[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist No chance they will announce themselves here. I don't know any former teachers in Colorado or Washington where it is currently legal to use. In most states it is still illegal and by many former TM teachers seen as a form

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, 2015 3:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm not talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos). Previously, I considered

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
while the fakers slip out the back with their daughters. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke  The only

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread aryavazhi
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Then you were proly smoking a chara. Yes, chara Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bevan has crowed for years about the lack of drug problem on campus. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke   Once

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
4, 2015 9:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke   While some Shaivas do it because they totally buy the mythology of Shiva liking bhang, not all Shaivas smoke charas or drink bhang. No doubt those sadhu that do it have their own declarations about their bhang

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the elephants coat the skin to protect it from insects etc. I am talking about M's analogy. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
but were just not aware of. Like getting off of the moving train and jumping back on. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke   so lets have those mythical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 10:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke   so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist and say if they are really

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke    Hear here. I'm a *former* governor. I was forced into retirement a few years ago due to and advanced state of Ankylosing Spondylitis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could care less if the *active* teachers smoke. I gave that up way back

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for linking Tolstoy's article. Although I accept the gist of what he's claiming I have a few caveats: His warnings against smoking tobacco seem overblown. Plenty of industrious, virtuous individuals enjoyed a pipe: Spinoza, Freud, Einstein, . . . In the same manner the seeing,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke  You posted as if you were speaking of active TM teachers.  Here you mention a former TM teacher

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread salyavin808
: Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm not talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos). Previously, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke  You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet.  That's for initiates. ;-) On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:      Though the word Guru mantra (note) contains

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm not talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos). Previously, I considered this primarily a result of techniques that focused primarily upon the surface

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey, you are all not getting it. I ain't talking about Marlboro's but weed, mary jane, ganja, smoke. Re-read the first post and then reconsider your reply.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread aryavazhi
I got that. Many Sadhus do this, almost all Shaivas. I asked them, if they didn't think that this was opposed to meditation, but was told that this is 'a helper of meditations'. One of my very few exposures to weed was when the pipe was going around, at a Sadhus place, and I inhaled in order to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Hey, you are all not getting it. I ain't talking about Marlboro's but weed, mary jane, ganja, smoke. Re-read the first post and then reconsider your reply. Dope is another word for it. Re-read my reply, I quit it instantly. One

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Then you were proly smoking a chara. Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Charas is the name given to a hashish form of cannabis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Why didn't you just say ganja then. You were being abstruse. On 01/04/2015 01:09 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hey, you are all not getting it. I ain't talking about Marlboro's but weed, mary jane, ganja, smoke. Re-read the first post and then reconsider your reply.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Smoke is the current euphemism. But you didn't proffer an answer or explanation to the question.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Smoke is the current euphemism. But you didn't proffer an answer or explanation to the question. My bet is that those who enjoy smoking dope do so because they enjoy changing their state of attention, and whatever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread srijau
the ancient Shen Nong said that Marijuana is among the highest herbs for constant consumption and leads to making the body light and to the perception of spirit light, but this modern author says most people are harmed by their marijuana consumption because they don't know how to balance its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The only reason I ever got from being in India is that it was a part of some paths sadhana. I didn't ask what they thought they got out of it. Maybe it just calms them more and provides deeper experiences. But those who are a bit kapha wouldn't need that. On 01/04/2015 04:15 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Once again let's go back to the original question - I know TM teachers who smoke. Considering their long-time experience doing TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj techniques (or both), why do they feel the need to do some smoke? Answers I have heard: 1. my meditation experience went flat. 2.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
KanaVape is a new cannabis e-cig (vape device) that's just come out. It does not have any THC so doesn't make you high but is supposed to relax you. Let me know if any of you try it and find it beneficial! http://kanavape.com/ http://kanavape.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread ldlaw...@comcast.net [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
While some Shaivas do it because they totally buy the mythology of Shiva liking bhang, not all Shaivas smoke charas or drink bhang. No doubt those sadhu that do it have their own declarations about their bhang Litemint. However, the question is about TM teachers now doing smoke and the reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
You actually know of any TM teachers doing smoke? The only reason I can think is that they live in a state like Washington or Colorado and treat it like some would an alcoholic drink not because of it being some sacrament. On 01/04/2015 06:08 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
very much reality. -- Original Message -- From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: January 4, 2015 at 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke Once again let's go back to the original question - I know TM teachers

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson sez: I was just reading a posting on BrainPickings.org discussing an essay by Tolstoy, Why do Men Stupefy Themselves, which suggests that use of drugs, etc., is to stifle the voice of the conscience in order not to be aware of the discord between one's way of life and the demands of

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke

2015-01-04 Thread srijau
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist and say if they are really or if it about their osteoarthritis pain or what have you.