Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 28, 2007, at 1:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The 'tudes we see in Jim and Rory are *Maharishi's* 'tudes; the delusions we see in them are *his* delusions. Jim and Rory are just acting out bratty and self-important behavior that they've seen modeled for them for decades. Bingo again. Notice

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'tudes we see in Jim and Rory are *Maharishi's* 'tudes; the delusions we see in them are *his* delusions. Jim and Rory are just acting out bratty and self-important behavior that they've seen modeled for them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread Vaj
On Nov 28, 2007, at 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It's fascinating to me and, I would suspect, to Vaj and Bharitu and others who have seen and been exposed to *other* models for what enlightenment and what it is. These other models do NOT involve a sense of superiority; they do NOT involve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the flea sits on the elephant's rump, thinking it can control the elephant :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Nablusos: A couple of fellows are shaking their anti-TM boat where it used to be so comfy. No wonder they are upset. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of the three folks who regularly say that they are enlightened (or at the very least experiencing enlightened states of mind, even if they don't call themselves enlightened) on FFL, during the last month: * Jim

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Of the three folks who regularly say that they are enlightened (or at the very least experiencing enlightened states of mind, even if they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all seriousness, this attempt to turn the actions of the enlightened into a popularity contest for the unenlightened... Why do you assume that others on this board are unenlightened? Doesn't that imply a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Angela Mailander
You don't think calling someone Buddhi Boy sounds condescending? jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people who have stepped up to the plate here on FFL and made statements about their supposed state of consciousness. My point was simply that one of them has done so with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Angela Mailander
I understand your point about Disney Land. It's the usual statement about it all being illusory. Nevertheless, Rory, given the choice, what sort of life while still in the body would you choose? Are there differences among the various stations in Disney Land? Does being tortured to death in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people who have stepped up to the plate here on FFL and made statements about their supposed state of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people who have stepped up to the plate here on FFL and made statements about their supposed state of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people who have stepped up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A: I understand your point about Disney Land. It's the usual statement about it all being illusory. Nevertheless, Rory, given the choice, what sort of life while still in the body would you choose? Are there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly-- that pronouncement by Vaj about keeping quiet is a historical warning to not confuse the ignorant with the speech of the enlightened. I for one refuse to believe that everyone on FFL is as ignorant as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Until the stories are good enough TO deserve applause, you really can't expect it. But you do. And you get pissed off and defensive when it doesn't appear. That's not enlightenment, dude. That's being a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nablusos: A couple of fellows are shaking their anti-TM boat where it used to be so comfy. No wonder they are upset. :-) jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Unfortunately not upset enough to capsize the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
Nablusos: A couple of fellows are shaking their anti-TM boat where it used to be so comfy. No wonder they are upset. :-) jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately not upset enough to capsize the boat into the ocean though... Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the flea sits on the elephant's rump, thinking it can control the elephant :-) I sense some headway being made. In this analogy I guess people like me are the flea and you guys are the elephant's ass right? It is the assumption of superiority

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: But it's still only a movie, and to be bound to a nice movie is infinitely worse -- INFINITELY worse -- than being free in a nasty one. We can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it's still only a movie, and to be bound to a nice movie is infinitely worse -- INFINITELY worse -- than being free in a nasty one. We can truly *enjoy* the nasty one if we are free, for freedom is bliss. We

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the flea sits on the elephant's rump, thinking it can control the elephant :-) I sense some headway being made. In this analogy I guess people like me are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Cool, thanks for responding Rory. I feel heard and I hope you do too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the flea sits

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, thanks for responding Rory. I feel heard and I hope you do too. I love you, man. I wasn't kidding or making a put-down when I said I feel moved by your great heart. It's awesome.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Cool, thanks for responding Rory. I feel heard and I hope you do too. I love you, man. I wasn't kidding or making a put-down when I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Janet Luise
Right on BlueGreenMan. That's why I mostly just read you, rick, curtis, the traynors a few other folks. Life is too short. I would be very surprised if any fully enlighted being would read this list. And probably everyone has 4 or 5 people they really enjoy connecting with. all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Vaj
On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Rory Goff wrote: You want us all to keep quiet, to not rock the boat? Do I? Don't stop your klesha-dance on my behalf.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Rory Goff wrote: You want us all to keep quiet, to not rock the boat? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I? Don't stop your klesha-dance on my behalf. Nice ambiguity. Do you mean dance *of* the kleshas or dance *on*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Vaj
On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Rory Goff wrote: On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Rory Goff wrote: You want us all to keep quiet, to not rock the boat? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I? Don't stop your klesha-dance on my behalf. Nice ambiguity. Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're really cogitating that much, I'd recommend ice-packs to the skull and call me in the morning. Eat meat and potatoes in heavy gravy now or on arising. Me? No. I just liked your term klesha-dance and was open to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: If you're really cogitating that much, I'd recommend ice-packs to the skull and call me in the morning. Eat meat and potatoes in heavy gravy now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: If you're really cogitating that much, I'd recommend ice-packs to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting stats

2007-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! Just what I was thinking. I love how the flea sits on the elephant's rump, thinking it can control the elephant :-) It is the assumption of superiority that is drawing the fire, not that you are