The deal is, Vajihad, you have not exactly been forthcoming about your TM
experience, dodging and weaving for years. Then Robin joins FFL, and all of
your nastiness, your impotence, and your arrogance that you used to delight
spraying about regarding Maharishi has now found a new target. Its
pa
On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:33 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> otherwise you just sound like a shit head.
Yeah, so maybe my chaktras aren't aligned.
Such a fascination with excrement, Vajihad. You oughta integrate that base
chaktra, otherwise you just sound like a shit head.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
>
> > There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and
On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:58 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and mug old ladies.
> Any truth to that, Vajihad?
None, Rim-job Jim.
There is a little orphaned sentence fragment that I am going to "put down'.
When Judy doesn't get the irony, that means I'm getting too transcendentally
ironic.
While I'm at it, might as well make another aside: Thanks for the kind words,
Vaj.
Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mas
Judy, Judy: I was being ironic (inserting that question)unless this response
is itself your own sense of irony :-)
Anyhow I was just kidding.
I appreciate the pertinence of your question, however. "Where is there to go
from here?"
I will get around to answering that one too.
We will miss the
There was also a rumor going around that you kick dogs and mug old ladies. Any
truth to that, Vajihad?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
>
> > But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either. But the goddamn
> > th
On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either. But the goddamn
> thing is: *they would have been* had I lived before the Second World War.
Let me guess, living the existential life-style?
What was that book your uncle gave you?
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
> But thanks. Yeah, Catholicism is not for me; Jesus either.
> But the goddamn thing is: *they would have been* had I lived
> before the Second World War.
>
> Now, Judy, does that stitch the whole thing together finally?
It should put in
umanity. You are just fooling yourself.Â
> Â
> Â
> Â
> From: emptybill
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:57 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> Chivukula
>
>
> Â
> Â
>
gt;about another usually spurs further clarification or downright disagreement.
>
> From: Jason
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:00 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] L
is greatest con-job ever played on
humanity. You are just fooling yourself.
From: emptybill
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
Chivukula
>
> Robin sez:
From: emptybill
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
Chivukula
>
> Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all I
> da
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > > Robin2: This reflection of yours prompted me to write a
> > > post to zarzar; to which he responded surprisingly graciously.
> >
> > Indeed, I was surprised as well. H
According to the Parasara Hora Shastras, size does matter.
"My lingam is bigger than yours." : )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
> >
> > When you first started posting, I thought what the hell is th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> When you first started posting, I thought what the hell is this!?
>
> Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you
> create, the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin
> became know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
>
> > Robin2: This reflection of yours prompted me to write a
> > post to zarzar; to which he responded surprisingly graciously.
>
> Indeed, I was surprised as well. He's a good guy, very
> smart, and clearly a serious seeker, but tempe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
> Nice laudation of Robin. However, you overlook his proclivity to
> construct his replies so that he only addresses his own notions.
> That is, if he answers at all. This is the definition of a
> monologue.
FWIW, that has not been my e
_
> > From: emptybill emptybill@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 7:14 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to
Ravi Chivukula
> >
> >
> >Â
> >Well she was a Je
woman was quite extraordinary.
>
> From: emptybill
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 7:14 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>Well
Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's
all I dare say.
Oh, you must mean Simone Weil ... "Every sin is an attempt to fly
from emptiness. "
No wonder you ended up Buddhist. Now I know that date of you initiation:
1941.
"The world is the closed door. It is a barrier
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:02 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
>
> > What did Vaj really do on TTC? Where? When? How?
>
> You could at least reveal to us your age of enlightenment number. Each
> teacher has an enlightenment number .Don't you know? Why d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> What did Vaj really do on TTC? Where? When? How?
You could at least reveal to us your age of enlightenment number. Each teacher
has an enlightenment number .Don't you know? Why didn't anyone here point this
out? Are you all fake?
And ple
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> Judy: You're not like anybody we've had on this group, at
> least since I joined it in 2005. TM apostates are a dime a
> dozen around here, but former cult leaders who used to
On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:38 PM, emptybill wrote:
> Nice laudation of Robin. However, you overlook his proclivity to construct
> his replies so that he only addresses his own notions. That is, if he answers
> at all. This is the definition of a monologue.
>
> In this way, Robin has become the reve
He just comes across as real, and he writes well.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
>
> Nice laudation of Robin. However, you overlook his proclivity to
> construct his replies so that he only addresses his own notions. That
> is, if he answers at all. This is the defini
Nice laudation of Robin. However, you overlook his proclivity to
construct his replies so that he only addresses his own notions. That
is, if he answers at all. This is the definition of a monologue.
In this way, Robin has become the reverse mirror-image of Vag the Defier
an amusing corresponde
When you first started posting, I thought what the hell is this!?
Then, a while ago I began reading every word of yours, the context you create,
the reality coming through, the innocence, and the world of Robin became known,
with immediacy, not compared to anything else, just you. Others write
beginning, doesn't deliver and requires
> great leaps of faith, IMO.
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Bhairitu
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SEC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
Judy: Robin, I'm snipping all the Vaj is-he-or-is-he-not stuff.
I think most everything that needs to be said on that
score this time around (it's come up on a regular basis
for many years) has been said, at least to my satisfaction.
May
..the plot,
which shows promise at the beginning, doesn't deliver and requires great leaps
of faith, IMO.
>
> From: Bhairitu
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S
not project something onto him.
> Robin creates a world of his own.
>
> From: Vaj
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> Chivukula
>
>
&g
Robin creates a world of his own.
>
> From: Vaj
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> Chivukula
>
>
>
> You really get it Z. You're as
On 12/20/2011 01:03 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
>> wrote:
People will draw their own conclusion about what m
onto him. Robin creates a
world of his own.
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
Chivukula
You really get it Z. You're asking (IMO) all the right questio
Beautiful.
I wish I had the time to read your posts (and others) in full. This week is a
bit filled with the organic embodiment,(as it always is in this life) of my
presence being summoned to other areas of natural experiences, away from
lengthy visits on this window of time on FFL.
: )
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> If those things appeal to you, and you find them more
> interesting than TV or movies, I say go for it. You've
> found an endless supply of them on FFL. I'll stick to
> the media, thanks. Less ego, and to tell the truth,
> fewer commercia
Thank you Robin for your account! It is touching, and you have a great capacity
as a narrator. It also brings flash-backs to me of my own TM time, of courses I
have been and all the beautiful moments in the movement. I won't make any
comments now,- maybe I will do it later. It is your life, as y
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > People will draw their own conclusion about what motivates
> > > people here.
> >
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> If not, I leave you to what fascinates you in life.
> I have other fascinations.
>
There must be something in this soap opera that keeps you here. Your oft
stated reason is that you find the psychology of seekers, (especially
those you co
Heh ... where's the 19th tee?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> > You forgot to mention the real crux of the questions to Vag:
> >
> > 1. The place and time of his initiation into the ba
Perhaps you will find this interesting. My dad had a care giver the
last two and half months of his life. As my sisters live elsewhere, I
was the one who hired and interacted with her, in consulation with my
sisters. According to her resume she was a former Nun and a hospice
chaplain along with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > >
>
"Who would Jesus bomb?" by Mark Bryan
http://www.artofmarkbryan.com/Who_Would_Jesus_Bomb.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:18 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
>
> > TM transformed me. Maharishi created an experience in me that told me he
> > was the embodi
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:18 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> TM transformed me. Maharishi created an experience in me that told me he was
> the embodiment of the highest truth. The romance I refer to is the romance
> that Saint Francis of Assisi (not comparing me to him, of course) had for
> Christ. Maha
TM transformed me. Maharishi created an experience in me that told me he was
the embodiment of the highest truth. The romance I refer to is the romance that
Saint Francis of Assisi (not comparing me to him, of course) had for Christ.
Maharishi appeared to make me enlightened. Enlightenment was e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> zarzari, I'm getting a little uncomfortable discussing
> Robin behind his back in public, as it were. I shouldn't
> be trying to represent him, so I'm going to quit and let
> him deal with your challenges if he's so inclined.
Okay, fa
zarzari, I'm getting a little uncomfortable discussing
Robin behind his back in public, as it were. I shouldn't
be trying to represent him, so I'm going to quit and let
him deal with your challenges if he's so inclined.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> > Robin's mind-st
On Dec 19, 2011, at 5:41 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> I had love for Maharishi, I had devotion and worked for him, I did what he,
> or the movement told me at the time. And I think I can rightly say, you don't
> need to teach me about intense bhakti. But what he is doing is romantizising,
> that's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > > As I see it, Robin had to force himself to give up something
> > > that had meant the world to him because he found it to be
> > > *ultimately*--in the full meaning of the term--deceptive.
> >
> > Which is a deceptive perceptio
Robin, I'm snipping all the Vaj is-he-or-is-he-not stuff.
I think most everything that needs to be said on that
score this time around (it's come up on a regular basis
for many years) has been said, at least to my satisfaction.
Maybe something new and different will crop up next time,
and we'll tak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
> You forgot to mention the real crux of the questions to Vag:
>
> 1. The place and time of his initiation into the basic technique.
> 2. The place and time of his initiation into any advanced techniques.
>
> Even if you repudiat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Robin--
>
> > I am grateful to you for having understood me so well in
> > my ambivalent attitude towards Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. It
> > is a real consolation to kn
It is odd that you equate more than stating your opinion, without
clarification, follow up, or discussion to be the limit of what you consider an
expression of Self.
To respond to most of the posts here, or answer someone's question, even with
the intent of clarifying and deepening your own ex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Robin--
>
> > I am grateful to you for having understood me so well in
> > my ambivalent attitude towards Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. It
> > is a real consolation to kn
A good point Bill. From that POV he is an irritant badass.
His old handle on FFL, Safeite is actually a name of a
laxative.
> From: emptybill
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non
You forgot to mention the real crux of the questions to Vag:
1. The place and time of his initiation into the basic technique.
2. The place and time of his initiation into any advanced techniques.
Even if you repudiate the teachings, as Robin has done:
3. The place and time of TTC and of b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmm,
> > >
> > > since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay
> > > even 'enlightened'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
Hi, Robin--
> I am grateful to you for having understood me so well in
> my ambivalent attitude towards Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. It
> is a real consolation to know that someone at least on
> FFL has grasped the contradiction of my experienc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as
> > > I was driving ho
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as
> > I was driving home from more errands. For the most part, I
> > think Vaj does reply to his
On Dec 19, 2011, at 6:09 AM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> When we are in unity, aren't we supposed to be everyone? (Not just stones
> BlueIce, even those statues of Govinda)
In Vajrayana Unity is seem differently than in Advaita Vedanta - it's the
nonconventional experience of the unity of the three m
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> Steve, this discussion started when you announced you
> were convinced the evidence that Vaj had been "a very
> active participant in the TMO" was "irrefutable" or
> "beyond a reasonable doubt."
>
> (He himself told you, BTW, that he h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> You participated in that discussion, BTW. Here's what
> you had to say about Vaj back then (#274447):
>
> "The thing I have noticed about Vaj, is that sometimes the
> follow up is absent when contradicting evidence is presented
> which
What is even more funny is how long this thread is going with Ravi's name on
it, and he can't post until Friday! LMAO!
Hi Ravi,
I kind of let the Turq know you were his secret admirer, without giving a name.
Hope you do not mind. ; )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> > since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay even 'enlightened'
> > ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj did TM or not? We have enough
> > information about TM right?
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> > I find several points -on TM - where I agree with him, and he exhibits
> > knowledge, obviously others are missing out.
>
> What points would those be?
>
For example points about the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> >
> > Hmm,
> >
> > since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay
> > even 'enlightened' ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj
> > did TM or not? We have enough
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as
> I was driving home from more errands. For the most part, I
> think Vaj does reply to his critics.
And why should he? I'll wait.
> Exceptions would be you and Jim. And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> Why not just get off the fence? It'll feel like a "new morning".;-)
Haha, I am not 'new morning' (nice guess, I liked new morning). There are
reasons I like to stay anonymous. And in this case, it also means to not give
away old scr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> Do not other's here adore and eulogize TM and Maharishi
> in an overly romantic way, while stating simultaneausly
> it is the most deceptive way, the devil invented?
Only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
> Judy, my rules of engagement are different, probably from yours.
> (I mean, I guess that's pretty obvious). But I am not likely to
> push someone too hard for details. Certainly I may be curious,
> but if I detect there is some resis
Today, I feel like I got a clearer picture of Vaj's affiliation with the
TMO. And I stated what that conclusion is a few posts back. As far as
proof, I have nothing more or less than anyone else here. My reference
was just to Vaj's desire to maintain the confidentiality of information
that was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > So Steve, that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > It is entirely possible that Vaj could have gleaned or picked up
> > > particula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > It is entirely possible that Vaj could have gleaned or picked up
> > particulars about TM and Robin's group from reading materials or
> > from discussing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > So Steve, that's three highly iffy statements from Vaj in
> > > a single brief post. Typ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Vaj, has you have always replied when I have
> > brought up a question in a sincere fashion.
>
> He sincerely wants you to believe h
Why not just get off the fence? It'll feel like a "new morning".;-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> Hmm,
>
> since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay even 'enlightened'
> ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj did TM or not? We have enough
> inform
ok, thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> I wasn't referring to you R., that's why I said "other [unspecified]
posters".
>
ok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> Well please keep in mind I don't always read all posts, so don't take
it personally if I do not. It probably just means I'm busy doing
something else.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> > since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay
> > even 'enlightened' ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj
> > did TM or not? We have enough information about TM right?
>
> W
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> I find several points -on TM - where I agree with him, and he exhibits
> knowledge, obviously others are missing out.
What points would those be?
I think these points are valid. I find it curious though, that he persists in
making this claim while so many disbelieve him, and that includes me. There are
many other paths people have traveled, and success for those seems to have been
attained for some of those that have persisted on those pa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> Hmm,
>
> since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay
> even 'enlightened' ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj
> did TM or not? We have enough information about TM right?
> There are, just to cite an example many TMers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> wrote:
> >
> > This message following from the archive seems to be a
> > reference to Vaj's TM knowledge. As I have been on the forum
> > for only less than a year, t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
wrote:
>
> This message following from the archive seems to be a
> reference to Vaj's TM knowledge. As I have been on the forum
> for only less than a year, this is before my knowledge of who
> what writing what about whom. So doubt
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay even 'enlightened'
> ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj did TM or not? We have enough
> information about TM right?
When a major disruption comes up, like the recent national airing
Hmm,
since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay even 'enlightened' ones,
of what importance is it, that Vaj did TM or not? We have enough information
about TM right? There are, just to cite an example many TMers here, who will
swear that TM is the best spiritual technique, without
> > But I believe Vaj himself has helped clear up that mystery.
>
> Oh? And how has he managed to do that, if I may ask?
Just to fill in the blanks, once and for all:
When he was in the seventh grade, Vaj had his mom drive him to the TM center
once for a free cookie (She wouldn't get out of the
This message following from the archive seems to be a reference to Vaj's TM
knowledge. As I have been on the forum for only less than a year, this is
before my knowledge of who what writing what about whom. So doubt about Vaj
seems to go back some time, more than half a decade.
I have removed s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
> > You have seen through his contrived crucifixion; but have you
> > understand why he is determined not to prove that he is telling
> > the truth about himself?
>
> Is this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> It is entirely possible that Vaj could have gleaned or picked up
> particulars about TM and Robin's group from reading materials or
> from discussing these particulars with other people. And in
> light what he mentioned a short time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > So Steve, that's three highly iffy statements from Vaj in
> > a single brief post. Typical, in my observation.
> >
> Well thanks. That's pretty good work. The part I fou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Vaj, has you have always replied when I have
> brought up a question in a sincere fashion.
He sincerely wants you to believe his reply, that's for
sure.
Did all the details in his first paragraph convince you
he
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:37 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > So Steve, that's three highly iffy statements from Vaj in
> > a single brief post. Typical, in my observation.
> >
> Well thanks. That's pretty good work. The part I found odd was th
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:11 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Vaj, has you have always replied when I have brought up
> a question in a sincere fashion.
Well please keep in mind I don't always read all posts, so don't take it
personally if I do not. It probably just means I'm busy doi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> So Steve, that's three highly iffy statements from Vaj in
> a single brief post. Typical, in my observation.
>
Well thanks. That's pretty good work. The part I found odd was that he
said that I, (Ray) had been deleting posts for months
It is entirely possible that Vaj could have gleaned or picked up
particulars about TM and Robin's group from reading materials or from
discussing these particulars with other people. And in light what he
mentioned a short time ago, it may be that this the case.
What I am saying is that Vaj, has
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