sex, at least once, with a woman, unpaid, in the next five years. I will
even admit that I have never been enlightened, if you can accomplish this
miracle.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
turq, wishing you and your family good health and much happiness in
Why not just admit it now, without preconditions? You do not need Turq for
that. No one ever gets enlightened anyway. Something may happen that gets
called 'enlightenment', but no one ever has it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
...and sex, at least
Nor would I expect you too, if it supports something you wish to believe. What
does it say on the home page here, What is wanted is not the will to believe,
but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more
leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have
chosen a different path. God love him.
Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are
always so sure of yourself.
that sounds of interest Share. I think the default is to generally keep ones
experiences close to the vest. You always run a risk when you go public with
them.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, most of the professionals in FF HAVE a spiritual life and for
I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying
certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do,
or not, is a different matter.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
that's your projection on my role here, its
Michael, I am afraid it is speculation on your part wr to suicides and
attempted suicides on the part of practitioners of TM. Maybe the facts will
bear that out, but you really don't know.
but speaking of getting rid of ideas, you seem to think that anyone who had,
or currently has, a
My advice? Stay away from stand-up...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Why not just admit it now, without preconditions? You do not need Turq for
that. No one ever gets enlightened anyway. Something may happen that gets
called 'enlightenment', but no one ever has
yep - I picture Michael waking up one day, maybe two years from now, sheet
marks pressed into his face, suddenly coming to consciousness, after a deep
night's sleep, rubbing his eyes, and then, ...oh...fuck...I really WROTE
THAT?! ...fuck...
PS love ya, MJ - hope you are enjoying the game, as
Take Two: lol - your (lack of) confidence, in turq's (e)mission is showing...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Why not just admit it now, without preconditions? You do not need Turq for
that. No one ever gets enlightened anyway. Something may happen that gets
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