Not all wealthy people are jerks, greedy and me people. I knew some
kids from a wealthy old money family and the only way they could get
access to their trust fund was to first take a job where they had to
support themselves. This taught them the value of money. It was also a
very liberal
Thanks for posting this sparaig. This is one of my hobby horses. Pure
consciousness is precisely awareness without any thought, image or sensation.
And no thought = no thinker.
Robert K C Forman (a TM practitioner) has written on this topic, including The
Problem of Pure Consciousness:
Xeno,
I'm a truth seeker. There was a valid reason why the rishis and prophets of
the past have written books like the Bible, BGita and Srimad Bhagavatam. IMO,
they were conveying their realization of truth through their meditation and
contemplation. Some stories in the Bible, like the
You, and the other Barry, probably earn more in an hour than most people earn
in a week. By some standards, you're living in the 1% - both born with a silver
spoon in your mouth in the land of opportunity. But in fact, your health is
your greatest wealth. Old is the new black.
---In
The basic idea sounds fine to me. I'm sure it's therapeutic. Maybe this book is
more appropriate for FFLifers?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Johanna Basford's adult coloring book, 'Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt
and Coloring Book,'
Kālāma Sūtra - [from YouTube]
Rely not on the teacher, but on the teaching.
Rely not on the words of the teaching, but on the spirit of the words.
Rely not on theory, but on experience.
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions because they have
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous
pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and
children agree with this decision?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
A new film dramatizes the case. Might be worth a look . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DNXa8IJ2hU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DNXa8IJ2hU
On 03/28/2015 03:25 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Bhairitu, you are plain nuts. To solve a problem, one has to
look at the root of the problem. For some peculiar reason,
you are refusing to address this.
Must be the pot calling the kettle black? :-D
You keep putting
So, it has been established that MJ has never been to India and obviously
knows nothing about Hindus.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority
of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor.
Non
You sound really JELLOS. There's just no way Bill Gates or Warren Buffett can
compare to all your philanthropic efforts. LoL!
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If Cook follows in Gates' and Buffett's shoes then he will join the ranks of
a couple of snot nose
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People practising mindfulness (Vipassana) meditation appear to describe pure
consciousness as a result as much as those practising TM, though, from what I
have read of peoples' experiences, perhaps not quite so soon after starting
meditation as TM practitioners. Perhaps part of the difficulty
you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority
of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor. the number of incidents where Hindus
riot, rampage and kill their Muslim and Sikh neighbors for some insult to one
of the Hindoo deities belies your fantasy
From:
You have a point. My point is it's good to have a healthy
eco-system, of the economic system. A system that has
diversity of approaches will be more stable in the long run.
I have often noticed that any organisation or country, it's
success often depends on the vision of the top-man, ie
Can you point me to contemporary mindfulness essays or research on contemporary
mindfulness practitioners where they describe a situation where there is no
thought, no mantra, no awareness of the outside world, no awareness of the
body, no emotion, no intuition, no memory, no mind content of
Just when I think it really isn't possible for JR to get any less intelligent,
he surprises me. Not only is he incapable of imagining a rich person deciding
to share his wealth with others, he doesn't even know that the CEO of Apple is
gay.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
I was quoting comments on research to indicate that relying on research with
the present level of quality is a fool's game.
You are making the assumption that 'pure consciousness' is a specific
meditative state instead of the ground of experience which includes what TM
calls 'the relative'
What a wonderful, fun way to use paradox.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Most people hate egotists.
They remind them of themselves.
I love egotists.
They remind me of me.
(Raymond M Smullyan)
There is a lot of research that indicates most, if not all these books are
compilations of earlier material, whether written or orally transmitted. This
does not imply they are corrupt or without value.
Also the human mind's ability to see a story in a metaphorical way can
override a
Most people hate egotists.
They remind them of themselves.
I love egotists.
They remind me of me.
(Raymond M Smullyan)
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that
thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks
everyone in India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India
and I'm sure the place would come as a shock to him.
On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM,
JR might be a literalist. I certainly am not. I have encountered Christian
groups that interpret scripture metaphorically and speak of consciousness
rather than entities such as Moses or Jesus who are going to save your ass if
you believe in them. Some people just seem to be unable to interpret
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You know Americans are going to have to subsidize the cost to teach 100
million. I guess they can up the American initiation fee and make recertified
teachers get recertified again.
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Great quotes. The TM researchers and movement seem quite desperate to prove a
negative, even if they don't experience it. So, they co-opt the discussion by
defining their particular alpha-coherence as the definition of a transcendence.
That makes it real easy to win an argument between
I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM
apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold of
Dome zombies?
From: email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 28,
I base my opinions on facts, not on TM public relations hype and fantasy. As I
have pointed out before, if you REALLY think TM is so hot, you would be doing
yourself, and teaching it yourself or at least teaching at MUM as you once did.
How come you left there anyway? As to this Africa deal
I forgot to mention, I have in fact looked at facts, many of them presented
here on FFL. And not just those stories posted by Sal, Curtis and Barry.
I perused the archives of FFL since its inception and those things I found,
posted by many who no longer post here, along with my personal
Yeah, sometimes I imagine Buck singing Come Back to the Dome was a
country western tune.
On 03/28/2015 07:12 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of
us TM apostates will have some sort of epiphany
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous
pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and
children agree with this decision?
Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his
philanthropic personality.
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous
pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and
children agree with this decision?
Just when I think it really isn't
Ha ha.
But did you read the article?
A little more background:
after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war
refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with
handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa.
[Basically, 100
As I pointed out to Unc, should the projects happen as intended, it would be
the United Nations and teh disaster relief NGOs (not to mention the governments
of Brazil, Peru, and other countries negotiating to have their own employees
trained as TM teachers) that would be paying for TM
So, you're claiming that Fred Lenz was the Last Incarnation of Vishnu, but
JR's world is based on fictions? Go figure. We know that Lenz was a real
person, but some may have doubts about the Vishnu guy, Barry. Maybe you could
explain the process by which you know that Fred Lenz was Rama, the
You can only measure what y ou have the equipment to measure.
However, it's a truism that just because two things can be described teh same
way at one level, doesn't mean that they are identifical.
My favorite example is what happened to some British friends many decades
ago... They got a
This is excellent news, although of course it is not much use directing it to
Turquoise B or MJ, neither of whom, despite their protestations to the
contrary, is remotely interested in the truth. They actually remind me of
political zealots, like the right-wing Republicans who oppose everything
Apparently Barry believes in Buddhas, reincarnation, karma and apparently he
also believes in the Tibetan 'bardo state. So, what is the difference between
believing in Buddhas, Bodhisattvas and Tibetan demons, and believing in God and
Christian angels and Satan? Can you explain cognitive
Get real! Deal with it and move on.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM
apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold
YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED INSIDE A
Oh well, I guess they'll need another excuse to do it then.
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to
touch 100
You may be correct.
WIth negotiations going on with the United Nations, the governments of Brazil
and Peru, various NGOs, etc., the flaws you metnion will certainly come to
light very fast and sink any such plans.
On the other hand, what if they negotiations actually go through
Will
From: jr_esq@... FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous
pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and
children agree with this decision?
--- turquoiseb@... wrote :
Just when I think it
Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview
is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are
interperted literaly.
Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more
metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative.
This leads to confusion and
Hy-Vee Foods, “Employee Owned” is another good life-cycle example of this
potential within cooperative living if not actively looked out for by a level
of transparency and civil society. Employee-owned with a few people at the top
management cutting hours and benefits of their working not-quite
If Cook follows in Gates' and Buffett's shoes then he will join the ranks of a
couple of snot nose bastards who make a big show out of heppin' folks when
what they are really doing is help themselves and their friends take over the
world. Fuck all those lying sobs.
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JR, Xeno called you out more specifically on this, pointing out that you
haven't even *tried* to deal with the questions I posed to you. I'll stick with
calling you an abject coward for falling back on a combination of the Judy
Stein Routine and the Jim Flanegin Routine.
In the first routine,
Bhairitu, you are plain nuts. To solve a problem, one has to
look at the root of the problem. For some peculiar reason,
you are refusing to address this.
You keep putting the blame on capitalism, when the real
villain is consumerism. You can easily defeat consumerism
with a simple
You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you.
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to
Obviously, I agree that JR's world is based on fictions that he has been told
so many times that he now cannot differentiate them for fact. The very
*concept* of fact is something he has lost touch with. I was trying to help
him realize this by asking him to *explain* the process by which he
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