[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2013-08-26 Thread obbajeeba
Thanks for bringing this part of Turq's brain to our attention, again, Judy. See below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As for the last question you asked here, I simply do not think

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I'm afraid my respect for your intellect just went down a bunch of notches. That's something I will just have to live with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: I'll tell you exactly

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I see. And you believe, despite what I told you, that Bob's sentence expresses this very well. I'm afraid my respect for your intellect just went

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Steve, You see how sensitive Judy really is? Your response: That's something I will just have to live with—it touched her with its sincerity and even dignity. And she felt [you can set me right if I am wrong about this, Judy] she had to amend her comment—which she did. She knew she had

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Steve, You see how sensitive Judy really is? Your response: That's something I will just have to live with—it touched her with its sincerity and even dignity. Actually I thought it was a bit of snark, a politely

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread maskedzebra
I will be more careful in the future, Judy: If I missed interpreting you as badly as I did here, then I should exercise some caution in my sense of how attuned I am to first person ontologies. Whew. A big goof there. Sorry. Still, I thought Steve reached down to where he had to, to survive the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Landau
So Robin, You seem to be getting it from several sides in response to a pattern I believe I've been seeing in you. So I thought I'd add my voice in the hopes this would be helpful to you or me or anyone and because you invited me to convey what I may have perceived in you. I've already said it

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: I will be more careful in the future, Judy: If I missed interpreting you as badly as I did here, then I should exercise some caution in my sense of how attuned I am to first person ontologies. Whew. A big goof there.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Well, not really. It's intellectual laziness on your part, not lack of intellectual capacity (and that's the way I should have said it; I know you aren't stupid). You have different standards than I do. (at least as far as

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, not really. It's intellectual laziness on your part, not lack of intellectual capacity (and that's the way I should have said it; I know you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
Thank you for your comments. An analogy of what I think sometimes happens with Judy is that you're walking along and suddenly your foot gets caught in a trap. I mean it doesn't really snap tight, and doesn't necessarily hurt, but you're stuck. So you try to pull your foot out, and it doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: snip It simply doesn't mean that much to me. I think her insights are many times on the mark. But I think she could make the same point often times without the repeated follow ups on the same subject. She obviously

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread Yifu
http://nathistoc.bio.uci.edu/spiders/0058.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Thank you for your comments. An analogy of what I think sometimes happens with Judy is that you're walking along and suddenly your foot gets caught in a trap. I mean it

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Look, toots, you followed up several times on this one yourself. Don't try to lay it all on me, please. You obviously didn't get what I was objecting to about what Bob wrote, so clearly I wasn't able to make my point until I

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
My OC kicking in here. Deleting the the before Arabs. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Look, toots, you followed up several times on this one yourself. Don't try to lay it all on me,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread Denise Evans
There is no crowd :) From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]   --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread seventhray1
] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Look, toots, you followed up several times on this one yourself. Don't try to lay it all on me, please. You obviously didn't get what I was objecting to about what

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-19 Thread authfriend
Just for fun, I'm going to put back Steve's entire post to Robin that I was commenting on. Makes his disclaimer look just a bit disingenuous, I'm afraid: - Thank you for your comments. An analogy of what I think sometimes happens with Judy is that you're walking along and suddenly your foot

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Like many progressives you're progressive till someone offends your sense of what is acceptable. YOU SEEM TO FORGET, democracy is NOT about protecting the people we agree with, it about protecting the people many of us

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Like many progressives you're progressive till someone offends your sense of what is acceptable. YOU SEEM TO FORGET, democracy is NOT about

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Like many progressives you're progressive till someone offends your sense of

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Like

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread seventhray1
Let me be more concise. I particularly liked this phrase, and I think it is often true. Turn a liberal over and give them a good shake and out pops a born again neo con---almost every time.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Let me be more concise. I particularly liked this phrase, and I think it is often true. Turn a liberal over and give them a good shake and out pops a born again neo con---almost every time. Yeah? What do you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread seventhray1
I'll tell you exactly what I mean. And that is people are prone to be hypocrites. And that a liberal could easily be inclined to impose his agenda, by any means necessary * as much as anyone else. * Quote attributed to Malcolm X (if I am not mistaken) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-18 Thread authfriend
I see. And you believe, despite what I told you, that Bob's sentence expresses this very well. I'm afraid my respect for your intellect just went down a bunch of notches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'll tell you exactly what I mean. And that is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Price
Barry's---what do you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPeakW6BWTM From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:04:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip Although I appreciate your concern about wasting money, I don't think the research would have been that costly--- since more than half of your posts, during any week I've been posting, amply demonstrate the censorious

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-15 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I promise to pay top dollar for my researcher, you deserve no less. You aren't going to pay anybody anything. You're not going to ask somebody to do it

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-15 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks but I didn't really plan it so you can't attach any specialness to it. It all happened spontaneously, but there definitely seems to be a purpose behind it which is slowly unfolding itself. Few more puzzles to be solved before I can say I have truly inttellectually understood it. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-15 Thread whynotnow7
Perhaps FFL needs a Cranky Old Bastards club, those often looking at the world through Pissed Off glasses. I can think of five potential members right off the bat!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-15 Thread Ravi Yogi
Sure :-). I don't have problem with the anger energy itself, more with the repressed part, the society that constantly represses it which leads to more serious problems. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Perhaps FFL needs a Cranky Old Bastards club, those

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-15 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah, the only way I have found to infiltrate the repressed stuff and neutralize it is to relax into it, and then I find it is the same as the stuff I like, which I know you are all up into too.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Sure :-). I don't have

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks Steve - Yes I do know that :-), it takes a special man to make that phone call and there weren't many who did that, some who emailed. I do remember all of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, you only inspire affection in me. That's the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread seventhray1
Nay, it takes a more special person who's not afraid to put it all out there during good times and bad, knowing that by doing so can help facilitate change to a better place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Thanks Steve - Yes I do know that :-), it takes a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread maskedzebra
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain extent

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread maskedzebra
: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain extent) is an accident. If she

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip For starters, I need to state categorically that---unlike Britain in its hour of need---Turqo has never asked or, it seems, needed anyone's help with the blitzkrieg of criticism recently directed his way. He is like The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
Below From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:13:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, Extremely disappointing response

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip For starters, I need to state categorically that---unlike Britain in its hour of need---Turqo has never asked or, it seems, needed anyone's help

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip ***BS. I don't need to be as articulate as Xeno has been to point out the obvious nature of the attack on Turq. I believe any thinking person, who has read anything on the subject, knows the company you're keeping are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
Below From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:12:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Three other things, Bob: ***Not sure I

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip what has recently driven us into to full collaboration is this not so subtle attempt at censorship. Um, bullshit. There is NO attempt at censorship going on-- at least no attempt by Barry's critics. Attempted

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Neuroscientists have found that we seem to be hard wired with some sense of 'fair play'. Presumably something to do with primate evolution,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
below From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:25:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Price
liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip what has recently driven us into to full collaboration is this not so subtle attempt at censorship. Um, bullshit. There is NO attempt at censorship going on-- at least

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
He is like The Borg---he gets stronger the more he is attacked. authfriend: This last is a matter of opinion. Some of us-- especially those who have known him for a while-- see a steady downward slide... snip A slow steady decline into almost total irrelevance. It's like he never

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: PS: One of the reasons I have to hire someone else for research is that I'm here to learn how to write and need to say I learn as much from you as I do from Turk although not as much as I do from MZ and Ravi. Xeno,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip ***BS. I don't need to be as articulate as Xeno has been to point out the obvious nature of the attack on Turq. I believe any thinking person, who has read anything on the subject, knows the company you're

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, I plan to get back to you with the answers you so richly deserve. But before I run (not he way MZ seems to be have been implying), I need to clarify what seems to be a miscommunication. I would never, ever, ever

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread maskedzebra
From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I promise to pay top dollar for my researcher, you deserve no less. You aren't going to pay anybody anything. You're not going to ask somebody to do it for free either. You aren't stupid. Look, I don't know what's motivating

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread obbajeeba
, September 14, 2011 11:25:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: snip ***BS. I don't need to be as articulate as Xeno has been to point out the obvious nature

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread Denise Evans
she was gone for the Irene hurricane :) --- On Mon, 9/12/11, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 12

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-14 Thread maskedzebra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylrzf42LTWo Dear Bob, So perfect you made this available for me to see. As you know I pinpoint this event as signifying the death of the Church, the disappearance of the Holy Trinity from creation, the kind of post Final Judgment-like age that has followed.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I've often wondered why the Commish refers to the lovely Sally Sunshine as Stupid. My theory (likely this says more about me than the Commish) is that either Sal is drop dead gorgeous or a Republican? What do you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Well Judge Judy has convicted me for being a cop and handing out tickets, though I am not sure what the ticket I seem to have issued was for. What is my sentence Judge? Just for the fun of it, Xeno, and

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: As for the last question you asked here, I simply do not think Barry devotes much energy to what he writes. This is what I think. It is an hypothesis, because I have no way to measure what he does. But

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread seventhray1
Ravi, you only inspire affection in me. That's the truth. Good luck with the move. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, I'll give you Robin, but Ravi, I don't think so. He's

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Ravi, I was not, at least in my own mind, defending Barry. I was questioning how Judy came to certain conclusions because I came to certain other conclusions. In other words, I read into the situation interpretations that differ from hers. As for non-duality, I have always kind of approached

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: Because I write as fast as I do, and so effortlessly, I write for the sheer fun of writing. Admittedly, being somewhat perverse, sometimes I also write for the fun of pushing buttons... Troll - A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses. Read more:

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Bob Price: That was spooky... Stop worrying what Sal looks like. Why not just post a photo of your own mug, so we can see how much hair you've got left? LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread maskedzebra
Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain extent) is an accident. If she were defending your friend as intensely as she criticizes him, that would make no difference to me. I have an *experience* of your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Price
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:13:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob Price: That was spooky... Stop worrying what Sal looks like. Why not just post a photo of your own mug, so we can see how much hair you've got left? LoL!  

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Well Judge Judy has convicted me for being a cop and handing out tickets, though I am not sure what the ticket I seem to have issued was for. What is my sentence Judge? I don't believe I suggested that

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Yo Cliff, It's funny you should bring that up. I managed to make it to the stylist yesterday (this place has everything the monied could want) and I will admit to indulging in a few highlights. This is one of the

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has had to bite his fingers to keep from responding. One way or the other, the arrangement suits me just fine: he's made it impossible for himself

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
I looked up the suggested thread and then googled Brunhilda and got an image that looks just like I imagined Sal... Stop worrying what Sal looks like. Why not just post a photo of your own mug, so we can see how much hair you've got left? LoL! Bob Price: Would I be

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
I'll be merciful to Barry here and not quote from the many posts in which he's denounced me for digging up past posts to illuminate current discussions (that is, unless he denies he ever made any such posts). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Price
] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] I looked up the suggested thread and then googled Brunhilda� and got an image that looks just like I imagined Sal... Stop worrying what Sal looks like. Why not just post a photo of your own mug, so we can see

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Price
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain extent) is an accident

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
Oh, goodie. More stupidity from Barry due to his refusal to read my posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [Barry quotes Xeno's post to me:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip It is not a fact. Opinions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Price
Just to keep it in perspective, the 4th ex-wife ran off with the cable guy.  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:24:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread maskedzebra
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:39:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, My feelings about Turqo are not influenced by anyone else's. That Judy's comments converge with my own (to a certain extent

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip For example Judy said (below) that I should observe duality's rules of fair play. So many claim that life is not fair. I don't know if that rule exists. How do you show that such a rule exists? Don't you

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip For example Judy said (below) that I should observe duality's rules of fair play. So many claim that life is not fair. I don't know

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread RoryGoff
* * Ha! Where I come from, silence indicates silence :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Either way, I find it amusing that Barry either has no idea what I'm saying about him, or hasn't been able to resist reading a post and has

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: isn't just a nonsense statement like, e.g., Tuesday is in the key of E-sharp minor. WTf? :D

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Ha! Where I come from, silence indicates silence :-) Well said, Rory. And it indicates nothing else.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread whynotnow7
So true in your case. Your silence remains signifying nothing. Pristine and untouched, it waits patiently to express itself, perhaps for an entire lifetime.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
If no one dares to answer Judy, I will assume that she is right... Barry sucks as a debater. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. RoryGoff: * * Ha! Where I come from, silence indicates silence :-) So, you agree that Barry sucks as a debater.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
* * Ha! Where I come from, silence indicates silence :-) turquoiseb: Well said, Rory. You suck as a debater. And it indicates nothing else. That's debatable.

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip For example Judy said (below) that I should observe duality's

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
That was spooky. I looked up the suggested thread and then googled Brunhilda and got an image that looks just like I imagined Sal. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/136/brunhilda01.jpg/ The only question is, does your wife know you're gabbing with Sal and Judy and

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Ooops. Should be, but we do realize that Life isn't fair isn't just... Xenophaneros Anartaxius: Well, back up the mountain. It is such a drudge to climb the mountain. But the cool thing is, when you get to the top, it disappears. What mountain?

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Yifu
  From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ snip The claim I make is not that life isn't fair, but rather that there's

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread turquoiseb
More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: As far as I can see, Barry conserves his energy for what he likes to do. If he does not engage in an argument, perhaps he knows this, perhaps not,

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread maskedzebra
Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. Mean-spirited and desperate. Sad, really. Sal Sal, You refer to my childishness, my insulting him amongst themselves, and that

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread maskedzebra
Barry, did your mother ever spank you without telling you why? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: More good meat to bounce off of, Xeno...you're on a roll. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As far as I can

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread turquoiseb
Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying to suck her into an argument: 967 words My original comment, posted 10

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any Web page and do a word count on it, without having to read it. Sal's post: 33 words MZ's reply, trying

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: Someone says something in 20 words that offends them because it runs counter to their world view, and they feel compelled... So, you feel offended. LoL!

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread RoryGoff
Thank You, Steve, but the sobriety you seek is entirely in your own mind's eye. While perhaps appearing from time to time as sober as a Judge -- say, Clarence (Anita Drink) Thomas -- in reality I'm always weaving across all eight lanes of this veepish super-highway -- but is it eight, or is it

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread maskedzebra
Since the human soul cannot be produced by the transmutation of matter, it cannot but be produced immediately by God. Reason in man is rather like God in the world. He who desires a good seeks to have it as it really is in nature, not as it is in his consciousness. The desire for good is more

[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread obbajeeba
chalk one up for nabby. : ) lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Can't resist, so I have to take advantage of a utility I wrote that allows me to highlight a block of text on any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Price
: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:44:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] [Comments in text] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote

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