The famous/infamous Tertullian (150-220 AD.) said:
Prorsus credibile est, quia ineptum est.
It is certain because it is impossible. De Carne Christi (5.4)
What a fitting tribute to Barry –
Who believes in not believing
Who believes it to be true that there is no such thing as truth
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
What I don't understand -- on either the believers' side or the
atheists' side -- is this compulsion to defend their faith, or their
lack thereof. It seems *completely* ego-driven to me, almost as insane
as someone declaring that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
The famous/infamous Tertullian (150-220 AD.) said:
Prorsus credibile est, quia ineptum est.
It is certain because it is impossible. De Carne Christi (5.4)
What a fitting tribute to Barry --
Who believes in not believing
Who believes it
Yeah, it didn't take Barry very long to try and drive this thread to the
outhouse. Go figure.
On 10/22/2013 8:15 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
What I don't understand -- on either the believers' side or the
atheists' side --
Re Judy and I assent to the ideas because I have the feelings; I don't have
the feelings because I've assented to the ideas, and Spufford refers to
Christians making truth claims,
That contrast between ideas and feelings is misleading. I expect that when
most people talk about faith they're
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
wrote:
Yeah, it didn't take Barry very long to try and
drive this thread to the outhouse. Go figure.
Wow. No *wonder* Willytex is in such a bad mood
so much of the time. He has to *drive* to his
outhouse. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
As intuitions are personal isn't Barry making a fair point
to stress that you can't compel others to adopt your view
so it's counter-productive to rabbit on about it.
Not to mention DUMB. :-)
He mentions the first arrival of Europeans in Japan.
It sure didn't take Barry long to drive this thread to the shit house.
Go figure.
On 10/22/2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
punditster@... wrote:
Yeah, it didn't take Barry very long to try and
drive this thread to the outhouse.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Re When the Portuguese and Spanish missionaries arrived
in Japan and found that the heathens had no fuckin'
interest in what these smelly furriners were trying to sell
them, they *often* resorted to violence. The Portuguese
missionaries
Re the information in question came from JAPANESE history books:
What! Like the denials of wartime atrocities by the Imperial Army in China and
elsewhere?
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Re the information in question came from JAPANESE history books:
What! Like the denials of wartime atrocities by the Imperial Army
in China and elsewhere?
History is written by the winners.
- axiomatic saying often misattributed to Winston
BTW, just to continue riffing on the Japanese thang, which you
seem more interested in, some might take offense at my frequent
reference to the smelly barbarians from Europe who were the
first such people from Europe the Japanese had ever seen.
That's because you don't get how big a deal smelly
Re And, to their credit, these monks were *honest*. They wrote down *exactly*
what was presented into evidence, including the statements of the Cathars,:
That's right. The lack of surviving info gives novelists and film-makers a
field day for their imaginations to run riot.
Another
Re Atheists, you'll be happy to know, is spelled correctly in the article.:
Indeed - but only after a reader's comment alerted the sub editor to the error!
Yes, I understand Francis Spufford's exasperation with Dawkins and co. Of
course, part of the problem Christians have with the New
What I don't understand -- on either the believers' side or the
atheists' side -- is this compulsion to defend their faith, or their
lack thereof. It seems *completely* ego-driven to me, almost as insane
as someone declaring that their view -- and only their view -- of
vaccination is RIGHT, and
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