Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-20 Thread Zoran Krneta
Brahman alone is real, this world is unreal; the Jiva is identical with Brahman. That would be Advaita philosophy but part of that statement is argument which is used by mayavada philosophers. Shankara introduced concept of maya or illusion of the world and with that he actually introduced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
The Shankara Acharya composed the following works: Bhashyas on Brahma Sutras... Zoran wrote: According to George Thibaut Ramunuja's commentary of Brahma Sutras is giving more accurate explanation of what Vyasa said, but Thibaut also added that Shankara's views are closer to Upanishad

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-20 Thread Zoran Krneta
Maybe so, but the TMer tradition follows the Adwaita tradition of Shankaracharya... You may believe that Shankara's advaita is right one, but that philosophy suffers from many inconsistencies. Shakara on many places did not put a comment on Vyasa's sutras rather he introduced and forced his own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-20 Thread Kirk
Shankar's tradition which TMers are following is tradition which came from Lord Vishnu (Narayana)... Shankara's gurus were Vaishnavs. Later on it turned to be everything else including tradition of Shri... --Absolutely not so. Shri as bride of Vishnu has always been the glorious source of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya might only need to familiarize yer self with the basic phonemic units of Sanskrit to be able to notice that it rocks! But, of course, YMMV! ;) Vowels: a, aa, i, ii, u, uu, R, RR, L, e, ai, o, au Consonants

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread gyselsvishnu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Ya might only need to familiarize yer self with the basic phonemic units of Sanskrit to be able to notice that it rocks! But, of course,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Peter
No, I'm not suggesting that. What I suggest is a cup of hot chai for this go nowhere purely in vain conversation! --- Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are suggesting that there is a Brahman on one side which can be known through transcendental knowledge and on the other side is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my teachers, Swami Premananda, a native Tamil speaker, claims that Tamil developed out of the experience of Amrita in the throat. THE Swami Premananda who Benjamin Creme claims to be the heir to the throne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would that be the Throne of the King of Pedophilia? I don't know. But perhaps that's just the kind of imaginary dark Court that would be perfect for you.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:37 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics --- In HYPERLINK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread gyselsvishnu
I won't go into polemics regarding Premananda. A few points: he is in no way associated with Sai Baba. He seems to appreciate Ammachi much more than Sai Baba. He is in jail at the moment but it is all politics. Having followed the 'case' at close hand, he was not involved in any criminal act,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread gyselsvishnu
Yes, indeed the Benjamin Creme Premananda but Premananda is in no way associated with Creme or endorse his views. Once we were discussing Maitryea. Without overhearing us, Premananda passed by and said: Maitreya is in your heart. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't go into polemics regarding Premananda. A few points: he is in no way associated with Sai Baba. Yet another who appears to know The Truth. I wish I was like you, how simple everything would be :-) Swami

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread gyselsvishnu
- I don´t pretend to know the truth but accusations of rape and murder happening in a small ashram commumity where the guru lived a completely open and public life,allways in the lime light very few eye witnesses buy this. And the association with Sai Baba only exists in mr. Creme´s mind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I don´t pretend to know the truth but accusations of rape and murder happening in a small ashram commumity where the guru lived a completely open and public life,allways in the lime light very few eye

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Zoran wrote: You are suggesting that there is a Brahman on one side which can be known through transcendental knowledge and on the other side is everything else like ego, mind, senses... etc. According to Shankara, we can only know Brahman through transcendental knowledge; everything else

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote: No, I'm not suggesting that. What I suggest is a cup of hot chai for this go nowhere purely in vain conversation! In vain because you don't understand the basic tenets of Indian philosophy? Maybe you should just stick to subjects you know something about, such as repressed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote: Brahman is known to Brahman. It has not been established that there is a category, Brahman - that's just a theory found described in the Indian scriptures. There is no scientific foundation for supposing that there is a 'Brahman' that actually exists somewhere. Brahman, as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Zoran Krneta
According to Shankara, we can only know Brahman through transcendental knowledge; everything else experienced through the senses is an appearance only. If you are standing for Advaita it can't be Brahman and everyting else, that's mayavada platform... Mayavadins are not pur monists. Brahman

[FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
According to Shankara, we can only know Brahman through transcendental knowledge; everything else experienced through the senses is an appearance only. Zoran wrote: They are representing diferent schools of advaita. Only Madhva stands for pure dualism, Vallabaha - pure monism,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics

2008-02-18 Thread Zoran Krneta
You are suggesting that there is a Brahman on one side which can be known through transcendental knowledge and on the other side is everything else like ego, mind, senses... etc. What kind of Brahman is that which doesn't include everything and can not be the object of gross perception? Seems you