---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I agree. Even worse Barry equates his denial, with non-attachment, and thus
convinces himself of his spiritual progress. However, he is making it
increasingly clear, on here, by his overheated attempts at retribution,
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How many TM practitioners on Fairfield City
Agreed - good analogy, too.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I agree. Even worse Barry equates his denial, with non-attachment, and thus
convinces himself of his spiritual progress.
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing
Other Teachers'
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On 6/4/2014 6:27 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Don't you guys who oppose this thing think it might be a mighty good
idea to find out where the TM council members including the mayor
stand? And especially MUM? Even tho its a university the fact that
they are
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Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would be useful to get some
collaboration for some of these recollections
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That may have been what YOU heard Lawson but I am reporting what he told me
personally and he knew I was married at the time. I asked him
, as you say.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Rereading, a couple points come to mind
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Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would be useful to get some
collaboration for some of these recollections. As an informant, Barry, one
must ask
, his own POV. You push buttons, you get your own
buttons pushed. End of story, as you say.
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.
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]
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Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would be useful to get some
collaboration for some of these recollections. As an informant, Barry, one
must ask if you have a vested interest in skewing things in a particular way.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I write what I write, and you react the way you react. End of story.
And I wasn't even writing about you. Just some guy you once gave time and
money to.
I don't see that I owe you anything more just because something I
On 6/2/2014 9:51 PM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
C'mon Richard, you can do better than that. At least try and be clever.
Let me rephrase what I wrote:
If I was screwing a gal in my bedroom on my bed, and the skin boy was
watching from the couch, then I'd say the skin boy
I think you really pushed Barry's buttons here, Steve.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Oh, God, I can't resist. How's this? Could this be your motto.
I don't get my buttons pushed. I'm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
I think you really pushed Barry's buttons here, Steve.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Oh, God, I can't resist. How's this?
say.
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Rereading, a couple points come to mind
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Teachers'
I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement predated mine.
I had the opportunity to see MMY personally many times, but usually
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I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement predated mine.
I had the opportunity
by Maharishi.
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I just skimmed this, and want
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing
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A tape of that session from Rick's TTC
Excellent point, Steve. Barry (mis)uses his shoot the messenger shtick as an
all-purpose rebuttal and excuse to dismiss a response, when in fact it rarely
applies. To shoot the messenger implies that the message is valid and that
there's no legitimate objection to it (originally, the phrase
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Excellent point, Steve. Barry (mis)uses his shoot the messenger shtick as an
all-purpose rebuttal
On 6/3/2014 12:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Interesting. Now Barry is fantasizing that he sees purple-faced
apoplexy in an empty message.
This is about the time people like Barry start getting really paranoid,
seeing things even on a blank canvas. It's probably one
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Excellent point, Steve. Barry (mis)uses his shoot the messenger shtick as
an all-purpose rebuttal and excuse to dismiss a response, when in fact it
rarely applies. To shoot the messenger
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I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement
On 6/3/2014 9:14 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have also stated my *purpose* in occasionally posting things that I
know will push these cultists' buttons. I do it to entice them to
react AS CULTISTS, and thus reveal to journalists and other lurkers
here who and what they
On 6/3/2014 8:54 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
As I said, much of what you accuse of others of being can be applied
to you as well. Nuff said.
Gotta go.
For some basic-TMers, Barry *IS* the TMO. Go figure.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
I think you really pushed Barry's buttons here, Steve.
I think he should change his name, to Barry Buttons.
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On 6/3/2014 3:10 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Has anyone asked the Heartland folks why they want to locate the
facility in that particular location? It is so close to town, it seems
logical to locate it in a more rural location.
Close to town? That's
I just find it odd, that Barry seems to feel he has monopoly on this button
pushing thing. I guess you can define having your buttons pushed, in number
of different ways.
A person says something you disagree with, and you respond. Did you just get
your buttons pushed?
Somebody says
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other
Teachers'
I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement predated mine.
I had the opportunity to see MMY personally many times, but usually not in a
small group
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I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement predated mine
Look, I like Barry. I really do, but how bout, Barry Bilbo Baggins Edward
Snowden Wright!
P.S. I am one who really likes nicknames.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In
I don't think Barry is even aware of it when his buttons have been pushed. It's
a kind of denial. Just in general, Barry is seriously deficient in
self-knowledge; he can't see his own patterns that are so obvious to the rest
of us.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote
Why Bilbo Baggins? Do you suspect Barry of having hairy feet? I would like to
work Walter Mitty in there, somehow...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Look, I like Barry. I really do, but how bout, Barry Bilbo Baggins Edward
Snowden Wright!
P.S. I am one who
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Just like the way it rolled off the tongue somehow. I think you are on the
right track with Walter though. Or how bout just Walt
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Why Bilbo Baggins? Do you suspect Barry of having hairy feet? I would like to
work Walter
On 6/3/2014 8:46 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
How many TM practitioners on Fairfield City Council besides the mayor?
And what is their position on the Heartland Coop? And what position
has MUM taken on the issue?
Please post these messages about the food
sort of like, Bilbo Barry Baggins Walter Mitty Wright? Sounds like the
beginning of a limerick...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Just like the way it rolled off the tongue somehow. I think you are on the
right track with Walter though. Or how bout just Walt
I agree. Even worse Barry equates his denial, with non-attachment, and thus
convinces himself of his spiritual progress. However, he is making it
increasingly clear, on here, by his overheated attempts at retribution, that he
is fiercely attached to getting even, which is the polar opposite of
I have never denied or tried to excuse Maharishi's edict against seeing other
teachers, and as you know I'm not a cult apologist, so you can take me right
off this list.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
To provide some counterpoint to the chorus of excuses and cult
Barry, over here for a sec, please. Just so I can record this accurately, how
long since you last interacted with Maharishi, as a member of his org? I toss
around the term 40 years, but that is strictly an approximation. Has it been
longer?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@...
I sincerely doubt the Turq interacted with Maharishi, ever.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Barry, over here for a sec, please. Just so I can record this accurately, how
long since you last interacted with Maharishi, as a member of his org? I toss
On 6/2/2014 8:31 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Barry, over here for a sec, please. Just so I can record this
accurately, how long since you last interacted with Maharishi, as a
member of his org? I toss around the term 40 years, but that is
strictly an
Well put. Further, let's not forget that his jealously was not limited to
followers seeing other teachers.
He also pushed celibacy while not practicing it himself. More for me, less for
you. Clever, I suppose.
I liked what Robert Svoboda in his BATGAP interview had to say about
celibate yogis, that they basically running around saying they're
celibate until the opportunity arises and then afterward resume saying
they are celibate. IOW, they are celibate for the moment only. :-D
On 06/02/2014 08:58
I just skimmed this, and want to read it more carefully later. Your primary
involvement predated mine.
I had the opportunity to see MMY personally many times, but usually not in a
small group, and usually not for administrative issues.
But never during my time did this issue of seeing
Eh, he may or may not have been celibate, but in fact, all *I* ever heard on
the matter from TM teachers was that Maharishi thought that celibacy was the
fastest way to attain enlightenment, but that for those who were not
comfortable with being celibate, the strain of doing something unnatural
The non-celibacy topic is a rumor put forward by Rick Archer which now has
backfired on his new guru. Not one single stable person has made such claims.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
Eh, he may or may not have been celibate, but in fact, all *I* ever heard on
Maharishi REALLY Hated Students 'Seeing Other
Teachers'
The non-celibacy topic is a rumor put forward by Rick Archer which now has
backfired on his new guru. Not one single stable person has made such claims.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
Eh, he may
On 6/2/2014 6:43 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
so anyone who says they know marshy was screwing these gals is
automatically considered by you to be unstable?
If there was anyone in MMY's bedroom to actually know that he was
screwing a gal, I'd say the
C'mon Richard, you can do better than that. At least try and be clever.
If there was anyone in MMY's bedroom to actually know that he was
screwing a gal, I'd say the voyeur was unstable, not the lovers.
That may have been what YOU heard Lawson but I am reporting what he told me
personally and he knew I was married at the time. I asked him about celibacy
and he responded it would be good to do. What I did not know at the time was
that he was sexually active with several other women during this
I don't see any contradiction in him giving you that advice.
You were a married person asking about celibacy, and he said that it would be
good to do.
How does that contradict what I heard?
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote :
That may have been what
I made a second reply to this, but I guess it got eaten.
In it, I reiterated that it would be useful to get some corroboration to some
of these recollections. I mean, Barry, would it be unrealistic to think that
your reporting might tend to be a little skewed or exaggerated?
And one must
Rereading, a couple points come to mind. It would be useful to get some
collaboration for some of these recollections. As an informant, Barry, one
must ask if you have a vested interest in skewing things in a particular way.
On the other hand, one has to ask, how well whatever path you have
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