Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-22 Thread Emily Reyn
Yep.  Ann, this was a marvelous statement on your part.   From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   Awesome

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a fraud-- Objectively, I have have been forced to conclude that Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread oxcart49
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Awesome dear Ann, I have to say I enjoyed Judy's analysis too - it was really beautiful, like you say clear intellectual poetry - how she picked King Baby Barry apart. Now, now Ravi, just appreciate Judy's post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a fraud-- Objectively, I have have been forced to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a fraud-- Objectively, I have have been forced to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread awoelflebater
@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:57 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@... wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Why not? Is this your subjective or objective judgement?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: You know, there was a time when I believed that Maharishi was the greatest person ever, after Sage Vyasa and Adi Sankara. I had the same ecstatic belief. It was a period of innocense. It got destroyed when it joined FFL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) --- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. authfriend: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! This is a fib - there's no way you could know if Jason can handle the TRUTH. LoL! (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Sorry, couldn't resist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Jason
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! (Sorry,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! Either could I! [Blog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. --- authfriend authfriend@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: snip Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the 'truth' is for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote: His philosophy is his own, not borrowed, first of all, as Barry would know if he'd been reading Robin's posts. Second, given that he has concluded Maharishi was fundamentally a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: He attained a First Class at Cambridge [that means a lot more than you know]. He lived in Maharishi's ashram in Rishikesh. He knew Maharishi probably as well as anyone. He is a very smart and thoughtful person--he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Michael Jackson
Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: He attained a First Class at Cambridge [that means a lot more than you know]. He lived in Maharishi's ashram in Rishikesh. He knew Maharishi probably as well as anyone. He is a very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread awoelflebater
Dear Judy, I think you and I were the only ones that knew where that line really came from. Jack, when he shouted that, conveyed the best of who Nicholson is as an actor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Dear Judy, I think you and I were the only ones that knew where that line really came from. Jack, when he shouted that, conveyed the best of who Nicholson is as an actor. I really liked that second sentence. ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Dear Judy, I think you and I were the only ones that knew where that line really came from. Gee, I'd be surprised if that were the case. It's become something of a meme. I hear people imitating it all the time. Jack,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-21 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Dear Judy, I think you and I were the only ones that knew where that line really came from. Gee, I'd be surprised if that were the case. It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Jason
But that does not mean that you are wrong. You may very well have diagnosed me perfectly--but I doubt it. Robin, it's these kind of statements that worry me. You sometimes imply that you 'were' enlightened and sometimes you imply that you were passing yourself as enlightened. Sometimes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Share Long
lamb to the slaughter Jason, time to round up all those fierce warriors of yours... From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Jason
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: lamb to the slaughter Jason, time to round up all those fierce warriors of yours... From: Jason jedi_spock@... Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: But that does not mean that you are wrong. You may very well have diagnosed me perfectly--but I doubt it. Robin, it's these kind of statements that worry me. You sometimes imply that you 'were' enlightened and sometimes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread oxcart49
an explanation. Should I be ducking and running for cover? From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   But that does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread authfriend
with her on that. For her, it would be as if she had to gaze into someone's eyes, and we know she doesn't like to do that. From: Jason jedi_spock@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 5:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Emily Reyn
Ha ha ha.  That's pretty funny actually.   From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread authfriend
@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: But that does not mean that you are wrong. You may very well have diagnosed me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Ravi Chivukula
. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: But that does not mean that you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Emily Reyn
in it is intriguing.   From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:57 PM, authfriend authfri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip Taking you at your word in this rant Robin's post to raunchy was in no way a rant. and in others, about your willingness to see yourself from points of view other than your own, I'm curious as to how you'll react to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread awoelflebater
Logic and analysis can be beautiful, crystalline and pure. When it is thus, there is a kind of gorgeousness manifest, a cleansing akin to what happens to the air after a thunderstorm accompanied by a downpour. It is what is often missing when communication is muddied with circuitous argument,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-20 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Awesome dear Ann, I have to say I enjoyed Judy's analysis too - it was really beautiful, like you say clear intellectual poetry - how she picked King Baby Barry apart. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:35 PM, awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Logic and analysis can be beautiful,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread turquoiseb
Dear Robin, For some reason, possibly the result of reading about compassion and deciding to subject myself to one of your rants *out* of compassion, I actually read the post below. Taking you at your word in this rant and in others, about your willingness to see yourself from points of view

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread turquoiseb
Running my own text through the Synopsizer I and others have often wished you would employ :-), I think I can come up with a much more concise view of my thesis: It seems to me that another way of viewing the Robin Carlsen Story is as the multi-decade reaction of one man to having been rejected

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread khazana108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: I have decided that Maharishi was more seductive and entrancing and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: That's all. Do with the feedback what you will. I'm outa here... Out for a beer and rejoysing in the thought of your favorite politician, the Dolly Lama soon coming to Holland ?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Share Long
. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   Running my own text through the Synopsizer I and others have often wished you would employ :-), I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Barry, I think, contrary to what I would have expected, you have raised some significant points here. I am not sure how I would go about answering you. I have had, up until reading your post today, a certain way of seeing myself and the world. Perhaps in some sense, that has been altered

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread oxcart49
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's all. Do with the feedback what you will. I'm outa here... Out for a beer and rejoysing Is that like singing joy redux? in the thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread oxcart49
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   Running my own text through the Synopsizer I and others have often wished you would employ :-), I think I can come up with a much more concise view of my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Barry, Do not think I have closed off myself to the possibility that you have said some interesting things to me, Barry. If you think I am so stupid not to consider that you might be directing me towards some truth, then *you* are stupid. I am just not that stupid. I think that almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread oxcart49
Just a couple of small observations here from little old oxcart: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Dear Robin, For some reason, possibly the result of reading about compassion and deciding to subject myself to one of your rants *out* of compassion, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Barry, I have read your post to Robin this morning. I like it. It feels good. And I think there is a lot of truth there--But you know that Robin will never really take it in. I mean you must know this by your very analysis! He can't afford to see that what you have said is true, Barry.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Buck
go that far? -Buck From: khazana108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Dear Robin, For some reason, possibly the result of reading about compassion and deciding to subject myself to one of your rants *out* of compassion, I actually read the post below. Taking you at your word in this rant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: That's all. Do with the feedback what you will. I'm outa here...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Michael Jackson
certainly was neither. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread mjackson74
for the capitalized 'Good'? Do you go that far? -Buck From: khazana108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Share Long
...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   Running my own text through the Synopsizer I and others have often wished you would employ :-), I think I can come up with a much more concise

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@... wrote: Just a couple of small observations here from little old oxcart: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Dear Robin, 5. Have you ever considered the possibility that one of the reasons you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-19 Thread oxcart49
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@ wrote: Just a couple of small observations here from little old oxcart: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Dear Robin,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread Share Long
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits I really love what Alex says about WD gazing.  AND for me it felt too top down when it was teachers and mentors being the gazers and everyone else being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: I think a lot of us had this same experience with Maharishi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: I think a lot of us had this same experience with Maharishi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread khazana108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: I have decided that Maharishi was more seductive and entrancing and enthralling than the most beautiful woman in the world--the spiritual substituting here for the erotic. And yet for all that, I believe Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread khazana108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: The real turning point, however, raunchy, came when my best friend (although he was not at this time) demonstrated to me that my perception of a matter concerning myself was incorrect, and that his perception of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread khazana108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: I had to do violence to myself through my own will to break my bond with Maharishi, raunchy. But what Maharishi made possible for me to pass through, that has left me with an experience of myself and an experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread Share Long
: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   Yes there is more than one way of giving shaktipat. My teacher knows a remote technique too but hasn't taught me it. If you can find the movie Holy Smoke by Jane Campion (it's up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread oxcart49
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: I have decided that Maharishi was more seductive and entrancing and enthralling than the most beautiful woman in the world--the spiritual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Jackson
. From: khazana108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread turquoiseb
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits I really love what Alex says about WD gazing.  AND for me it felt too top down when it was teachers and mentors being the gazers and everyone else being the gazees.  It felt more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: In my tradition shaktipat is given by touch. A lot of other traditions do it this way. Did you know that Maharishi also gave shaktipat when he first taught meditation? Maharishi did that to the end, mainly by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread Share Long
Setting the record straight:  the comment about shaktipat by touch was made by Bhairitu.  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Setting the record straight:  the comment about shaktipat by touch was made by Bhairitu. Yes, that would explain it :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: In my tradition shaktipat is given by touch. A lot of other traditions do it this way. Did you know that Maharishi also gave shaktipat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread marekreavis
I think a lot of us had this same experience with Maharishi. That's why his own recounting of his first exposure to Guru Dev had such resonance; we could relate to it in a visceral way. Not everyone did, of course, but it sure set the hook for a lot of dedicated service that followed. *** ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: I think a lot of us had this same experience with Maharishi. That's why his own recounting of his first exposure to Guru Dev had such resonance; we could relate to it in a visceral way. Not everyone did, of course,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread Share Long
Thanks, makes me chuckle even with second viewing (-: From: oxcart49 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
feste37: The structure of Waking Down is somewhat curious, though... 'Waking Down' (WD) is derived from the same source as the 'Neo-Advaitins'. Notions of being all of who we are, 'unity', 'awakening', to the fullness of your own nature, being united in the here-and-now, are pages straight

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: feste37: The structure of Waking Down is somewhat curious, though... 'Waking Down' (WD) is derived from the same source as the 'Neo-Advaitins'. Notions of being all of who we are, 'unity', 'awakening', to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: In my tradition shaktipat is given by touch. A lot of other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread Bhairitu
. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits Bhairitu wrote: In my tradition shaktipat is given by touch

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2012-10-17 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: I think a lot of us had this same experience with Maharishi. That's why his own recounting of his first exposure to Guru Dev had such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: To have surrendered to Maharishi as God; then to have fought to destroy his power over one's own consciousness: This is a process I don't recommend, but it is a process which has left me with a legacy of ecstasy,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: At the grocery store just a few moments ago I just heard from a brother of a Raja here that Saniel Bonder founder of waking up is in Fairfield with an open meeting for folks tonite at 7pm hosted at the McElhaney. I's just calls it like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread feste37
And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which may or may not be helpful to some people. I have heard him twice, and can't say I have been overwhelmingly impressed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which may or may not be helpful to some people. I have heard him twice, and can't say I have been overwhelmingly impressed. Yep, goes with the territory.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which may or may not be helpful to some people. Waking Down is a small, niche path that is certainly not for everyone. I have heard him twice, and can't say I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread Share Long
it (-:  From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: And it cost $20

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2012-10-16 Thread Bhairitu
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which may or may not be helpful

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread Share Long
.  From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   What is the gazing? I've been taught to give shaktipat by my tantra guru but it doesn't involve any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread authfriend
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   What is the gazing? I've been taught to give shaktipat by my tantra guru but it doesn't involve any gazing. Sometimes I wonder if these people had any authentic teacher or just some charlatan from India. There are probably more than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread raunchydog
  From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   What is the gazing? I've been taught to give shaktipat by my tantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread authfriend
and children and a medical practice.  From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits   What is the gazing

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2012-10-16 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: What was uncomfortable for you about making eye contact, Share?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits

2012-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@

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