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2007-12-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Democrat Al Gore's running mate in 2000, said he had intended to wait until after the primaries to make a choice for the 2008 presidential race. But McCain asked for his support and no Democrat did. Full story: 'Former Dem Lieberman endorses McCain' By Jennifer Loven

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2007-12-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
Richard J. Williams wrote: Hillary Clinton may be an electable candidate and I could vote for her as well. She supports the war and wants to win it - she supports regime change and voted to authorize the President to use force against Saddam Hussain. The Des Moines Register's editorial

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2007-12-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
off wrote: Stop policing the world, spend the money at home for better security at ports etc. I'm all in favor of security, but we must stand up and fight the terrorists where they live and breed. It is impossible to make U.S. borders 100% secure. And I'm not in favor of the federal

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2007-12-14 Thread aztjbailey
I'm all in favor of security, but we must stand up and fight the terrorists where they live and breed. Terrorists can live and breed anywhere. They are not assciated with any country. All they need is a friendly banker. They could move to Brazil, transfer their money to a friendly Brazilian

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2007-12-14 Thread Brian Horsfield
Great post. Great analysis to a highly emotional issue. The sound bites we get from candidates can be pretty crazy. Fighting non nation state enemies using conventional armies is so crazy. When Ron Paul said a small team of mercenaries would have been a better response to find Osama in a

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2007-12-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
I'm all in favor of security, but we must stand up and fight the terrorists where they live and breed. bailey wrote: Terrorists can live and breed anywhere. Maybe so, but Ron Paul is in favor of using military force against terrorists in Afghanistan. They are not associated with any

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2007-12-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: When Ron Paul said a small team of mercenaries would have been a better response to find Osama in a cave he was ridiculed. We tried that, with a small team that went after Osama at Tora Bora. But a small team can't fight a whole country full of terrorists; that's why

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2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? Every candidate says they will end the war - like the Democrats said in 2006. The civilian death toll is close to one million by independant estimates using change in the death rates since the US invaded. And to a

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2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win the war, not lose it. Ron Paul has zero experience winning any wars and apparently has no

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2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win

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2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Brian Horsfield wrote: You miss the point. Wars against non nation state enemies are pretty much unwinnable since there is no definable enemy. You have to essentially kill everybody to truly declare victory. Not everybody, Brian, just the

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2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Brian Horsfield wrote: You miss the point. Wars against non nation state enemies are pretty much unwinnable since there is no definable enemy. You have

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2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: You call Vietnam a Victory? South Korea? We were not defeated in Viet Nam, Brian, we were defeated in the streets of Berkley. America's involvement in Vietnam was a noble cause - the U.S signed an armistice in Paris. The North Koreans have been held at 37th parallel. The

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2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win

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2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: You call Vietnam a Victory? South Korea? We were not defeated in Viet Nam, Brian, we were defeated in the streets of Berkley. ROTFLMAO ! ! ! Get real. You lost in Vietnam.

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2007-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: You call Vietnam a Victory? South Korea? We were not defeated in Viet Nam, Brian, we were defeated in the streets of Berkley.

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2007-12-12 Thread Duveyoung
I think it would be very cool if Ron got the nom, but on the 15th Kucinich is doing his send me money on the 15th thingy. I doubt he'll beat any of Ron's money totals, but I'm giving Kucinich $100 just so I can look in the mirror and say I did one small thing for my political beliefs besides

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2007-12-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: Still, I don't hear these guys saying often enough how they would reverse what BushCo has done to all the laws with signing statements, outright disobediance, and cramming every federal bureaucracy with cronies done to the second or third levels -- it'll be tough to