[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was interesting Jim. So it may be hard to relate to someone who lacks this ability to draw things as they appear. So maybe you can help me with this question: After you have the ability to realistically represent things on paper, what is it that allows someone to interpret what they see

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did, as part of a class she is taking, where she was restricted to just six colors in her palate. It is just as you describe, abstracted

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did, as part of a class she is taking, where she was restricted to just

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated trip to the museum as a sketch expert has a funny connection for me. My late uncle (not by blood unfortunately) was Joe Jones who is

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Great question, regarding abstract representation!! Love it - My stepsister is an artist, primarily painting, and she just send me a self portrait that she did,

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here you really hit my own visual artist limits. I don't get Pollock at all. But on the other hand, I can't remember if I ever stood in front of one of his originals. I need to go down to the National Modern Art museum in DC to see if I can be nudged into appreciating him. Thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated trip to the museum as a sketch expert has a funny connection for me. My

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Yep - I totally get the intellectual vs full appreciation - same way for me with Davis and Coltrane, and er...John Cage.:-) Yeah, the east wing of the national gallery -- Pollock is there, along with amazing Matisse, scary de Kooning, and those weightless mobiles by Calder --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Well as you know, the rich have always been the patrons of the arts. They certainly were for my uncle during his life. And think of the Medici family in Florence! They practically single-highhandedly financed Renaissance art. Snowmass sounds like a great place to hang, I have never been

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Looks EXACTLY like my previous commute!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Well as you know, the rich have always been the patrons of the arts. They certainly were for my uncle during his life. And think of the Medici family in Florence! They practically

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here is a whimsical sketch he made for a friend that you may relate to as a married man: http://pbfineart.com/jjones/bed_600_417.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Hey Steve, thanks for the reply. I agree that FFL is a great place to be inspired to write daily. I used it that way for years. Your story about the ill fated

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Buck, I thought you could appreciate his dedication to depicting the working Mid-Western farmer in his daily toil. He was drawn to the honest laborer,loved the Mid West, and felt this class of person was not getting a fair shake in the capitalist system, even though they were doing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread merudanda
Hiroshige's oeuvre was Van Gogh's main reference to the extent that all the scenes and landscapes painted by Van Gogh from 1887 onward are direct or indirect references to Hiroshige's art. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETfTMWDgic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETfTMWDgic I am sure you are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie

2013-01-27 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/26/2013 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/26/2013 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Wow, I did not know that about them. Yup, they were found, and then introduced to each other, and then trained carefully, by Albert Grossman. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-27 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Well as you know, the rich have always been the patrons of the arts. They certainly were for my uncle during his life. And think of the Medici family in Florence! They practically single-highhandedly financed Renaissance art.

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
Excellent rap. I, too, missed the essential parts of education that can teach one how to draw, or that one can. The fact that I can use words to create art (or as close to it as I want to get) is directly due to a few teachers who conveyed their sense of word-magic to me, and taught me how to use

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread Susan
Wow, have fun. I think in schools the curriculum even for art is pretty much set. And it does not involve spending loads of time in any one unit. Also, kids get graded, to some extent, on their work, so that adds a layer of tension. But you are right, this time to draw and experiment, with

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
It makes me wonder how much of education is just giving kids with a natural inclination a track to run on rather than educating everyone up to a certain level of competence in everything. What is interesting to me is how persistent these self limiting ideas about ourselves are. Some of it may

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
Yeah, you nailed it. I am still hopeful that the new direction of brain research is gunna send schools running back to the arts. MRI's don't lie! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, have fun. I think in schools the curriculum even for art is pretty much set. And it

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie

2013-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Wow, I did not know that about them. Yup, they were found, and then introduced to each other, and then trained carefully, by Albert Grossman. He was, possibly not coincidentally, the driving force behind the success of Bob Dylan,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie

2013-01-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/26/2013 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Wow, I did not know that about them. Yup, they were found, and then introduced to each other, and then trained carefully, by Albert Grossman. He was, possibly not coincidentally, the

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2013-01-26 Thread Michael Jackson
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…   It makes me wonder how much of education is just giving kids with a natural

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was fascinating! Such a different path. But since you are a musician too it shows that wee do have the capacity for both. I'll check out the writing book. I'm sure it has been in my hands but I never worked through it. The idea that drawing can open up more nonverbal creativity

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread doctordumbass
arm raised, at my desk, Curtis! uh...OKUh, Jim had his hand up first... Anyway, I was one of those talented kids with art. I could look at something and just begin drawing it, as it looked, starting at age ten or so. It has always come naturally, also sculpture, and wood carving, although

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread turquoiseb
Just to riff on this further, since you mentioned Van Gogh, one of the most fascinating juxtapositions in the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam is a room in which a couple of paintings created by Van Gogh when he was an art student are displayed side by side with the examples he was supposed to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
That is really fascinating! Thanks for posting this. I am looking forward to discovering my own personal style as I develop as I have in music. I am a long way from that but retrospectively I may see what I was drawn to. I loved the energy in the paint swirls in the Van Gogh museum. That

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread seventhray27
Hey Curtis, Thanks for the share. A couple things come to mind. A couple times I've thought I had a book in me. I guess, I still do. But I remember hearing an interview with an author on a call in show and someone calling in with this same questions. The question put to the caller was, how many

[FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread seventhray27
The thing is that I've seen so many people that just have the innate ability. I had a grade school classmate who was exceptional from about the first grade. And my high school friend just had it. That is what I always found discouraging. My best work was in ceramics, but I always, always,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…

2013-01-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/26/2013 01:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: That was fascinating! Such a different path. But since you are a musician too it shows that wee do have the capacity for both. I'll check out the writing book. I'm sure it has been in my hands but I never worked through it. The idea that