[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 20, 2005, at 10:58 PM, shukra69 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, > >> shaking, etc. a common defe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-21 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2005, at 10:58 PM, shukra69 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, >> shaking, etc. a common defect if shakti awakens from below > > I obviously have this problem what do I do?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, What is "ananta" (endless?) in the same suutra, in your opinion? > shaking, etc. a common defect if shakti awakens from below instead of > above--consequent

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, > shaking, etc. a common defect if shakti awakens from below I obviously have this problem what do I do? instead of > above--consequently the experiential co

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Vaj
Yeah, it's for asana--esp. getting past the problem of movements, shaking, etc. a common defect if shakti awakens from below instead of above--consequently the experiential commentaries give techniques on this when commenting on this word (shaithilya). Oral trad. gives the 30 levels of corpse p

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread sparaig
LEtting go is NOT an effort. The natural relaxed state of the hand is half-open. Sounds like you keep a lot of tension in your muscles and have learned to call it "normal." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Letting go is an effort. > > On May 20, 2005, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, "Patañjali" seems to dig the word "shaithilya", Pronounce: ~ shy-it-hill-ya > e.g. "prayatna-shaithilya": > > zaithilya > Entry zaithilya > > Meaning n. looseness , laxity Hariv. R. &c. ; flaccidity Su

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread cardemaister
Well, "Patañjali" seems to dig the word "shaithilya", e.g. "prayatna-shaithilya": zaithilya Entry zaithilya Meaning n. looseness , laxity Hariv. R. &c. ; flaccidity Sus3r. ; decrease , diminution , smallness , weskness , relaxation , remission , depression (of the mind) , unsteadiness , vac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Llundrub
ldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> > On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote:> > >  Well no wonder you don't like TM.> > If you are going to make

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread carmemmanning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: > > > Well no wonder you don't like TM. > > If you are going to make accusations, would you at least have the > dignity to quote me? I'm starting to feel like I'm on alt.meditation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Vaj
Thanks Rick, such a true gentleman! On May 20, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Rick wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: >> >>> Well no wonder you don't like TM. >> >> If you are going to make accusations, would you at lea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: > > > > > Well no wonder you don't like TM. > > > > If you are going to make accusations, would you at > least have the > > dignity to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: > > > Well no wonder you don't like TM. > > If you are going to make accusations, would you at > least have the > dignity to quote me? I'm starting to feel like I'm > on alt.meditation. > transcendental! Just ad

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: > > > Well no wonder you don't like TM. > > If you are going to make accusations, would you at least have the > dignity to quote me? I'm starting to feel like I'm on alt.meditatio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Vaj
On May 20, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Rick wrote: > Well no wonder you don't like TM. If you are going to make accusations, would you at least have the dignity to quote me? I'm starting to feel like I'm on alt.meditation. transcendental! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread jim_flanegin
perfect! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All Spititual Developement has to do with, "Letting Go". > This is something which sounds easy, but takes practice, > because everything we learn, has to do with doing. > So, when it comes time to stop do

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Effortless Means "Letting Go..."'

2005-05-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Letting go is an effort. > Well no wonder you don't like TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <