[FairfieldLife] Prepare to feel old
Every year Beloit College publishes its Mindset List, in which it details the things that its incoming class of students take for granted, given their age: http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2013. For example: # The Green Giant has always been Shrek, not the big guy picking vegetables. # They have never used a card catalog to find a book. # Margaret Thatcher has always been a former prime minister. # Salsa has always outsold ketchup. # Earvin Magic Johnson has always been HIV-positive. # Tattoos have always been very chic and highly visible. # They have been preparing for the arrival of HDTV all their lives. # Rap music has always been main stream.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds
Geez Bill, You're listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. Just like you, Rush is frustrated that women with strong opinions who call him on his sexism won't shut the fuck up. So he puts them in his spam filter, hoping he won't feel tempted to peek. But it never fails, the allure of awesome female power grabs hold of his dick, and even though the specter of vagina dentata looms large in his awareness, he begs, yes, begs to read the feminazi's post. He envies a her power. He gets himself hard every time he repeats his piggy mantra, feminazi, feminazi, feminazi. It's an endearment, a cooing entreaty to his dominatrix lover, a lusting for the caress of her Gucci designer whip, longing for it to delicately trail the curves of his sweet butt cheeks before delivering some righteous bitch slapping. Spam filter? Ha! You can't wait to take a peek. You really do believe ignorance is bliss, don't you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: Good news and gooder news. Your reply didn't throw the big red FRAUD banner and wind up in my SPAM folder. RaunchyDog's response to me did throw up the big red FRAUD banner and wound up in my SPAM folder. Now that's righteous because though I haven't read RD's response yet, it's probably some anti-Obama femiNazi rant again. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: * * *You want scary? Your email also got a big red fraud banner and was placed in my SPAM folder.* ** Probably because the original post that triggered your spam filter was at the bottom of my previous post. I will delete that out of this post and you might find this post will not be flagged. * * *Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. * ** *- Amma* --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@...*wrote: From: It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 12:16 AM You want scary? Your email also got a big red fraud banner and was placed in my SPAM folder. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM, gullible fool ffl...@...http://us.mc327.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ffl...@... wrote: Some of the emails that have come to my yahoo email address tagged as spam have been official yahoo group emails, moderator stuff. Now that's scary. * Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma * --- On *Wed, 8/19/09, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@...http://us.mc327.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... * wrote: From: It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@...http://us.mc327.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds [1 Attachment] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc327.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 11:04 PM [Attachment(s)http://us.mc327.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1.tm=1250737764.rand=4ch0l2dl5ic7j#TopTextfrom It's just a ride included below] This post went into my SPAM folder in Gmail with the red banner. Scary. -- Ignorance is thinking you know everything. Wisdom is knowing you don't... but I may be wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM News
15 buildings in Vedic City are being moved from the original pandit site where some remaining Mother Divine and at opposite end 18 Purusha live â to the present pandit site to ease the housing crunch. Since the pandits left the MUM campus they hav e been in sardineville. Their numbers are now over over 900 with an additional 200 scheduled to arrive later this year. ** The good thing about manufactured housing is it's easy to move around -- glad they are finally able to use the housing originally earmarked for pundits for its intended purpose.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] PUBLIC OPTION
Rasmussen Reports' latest poll on health care reform shows that only 34% of voters support the current bill if the public option is removed from the bill. Even more striking, only 9% are enthusiastic in their support of the bill if it doesn't include a government-run program that will compete with private plans. Last week, when the public option was still believed to be part of the bill, 47% of voters supported passage and 26% were strongly in favor. http://snipurl.com/qkwmo http://snipurl.com/qkwmo http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/h\ ealthcare/august_2009/without_public_option_enthusiasm_for_health_care_r\ eform_especially_among_democrats_collapses http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/\ healthcare/august_2009/without_public_option_enthusiasm_for_health_care_\ reform_especially_among_democrats_collapses Without Public Option, Bottom Falls Out of Support for Obama's Health Care Initiative http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/without-public-option-bot\ tom-falls-out-of-support-for-obamas-health-care-initiative/ Posted on August 19, 2009 by bostonboomer Those 9% who still enthusiastically support Obama's plan must be either health care industry lobbyists or Obots who have drunk so much kool-aid they have permanent brain damage. As BTD points out http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/8/19/134915/473 at Talk Left, Obama is between a rock and a hard place. He now has Republicans http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/19/obama-struggles-strike-healt\ h-care-deal-palatable-sides/ , Independents, *and* Democrats http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/08/17/weiner-senate-healthcare-dea\ l-could-cost-100-house-votes/ unhappy. Republicans are now saying they won't even accept the stupid co-ops that Obama tried to bribe them with. Even the formerly loyal Obama blogs are turning against him. And get this: long-time liberal and civil libertarian Nat Hentoff says he's scared http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/hentoff081909.php3 of the Obama administration's health care goals. And yet Obama has used up vast amounts of political capital at least pretending to want to pass health care reform and trying to convince Republicans to help him do it. Yes, as myiq2xu wrote earlier today, Obama never really wanted real health care reform. But what has he accomplished by running this con game on the American people and enraging just about everyone? Does he *want* to be a one-term President? [http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/doctor20obama.jpg?w=25\ 1h=291]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
raunchydog wrote: What the heck is Obama doing talking to the faith based groups? Talking about having faith because he's a religious fundamentalist himself, having been mentored by his pastor for twenty or more years? From what I've read, Obama is a true believer who prays almost every day, so I would be surprised if he didn't talk to faith based groups. But, it would seem that a vast majority of the members of the faith based groups are opposed to many of Obama's policies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Advanced lecture Sunday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Thanks for posting this. I actually look forward to the latest knowledge posts from this group of TM-folk in the domes. Even the announcements themselves are like sutras, or threads, of a deeper knowledge. Are you posting ALL of the announcements? If you aren't I really wish someone would. They're very informative on a deep level. I realize this is a more major announcement, but I'd love to hear them all. This is great stuff for appreciating the continuing wave that is TM and the TM-Sidhi technologies of the Unified Field. Please post'em! Thanks Dick. -V. Thanks V. Made me smile :) I really think we ought to start a fund raising drive for a couples dome though JohnY On Aug 19, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Dick Mays wrote: Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Advanced lecture Sunday From: Dome Announcements owner-dom...@... Dear Meditators, Sidhas and Governors, You are cordially invited to attend the New Advanced Lecture series at the Maharishi Peace Palaces every Sunday @ 7:30PM. The Next Talk Sunday Aug 23rd will be: Eternal Bliss Consciousness: The Experience of the Attibuteless Absolute by Maharishi Aug. 27th, 1970 22 min. All meetings will begin with a group checking of the Transcendental Meditation Technique. We will be offering Advance Lectures every Sunday Evening @ 7:30 PM. We will be playing the entire series of Volume One of the New Advanced Lecture Series. (15 talks total) The Lecture Series will be offered in both the Men's Ladies Peace Palace. Everyone is Welcome in the Men's Peace Palace. ( Men, Ladies Couples) Only Ladies at the Ladies Peace Palace, please. We look forward to seeing you. Jai Guru Dev Wally DeVasier Director Maharishi Peace Palaces *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to owner-dom...@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: raunchydog wrote: What the heck is Obama doing talking to the faith based groups? Talking about having faith because he's a religious fundamentalist himself, having been mentored by his pastor for twenty or more years? From what I've read, Obama is a true believer who prays almost every day, so I would be surprised if he didn't talk to faith based groups. But, it would seem that a vast majority of the members of the faith based groups are opposed to many of Obama's policies. Oh let's not go there. Wright is safely under the bus and good riddance. Besides, folks have recently questioned whether Obama was in church very much at all. Anyway, I'm glad he's a prayerful man. So as I was saying, fundies, really? Why bother? I'm curious to know how many of the 140,000 faith basers he talked to actually voted for him or would actually get off their butts and knock for doors for him. Doubtful. Geez, come to think of it, the White House might be talking religious code! How about this: 144,000 in Heaven? Revelation Chs. 7, 14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JiPWzDF6w
[FairfieldLife] Re: PUBLIC OPTION
This is really, really not good. A heavily armed man showed up at a healthcare rally in Arizona outside the convention center where Obama was speaking. The dumber-than-a-sack-of-rocks studio crew at MSNBC used this as a jumping off point to discuss the burgeoning white racism in response to Obama's presidency: Youtube: MSNBC: Gun-Toting Protesters are 'White' Racists... Black Guy with AR-15 Edited to Conceal his Race. http://snipurl.com/ql1zi http://snipurl.com/ql1zi http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/08/20/msnbc-continues-its-slo-mo-cr\ ash-and-burn-descent-to-the-gutter/ http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/08/20/msnbc-continues-its-slo-mo-c\ rash-and-burn-descent-to-the-gutter/ Here's a partial transcript (full transcript is here http://www.silobreaker.com/msnbc-no-mention-of-black-gunowner-among-rac\ ist-protesters-5_2262536634002046976 ): CONTESSA BREWER: A man at a pro-health care reform rally just outside, wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip. The Associated Press reports about a dozen people in all at that event were visible carrying firearms. And if the scene looks familiar, that's because it should, last week a guy stood outside Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, New Hampshire with a gun strapped to his leg and police arrested a 62-year-old before that New Hampshire event for carrying unlicensed loaded gun. And the reason we're talking about this, a lot of talk here, Dylan, because people feel like, yes, there are Second Amendment rights for sure but also there are questions about whether this has racial overtones. I mean, here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists or to their legs. TOURE: It sounds simplistic when you put it that way, but it is real that there is tremendous anger in this country about government, the way government seems to be taking over the country, anger about a black person being president. Just several upheavals in the country over the last ten years from 9/11, to the economic tsunami, to the black man becoming president and, you know, we see these hate groups rising up and this is definitely part of that. Uh-huh. [LIARS! RD] Except this is the guy they're talking about, the Arizona gentleman who showed up loaded for bear: [arizonaprotester] See? It's the black guy. Grey slacks, white shirt, scary-looking automatic weapons (to me, at least; I'm terrified of guns). In fact, the local affiliate got an interview with him, which is quite interesting: Youtube:Black man with machine gun protests Obama http://snipurl.com/ql29k http://snipurl.com/ql29k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JiPWzDF6w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JiPWzDF6w There's something weirdly hilarious about this African-American man's gesture to exercise his citizenship rights (as he sees it), and even his very identity, being edited out by the schlock-jocks at MSNBC in order to do a faux-exposé of white racism. And by hilarious, I of course mean so fucked up and dishonest and absurd and just goddamn sad I can hardly stand it. http://snipurl.com/ql1zi http://snipurl.com/ql1zi http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/08/20/msnbc-continues-its-slo-mo-cr\ ash-and-burn-descent-to-the-gutter/ http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/08/20/msnbc-continues-its-slo-mo-c\ rash-and-burn-descent-to-the-gutter/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
What the heck is Obama doing talking to the faith based groups? Talking about having faith because he's a religious fundamentalist himself, having been mentored by his pastor for twenty or more years? From what I've read, Obama is a true believer who prays almost every day, so I would be surprised if he didn't talk to faith based groups. But, it would seem that a vast majority of the members of the faith based groups are opposed to many of Obama's policies. raunchydog wrote: Oh let's not go there... Too late, the election is already over - you elected a religious fundamentalist to be the President of the U.S.A. Maybe you thought you were electing a Liberal Progressive, but the Rev Wright should have been a tip-off. 'We are God's partners in matters of life and death.' - Barack Obama Read more: Politico, August 19, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/mg65cm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:26 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: Geez Bill, You're listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. Just like you, Rush is frustrated that women with strong opinions who call him on his sexism won't shut the fuck up. So he puts them in his spam filter, hoping he won't feel tempted to peek. But it never fails, the allure of awesome female power grabs hold of his dick, and even though the specter of vagina dentata looms large in his awareness, he begs, yes, begs to read the feminazi's post. He envies a her power. He gets himself hard every time he repeats his piggy mantra, feminazi, feminazi, feminazi. It's an endearment, a cooing entreaty to his dominatrix lover, a lusting for the caress of her Gucci designer whip, longing for it to delicately trail the curves of his sweet butt cheeks before delivering some righteous bitch slapping. Spam filter? Ha! You can't wait to take a peek. You really do believe ignorance is bliss, don't you? Raunchy Dog, you probably needed a shower after that. Myself, I just vomited out my guts. Your post wound up in my SPAM folder once again. Now to explain how Gmail works, you can't make a rule telling Gmail something is spam. What you do is you take it out of the SPAM label or put it into the SPAM label. Eventually Gmail catches on and leaves it where it figures you want it. You can make a rule that a certain email should not go into the SPAM label but not the other way around. I faithfully go through my SPAM folder because I find Gmail isn't all that good in figuring out what is and what is not SPAM. The way I'm forced to filter out people like Barry and Judy is marking an email read and trash. I don't go through my trash and don't have any curiosity of what's in the trash. After all, Barry talks trash and that's all, Judy encourages Barry and she's a femiNazi, so why bother reading her posts. If I want to read the bizarre, I go to Encyclopedia Dramatica. That has all the drama I'd ever want and some rather good feelthy pictures there as well. If we don't get a public option, we'll flush the bill and try again next time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prepare to feel old
TurquoiseB wrote: Every year Beloit College publishes its Mindset List, in which it details the things that its incoming class of students take for granted, given their age: http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2013. They left one out one of your favorites: Each person possesses an individual soul-monad, that reincarnates from one life to the next in a never-ending cycle after they have spent forty days in the Bardo. LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:26 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Geez Bill, You're listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. Just like you, Rush is frustrated that women with strong opinions who call him on his sexism won't shut the fuck up. So he puts them in his spam filter, hoping he won't feel tempted to peek. But it never fails, the allure of awesome female power grabs hold of his dick, and even though the specter of vagina dentata looms large in his awareness, he begs, yes, begs to read the feminazi's post. He envies a her power. He gets himself hard every time he repeats his piggy mantra, feminazi, feminazi, feminazi. It's an endearment, a cooing entreaty to his dominatrix lover, a lusting for the caress of her Gucci designer whip, longing for it to delicately trail the curves of his sweet butt cheeks before delivering some righteous bitch slapping. Spam filter? Ha! You can't wait to take a peek. You really do believe ignorance is bliss, don't you? Raunchy Dog, you probably needed a shower after that. Myself, I just vomited out my guts. Your post wound up in my SPAM folder once again. Now to explain how Gmail works, you can't make a rule telling Gmail something is spam. What you do is you take it out of the SPAM label or put it into the SPAM label. Eventually Gmail catches on and leaves it where it figures you want it. You can make a rule that a certain email should not go into the SPAM label but not the other way around. I faithfully go through my SPAM folder because I find Gmail isn't all that good in figuring out what is and what is not SPAM. The way I'm forced to filter out people like Barry and Judy is marking an email read and trash. I don't go through my trash and don't have any curiosity of what's in the trash. After all, Barry talks trash and that's all, Judy encourages Barry and she's a femiNazi, so why bother reading her posts. If I want to read the bizarre, I go to Encyclopedia Dramatica. That has all the drama I'd ever want and some rather good feelthy pictures there as well. If we don't get a public option, we'll flush the bill and try again next time. I see you did peeked.
[FairfieldLife] Fox viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform
Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/ [graphic] Last night, NBC News and the Wall Street Journal released a poll showing that all the misinformation out there http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/19/2036015.aspx about health care reform proposals in Congress is taking root with many Americans. For instance, 45 percent http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/08/18/nbc-poll-myths-endure-on-healt\ h-care-highlighting-doubts-on-overhaul/ believe the false claim http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/aug/10/palin-death-pan\ el-remark-sets-truth-o-meter-fire/ that legislation includes death panels while 55 percent http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/08/18/nbc-poll-myths-endure-on-healt\ h-care-highlighting-doubts-on-overhaul/ believe the false claim http://factcheck.org/2009/07/misleading-gop-health-care-claims/ that coverage will be extended to illegal immigrants. MSNBC's First Read notes that self-identified viewers of Fox News are disproportionately misinformed http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/19/2036015.aspx : Here's another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly. But it would be incorrect to suggest that this is ONLY coming from conservative viewers who tune in to FOX. In fact, 41% of CNN/MSNBC viewers believe the misinformation about illegal immigrants, 39% believe the government takeover stuff, 40% believe the abortion misperception, and 30% believe the stuff about pulling the plug on grandma. What's more, a good chunk of folks who get their news from broadcast TV (NBC, ABC, CBS) believe these things, too. This is about credible messengers using the media to get some of this misinformation out there, not as much about the filter itself. These numbers should worry Democratic operatives, as well as the news media that have been covering this story. As ThinkProgress has pointed out http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/13/report-fox-health-coverage/ , Fox News regularly http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/17/luntz-scare-reform/ distorts http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/12/steele-death-panels-proper/ the http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908190005 truth http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/12/fox-analyst-kill-old-people/ about http://mediamatters.org/research/200908180016 health http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908140037 care http://mediamatters.org/research/200908130044 reform http://mediamatters.org/research/200908100054 . Last week, Media Matters found that over a two day period opponents of health care reform outnumbered supporters by a 6-to-1 margin http://mediamatters.org/reports/200908120046 on Fox. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/
[FairfieldLife] Friday 9/18, Fairfield: Solar Healing Lecture with Hira Ratan Manek ...who can live off sunlight
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=72872132228# Solar Healing Lecture with Hira Ratan Manek Living off the Energy of our Sun Host: Andy Toepel Type: http://www.facebook.com/search/?o=4sfxp=1c1=3 Education - http://www.facebook.com/search/?o=4sfxp=1c1=3c2=28 Lecture Network: Global Start Time: Friday, September 18, 2009 at 12:00pm End Time: Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 12:05pm Location: Fairfield, IA City/Town: Fairfield, IA Description HRM studies the art of living off of sun light. Gladys Gonzales contacted him and asked him to come to Fairfield, IA. His response was that if we can get a min of 100 folks to attend he would be happy to. He'd be doing this sometime in September, the exact date has not been determined yet. Here's a nice description of his life from www.solarhealing.com Hira Ratan Manek was born on 12th of September 1937 in Bodhavad, India, was raised in Calicut, Kerala, India, where he had his Mechanical Engineering degree from the University of Kerala. After graduation, he joined the family shipping and spice trading business and continued working there until he retired in 1992. After he retired, he began to research and study the ancient practice of sun gazing in which he had been interested in since his childhood. This method was an old but forgotten method, which had been practiced, in the ancient times in many different parts of the world. (see Sun Gazing - History) After working on this method for 3 years, he was able to re-discover the secrets of sun gazing. During his study, he was mainly inspired from the teachings of Lord Mahavir of Jains, who was also practicing this method two thousand and six hundred years ago. Other inspirations for sungazing came from ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Native Americans. Since June 18th, 1995, HRM has and continues to live only on sun energy and water. Occasionally, for hospitality and social purposes, he drinks tea, coffee and buttermilk. Until now, he had three strict fastings, during which he had just sun energy and only water and was under the control and observation of various science and medical teams. The first of these fasting lasted for 211 days during 1995-96 in Calicut, India directed by Dr. C.K. Ramachandran, a medical expert on allopathy and ayurvedic medicine. This was followed by a 411 day fast from 2000-2001 in Ahmedabad, India directed by an International team of 21 medical doctors and scientists led by Dr. Sudhir Shah (Dr. Shah's synopsis report) and Dr. K. K. Shah, the acting President of Indian Medical Association at that time. Dr. Maurie D. Pressman, MD also describes his experience with HRM in an article he wrote and later joined the team for the next observation on HRM. After the excitement of the findings at Ahmadabad, HRM was invited to Thomas Jefferson University and University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia where he underwent a 130 day observation period. This Science/Medical Team wanted to observe and examine his retina, pineal gland and brain, therefore this observation team was led by Dr. Andrew B. Newberg, a leading authority on the brain and also featured in the recent movie What the Bleep Do We Know, and by Dr. George C. Brenard, the leading authority on the pineal gland. Initial results found that the gray cells in HRM's brain are regenerating. 700 photographs have been taken where the neurons were reported to be active and not dying. Furthermore, the pineal gland was expanding and not shrinking which is typically what happens after mid fifties and its maximum average size is about 6 x 6 mm, however for HRM, it has been measured to be at 8 x 11 mm. There have been many other sungazers who have achieved similar results and have volunteered to be tested, however due to lack of funding and other lifestyle restrictions the results have not been documented. The uniqueness of HRM is that he has surrendered his living body for observation and experiments to the scientific firmament for several extended periods of time. Although scientists and doctors have agreed that hunger is being reduced if not eliminated, due to the complexity of the various brain functions, they have not been able to explain how sungazing has such positive effects on the human mind or body, however more research is underway. In 2002 Hira Ratan Manek gave over 136 lectures in USA and has been invited by government agencies of many countries to help them understand this process at which point he established his International Headquarters in Orlando, Florida. In 2003 HRM gave over 147 lectures in US, Canada, Caribbean and UK and nearly 400 newspapers all around the world have published articles on him. Additionally, many television channels have broadcast stories about him and he was most recently interviewed by BBC World Services. In December, 2003 HRM traveled to India for 4 months and delivered 70 lectures to various cities such as Chennai, Pondicherry, Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Baroda, Palitana, Kachchh, Jodhpur, Pali,
[FairfieldLife] Newsweek: We Are All Hindus Now
Subject: Newsweek: We Are All Hindus Now By Lisa Miller | NEWSWEEK Published Aug 15, 2009 From the magazine issue dated Aug 31, 2009 http://www.newsweek http://www.newsweek ..com/id/212155 America is not a Christian nation. We are, it is true, a nation founded by Christians, and according to a 2008 survey, 76 percent of us continue to identify as Christian (still, that's the lowest percentage in American history). Of course, we are not a Hindu-or Muslim, or Jewish, or Wiccan-nation, either. A million-plus Hindus live in the United States, a fraction of the billion who live on Earth. But recent poll data show that conceptually, at least, we are slowly becoming more like Hindus and less like traditional Christians in the ways we think about God, our selves, each other, and eternity. The Rig Veda, the most ancient Hindu scripture, says this: Truth is One, but the sages speak of it by many names. A Hindu believes there are many paths to God. Jesus is one way, the Qur'an is another, yoga practice is a third. None is better than any other; all are equal. The most traditional, conservative Christians have not been taught to think like this. They learn in Sunday school that their religion is true, and others are false. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life No one comes to the Father except through me. Americans are no longer buying it. According to a 2008 Pew Forum survey, 65 percent of us believe that many religions can lead to eternal life-including 37 percent of white evangelicals, the group most likely to believe that salvation is theirs alone. Also, the number of people who seek spiritual truth outside church is growing. Thirty percent of Americans call themselves spiritual, not religious, according to a 2009 NEWSWEEK Poll, up from 24 percent in 2005. Stephen Prothero, religion professor at Boston University, has long framed the American propensity for the divine-deli- cafeteria religion as very much in the spirit of Hinduism. You're not picking and choosing from different religions, because they're all the same, he says. It isn't about orthodoxy. It's about whatever works. If going to yoga works, great-and if going to Catholic mass works, great. And if going to Catholic mass plus the yoga plus the Buddhist retreat works, that's great, too. Then there's the question of what happens when you die. Christians traditionally believe that bodies and souls are sacred, that together they comprise the self, and that at the end of time they will be reunited in the Resurrection. You need both, in other words, and you need them forever. Hindus believe no such thing. At death, the body burns on a pyre, while the spirit-where identity resides-escapes. In reincarnation, central to Hinduism, selves come back to earth again and again in different bodies. So here is another way in which Americans are becoming more Hindu: 24 percent of Americans say they believe in reincarnation, according to a 2008 Harris poll. So agnostic are we about the ultimate fates of our bodies that we're burning them-like Hindus-after death. More than a third of Americans now choose cremation, according to the Cremation Association of North America, up from 6 percent in 1975. I do think the more spiritual role of religion tends to deemphasize some of the more starkly literal interpretations of the Resurrection, agrees Diana Eck, professor of comparative religion at Harvard. So let us all say om. Aano bhadra krtavo yantu vishwatah Let noble thoughts come to me from all directions - RIG VEDA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fox viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform
John wrote: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals... So, John, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cuting off or rationing treatment to the elderly, and giving full coverage to illegal immigrants, with taxpayer money that's automatically deducted from your paycheck. Is that right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
Invincible America Transcendental Meditation Dome numbers tumble and hurricane Bob arrives off the coast of America. Zealot Transcendental Meditation administrators keep practicing TM meditators out of dome meditation programs who could have been in the Invincible America group meditation program contributing to national international and world coherence. Weather changes for the worst, lives and property endangered by TM course administrators. World held hostage by jihad clerks of the Transcendental Meditation movement. Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Best Movie Lines in 200 Seconds
bill hicks wrote: you probably needed a shower after that... raunch wrote: I see you did peeked. It's just too much for Barry and Bill - the females, the computers, the ObamaCare, it's all just too much, so they resort to the filters, and then they peek and post, asking for help reading their mail. LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Reprisals against the health care companies?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/19/health-insurers-fear-probe-house-dems-reprisal-opposing-obamas-plan/ http://tinyurl.com/nm8p8t Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reprisals against the health care companies?
bill hicks wrote: ...examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry. So, it looks like the government wants to take over the health care insurance business, so they can ration the health care and place limits on the executives. But they don't have time to figure out how to provide low-cost health care insurance to the millions of illegal immigrants. Correction: the politicians don't even have time to pass immigration reform, but some are worried about how much money the insurance executives take home. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fox viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: John wrote: Fox News viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform proposals... So, John, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cuting off or rationing treatment to the elderly, and giving full coverage to illegal immigrants, with taxpayer money that's automatically deducted from your paycheck. Is that right? If Obama has his way the aforementioned objections you have to health care reform (except choice, a woman's right to have control of her body) will worsen with as health care continues to fatten the pockets of PRIVATE insurance companies. Not to worry, you can still have expensive private insurance if you want it. I'm advocating for a robust public option, which is an anathema to private insurance companies, so that they have to compete with the public option. If we don't make them compete they will ruin our economy as they continue to escalate premiums and deny coverage. The only reason they exist is to leech off the public, and drive prices sky high. Check this out and see what I mean: http://snipurl.com/qla67 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/theres-a-new-squid-in-town-the-view-from-the-belly-of-the-beast-part-ii/ with a the lefties and equally misinformed.
[FairfieldLife] Relaxation. Proof it's good for you!
Relax - it's good for you Meditation has long been lauded. Now science has shown that deep relaxation changes our bodies on a genetic level - for the better. Anastasia Stephens reports. It's a piece of advice yogis have given for thousands of years: take a deep breath and relax. Watch the tension melt from your muscles and all your niggling worries vanish. Somehow we all know that relaxation is good for us. Now the hard science has caught up: a comprehensive scientific study showing that deep relaxation changes our bodies on a genetic level has just been published. What researchers at Harvard Medical School discovered is that, in long-term practitioners of relaxation methods such as yoga and meditation, far more ''disease-fighting genes'' were active, compared to those who practised no form of relaxation. In particular, they found genes that protect from disorders such as pain, infertility, high blood pressure and even rheumatoid arthritis were switched on. The changes, say the researchers, were induced by what they call ''the relaxation effect'', a phenomenon that could be just as powerful as any medical drug but without the side effects. ''We found a range of disease-fighting genes were active in the relaxation practitioners that were not active in the control group,'' Dr Herbert Benson, associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, who led the research, says. The good news for the control group with the less-healthy genes is that the research didn't stop there. The experiment, which showed just how responsive genes are to behaviour, mood and environment, revealed that genes can switch on, just as easily as they switch off. ''Harvard researchers asked the control group to start practising relaxation methods every day,'' says Jake Toby, hypnotherapist at London's BodyMind Medicine Centre, who teaches clients how to induce the relaxation effect. ''After two months, their bodies began to change: the genes that help fight inflammation, kill diseased cells and protect the body from cancer all began to switch on.'' More encouraging still, the benefits of the relaxation effect were found to increase with regular practice: the more people practised relaxation methods such as meditation or deep breathing, the greater their chances of remaining free of arthritis and joint pain with stronger immunity, healthier hormone levels and lower blood pressure. Benson believes the research is pivotal because it shows how a person's state of mind affects the body on a physical and genetic level. It might also explain why relaxation induced by meditation or repetitive mantras is considered to be a powerful remedy in traditions such as Ayurveda in India or Tibetan medicine. But just how can relaxation have such wide-ranging and powerful effects? Research has described the negative effects of stress on the body. Linked to the release of the stress-hormones adrenalin and cortisol, stress raises the heart rate and blood pressure, weakens immunity and lowers fertility. By contrast, the state of relaxation is linked to higher levels of feel-good chemicals such as serotonin and to the growth hormone which repairs cells and tissue. Indeed, studies show that relaxation has virtually the opposite effect, lowering heart rate, boosting immunity and enabling the body to thrive. ''On a biological level, stress is linked to fight-flight and danger,'' Dr Jane Flemming, a London GP, says. ''In survival mode, heart rate rises and blood pressure shoots up. Meanwhile muscles, preparing for danger, contract and tighten. And non-essential functions such as immunity and digestion go by the wayside.'' Relaxation, on the other hand, is a state of rest, enjoyment and physical renewal. Free of danger, muscles can relax and food can be digested. The heart can slow and blood circulation flows freely to the body's tissues, feeding it with nutrients and oxygen. This restful state is good for fertility, as the body is able to conserve the resources it needs to generate new life. While relaxation techniques can be very different, their biological effects are essentially similar. ''When you relax, the parasympathetic nervous system switches on. That is linked to better digestion, memory and immunity, among other things,'' Toby says. ''As long as you relax deeply, you'll reap the rewards.'' But, he warns, deep relaxation isn't the sort of switching off you do relaxing with a cup of tea or lounging on the sofa. ''What you're looking for is a state of deep relaxation where tension is released from the body on a physical level and your mind completely switches off,'' he says. ''The effect won't be achieved by lounging round in an everyday way, nor can you force yourself to relax. You can only really achieve it by learning a specific technique such as self-hypnosis, guided imagery or meditation.'' The relaxation effect, however, may not be as pronounced on everyone. ''Some
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html These figures don't look too bad. Looks like the numbers are returning to their normal level before the summer course. Which means the world will be as safe (or not) as it always was going to be because, let's face it, the IA course has proved that the ME does absolutely Jack-shit and it's about time those at the top admitted it and sent those poor Indian kids home so they can get some sort of life together outside of just chanting all day to make wealthy westerners feel better about themselves. So stop worrying, anyone who's banned from the dome is going to be ultimately better off without these fundy weirdo's ruling their lives. Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fox viewers overwhelmingly misinformed about health care reform
So, John, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cuting off or rationing treatment to the elderly, and giving full coverage to illegal immigrants, with taxpayer money that's automatically deducted from your paycheck. Is that right? raunchydog wrote: If Obama has his way the aforementioned objections you have to health care reform... These are not my objections, it was a joke to see if John or Bill would respond. Where I come from silence usually indicates agreement. But I guess this subject is way beyond John or Bill. LOL! Thanks for the link. (except choice, a woman's right to have control of her body) will worsen with as health care continues to fatten the pockets of PRIVATE insurance companies. Not to worry, you can still have expensive private insurance if you want it. I'm advocating for a robust public option, which is an anathema to private insurance companies, so that they have to compete with the public option. If we don't make them compete they will ruin our economy as they continue to escalate premiums and deny coverage. The only reason they exist is to leech off the public, and drive prices sky high. Check this out and see what I mean: http://snipurl.com/qla67 with a the lefties and equally misinformed.
[FairfieldLife] A litany of sins of socialist commie liberals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdhTumEUBN8eurl
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL as an HBO series
Short URL since the link commands only seem to work in email: http://tinyurl.com/l6nnco * *Mike White ought to have a look at FFL for tons of material about dysfunctional enlightened people. :-D * *Bhairitu wrote: Thumbing through some recent issues of The Hollywood Reporter I came upon this story: HBO develops 'Enlightened' comedy To be written by Mike White and star Laura Dern By Nellie Andreeva Aug 5, 2009, 11:00 PM ET HBO is being Enlightened by Laura Dern and Mike White. The pay cable network is developing a single-camera comedy to be written by the School of Rock scribe and star Dern as a formerly self-destructive woman who, after having a spiritual awakening, becomes determined to live an enlightened life, creating havoc at home and work. There are so many dysfunctional types of characters populating cable television, and she is equally as dysfunctional as any of them, White said, but her impulse is to get healthy, to make the world a better place even though it creates havoc. More here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3idb676dc68387c3ada17159715aa7e1f7
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
The numbers are not really bad, perhaps with more pundits and the students returning they felt they could be more strict. Still its nothing like the 2500 that Maharishi said was necessary for this group alone. Also these people who were heros' not so long ago are now nobodies? You can say thank-you to someone and this makes a farce of those words. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Invincible America Transcendental Meditation Dome numbers tumble and hurricane Bob arrives off the coast of America. Zealot Transcendental Meditation administrators keep practicing TM meditators out of dome meditation programs who could have been in the Invincible America group meditation program contributing to national international and world coherence. Weather changes for the worst, lives and property endangered by TM course administrators. World held hostage by jihad clerks of the Transcendental Meditation movement. Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] news story about defamation and internet 'anonymity
http://www.pcworld.com/article/170437/liskula_cohen_a_model_hero_in_google_lawsuit_win.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/19/obama.health.care/index.html Notice the tiny URL: * *http://tinyurl.com/*RaunchyDog* I need you to knock on doors, talk to neighbors, spread the facts and speak the truth, he told religious leaders and reporters on a conference call that was streamed over the Web at faithforhealth.org. This debate over health care goes to the heart of who we are as a people, he said. I believe that nobody in America should be denied basic health care because he or she lacks health insurance. Some 140,000 people participated in the call, the coalition of more than 30 faith-based groups that organized the event said in a written statement. Obama urged the listeners to reject misinformation about his plans, noting, There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. Excellent. And this line destroys the mad shouters and the lies, without being aggresive: There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. Do less, accomplish more. Pure genius. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: bill hicks wrote: There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cuting off or rationing treatment to the elderly Lol, you are so fucking brainwashed with lies, I can't figure out why anyone here bothers to respond to you. Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. Thanks. OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/19/obama.health.care/index.html Notice the tiny URL: * *http://tinyurl.com/*RaunchyDog* I need you to knock on doors, talk to neighbors, spread the facts and speak the truth, he told religious leaders and reporters on a conference call that was streamed over the Web at faithforhealth.org. This debate over health care goes to the heart of who we are as a people, he said. I believe that nobody in America should be denied basic health care because he or she lacks health insurance. Some 140,000 people participated in the call, the coalition of more than 30 faith-based groups that organized the event said in a written statement. Obama urged the listeners to reject misinformation about his plans, noting, There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. Excellent. And this line destroys the mad shouters and the lies, without being aggresive: There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. Do less, accomplish more. Pure genius. OffWorld I listened in on most of this. It was good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
Rick Archer wrote: It was good... 'People are ticked off and scared. You have a situation where a good chunk of the country is waking up to the fact that Obama is proposing things that are out of step with common sense, out of step with the notion that the government isn't going to run everything,' said Pawlenty, who delivered a health care-oriented speech Friday at the second-annual GOPAC conference in Chicago, a meeting of conservative state legislators and national party leaders... Read more: 'Tim Pawlenty: Voters 'ticked off and scared'' By Andy Barr Politico, August 20, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/koeurx
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? I thought you were a liberal. What have you got against women? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Movie Trailer For James Cameron's 'Avatar' Released Online
AVATAR TRAILER, REVIEW By Tim Robey The Telegraph August 20, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/6062230/Avatar-trailer-r eview.html ³This is great!² is the sole line of dialogue in the newly-released teaser trailer for James Cameron¹s Avatar, demand for which must have slowed the entire internet down today. It arrives as a disabled Marine, played by Terminator: Salvation¹s Sam Worthington, travels to an alien planet (it¹s called Pandora) and gets telepathically ported into the body of a bright-blue humanoid of gangly, elfin appearance. How great is it, though? That¹s a hard question for any trailer to answer, this one especially. Cameron¹s movie is intended for 3D, on the biggest screens in the land. A few 2D clips on a laptop are never going to do it justice. There are very promising shots, like some spectacular-looking floating rocks in the sky; and less promising ones, like the close-ups on the aliens, which combine photo-realism with a cartoony cuteness. They¹ll take some getting used to. Even watching the trailer a second time, their moments of snarling aggression do seem more interesting. As yet, there¹s no sign of Sigourney Weaver, who Cameron fans will be hoping has a significant role. The action highlights -- jungle chases, longbow skirmishes and rides on what look like winged dinosaurs -- have a tribal, Apocalypto flavour. How all this translates to 3D is the crucial thing -- IMAX cinemas are showing a few sequences on August 21 in exclusive engagements. Brisk and a little perfunctory, the trailer itself is not a huge wow, but there¹s plenty in it to tantalise. Movie Trailer: http://bit.ly/zINAn Website: http://www.avatarmovie.com/ On Twitter: http://twitter.com/officialavatar NHNE Wavemaker News List: Send Some Green Love To NHNE: http://www.nhne.org/DONATE/tabid/398/Default.aspx To subscribe, send a message to: nhnenews-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:nhnenews-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe, send a message to: nhnenews-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:nhnenews-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com To review current posts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/messages http://www.nhne.org/tabid/1044/Default.aspx NHNE's Mother Ship: http://www.nhne.org/ NHNE Pulse: http://nhne-pulse.org/ Sunfellow NHNE on Twitter: http://twitter.com/sunfellow Integral NHNE: http://integralnhne.ning.com/ Published by David Sunfellow NewHeavenNewEarth (NHNE) eMail: n...@nhne.org mailto:nhne%40nhne.org Phone: (928) 257-3200 Fax: (815) 642-0117 P.O. Box 2242 Sedona, AZ 86339
[FairfieldLife] Syrvey USA: More than 3 in 4 support the Public Option
Question: In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important? Extremely important58% Quite important19% Not that important. 7% Not at all important...15% Not sure... 1% http://snipurl.com/qm44w [www_surveyusa_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: Rick Archer wrote: It was good... 'People are ticked off and scared No they are not. Only a tiny loud percentage. You are being completely brain-washed by Fux News. What does it feel like to be in the last decades of your life and to realize that you have been living in a complete illusion for years, and that the rest of the world has moved on and left you behind. Its over. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5BSyJ_vlHo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5BSyJ_vlHo OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] WillyTex goes to Democrats Meeting:
Willytex goes to Democrat Meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_ogUwYrZIfeature=sub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_ogUwYrZIfeature=sub OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld Your hero, Ron Paul, is diametrically opposed to everything you stand for on healthcare, Off-Kilter, and Willytex is very, very close to Paul's stand. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm Off-Kilter, how are you able to be for a libertarian candidate and then a few months later stand for something that is 180 degrees different?
[FairfieldLife] A survey question I'd like to see
Here's the survey question I'd like to see: Question: Regarding Social Security, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for Social Security -- extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Off wrote: Again, you have been brainwashed... So, Off, you're not in favor of the public option. And your plan wouldn't include guest workers or abortions for women.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. Shemp wrote: Willytex is very, very close to Paul's stand. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm Off-Kilter, how are you able to be for a libertarian candidate and then a few months later stand for something that is 180 degrees different? Because Off is a moron? All you have to do is bring down the high cost of medical care and then everyone can afford their own health insurance. But this seems to be way above Off's head. Off's plan wouldn't even include a private option. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Advanced lecture Sunday
On Aug 20, 2009, at 8:23 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Thanks for posting this. I actually look forward to the latest knowledge posts from this group of TM-folk in the domes. Even the announcements themselves are like sutras, or threads, of a deeper knowledge. Are you posting ALL of the announcements? If you aren't I really wish someone would. They're very informative on a deep level. I realize this is a more major announcement, but I'd love to hear them all. This is great stuff for appreciating the continuing wave that is TM and the TM-Sidhi technologies of the Unified Field. Please post'em! Thanks Dick. -V. Thanks V. Made me smile :) I really think we ought to start a fund raising drive for a couples dome though No swinging singles dome? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrvey USA: More than 3 in 4 support the Public Option
John wrote: Question: In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important? Extremely important58% Quite important19% Not that important. 7% Not at all important...15% Not sure... 1% http://snipurl.com/qm44w [www_surveyusa_com] Looks like a lot of people are going to be very disappointed with Obama, John. The private option seems to be off the table. All you'll probably get out of this is a cut in your Medicare.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A survey question I'd like to see
shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the survey question I'd like to see: Question: Regarding Social Security, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for Social Security -- extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important? People on Medicare don't need a private option, so most of them would say that it's probably not at all important. This is the bloc that will defeat any reformist plan. What good are the Dems if they can't even reduce the high cost of medications?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld Your hero, Ron Paul, is diametrically opposed That is why they call him Dr No. He's against everything. The man was the best candidate you Republicans had, but you tossed him out for idiots McCain/Palin. But Ron Paul is an idiot when the shit hits the fan.,, either that or he's just a liar. I have no respect for him now , because if he were president he would do nothing. I was THE first on FFL to support Obama. You are always a loser in all regards. The rest of your post I don't bother to read. Its not worth reading anything you write old man. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Off wrote: Again, you have been brainwashed... So, Off, you're not in favor of the public option. And your plan wouldn't include guest workers or abortions for women. Yawn. No-one is interested in your retarded brainwashed lunacy anymore Willytex. I already told you I AM FROM BRITAIN you dumb fuck. In Britain we give healthcare to ALL COMERS. Period. Not like you cowards. Everyone, British or not, for EVERY legal reason. Period. You Americans will follow our lead. Period. There is no way out for you. You are being assimilated. And abortion is legal in Britain ,and ALL OF EUROPE, and ALL OF CHINA, and ALL OF AFRICA and ALL OF INDIA. You are one dumb fuck. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld Your hero, Ron Paul, is diametrically opposed That is why they call him Dr No. He's against everything. The man was the best candidate you Republicans had, but you tossed him out for idiots McCain/Palin. But Ron Paul is an idiot when the shit hits the fan.,, either that or he's just a liar. I have no respect for him now , because if he were president he would do nothing. I was THE first on FFL to support Obama. You are always a loser in all regards. The rest of your post I don't bother to read. Its not worth reading anything you write old man. OffWorld Finally! You've finally admitted you have nothing to do with Ron Paul on an ideological basis, despite my attempts to distance your psychotic personality from one of the few politicians I admire. How many times have I asked you to please disavow any connection you have to the man? Many, many times. And you always refused. Thank you for finally seeing the light. You are pro-government, Off-Kilter, the OPPOSITE of Dr. Paul, and anti-markets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hey Raunch, do I get brownie points for posting this? Rick, thanks for posting the Amnesty International petition. It's one the few organizations I regularly donate to. I would hope that you posted it as a person of conscience and not as the disingenuous person posing in your comment. Violence against women is a serious business. I wasn't going to write about this, but your post is just a reminder of what my family has been dealing with the past few days. My brother's daughter, 28 years-old, is the mother of three boys by three different men. The first boy is 12 his father is African American. The second boy is 6 his father is also African American. The third boy is 1 his father is a Lebanese American Muslim. Last Friday night, father number three, choked, raped and sodomized my niece. She spent two days in the hospital recovering from injuries. All I can feel is overwhelming sadness for her and unbelievable rage washing over my heart like hot ice. I don't dwell on it but now that I'm talking about it, I'm feeling the rawness of it all. Everyone experiences family loss and tragedy. I'm no different from anyone else in that respect. I don't expect pity or reproach for telling this story. It just is what it is, another example of tragic everyday violence against women. When images come to my awareness of the rapist boyfriend holding my precious niece against her will, forcing himself on her while she screams and his baby cries for her, I want to claw his face to shreds and kill the fucker with my bare hands. He's lucky he's in jail. My brother feels the same way as I do. I worry he really would beat the shit out of this guy and probably end up in jail himself. I have a very low tolerance for drama in my personal relationships. Life is good. My niece and the other hand, has had one dramatic event in her life after another, living with a series of jackass boyfriends who beat her up. Now that it has come to this, extreme violence bordering on homicide is it reasonable to ask: Was she asking for it? What did she do or say to provoke him? Did they have too much to drink? Why does she always pick violent men? Why doesn't she have more self respect? What kind of a mother would allow her child to live in a violent home? The onus is always on the woman. Why is that? I'm interested to hear what others think. I comfort my mother and pray for my brother. Violence against women isn't so far away. It's in our homes, quietly hidden in families too afraid or ashamed to tell anyone about it. I'm talking and it's damn painful. I don't have the any answers for my niece, but I do have a responsibility to speak on her behalf and tell her story, here and now just to see if I'm alone in the echo chamber or resonating with someone out there I don't know. Women of courage are not silent. Hillary was the first person to say, women's rights are human rights. It was such an obvious statement to me, but it was considered bold and controversial in China and the world received it as if it was an amazing revelation. It's a damn sick society we live in. It's sick that we have to twist Congress' arm just to do the right thing and support the International Violence against Women Act. What say you? Hi RD, sorry to hear such a story and, wish there was something I could do to help. Not many people these days have had good examples of how a well functioning family unit operates and so, often have no background to make good decisions on their own. Family unit breakdown endangers all of society and, if one read all the conspiracy theories about it, you might think the whole problem was set in motion quite a few years back. I am saddened also... N.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld Your hero, Ron Paul, is diametrically opposed That is why they call him Dr No. He's against everything. The man was the best candidate you Republicans had, but you tossed him out for idiots McCain/Palin. But Ron Paul is an idiot when the shit hits the fan.,, either that or he's just a liar. I have no respect for him now , because if he were president he would do nothing. I was THE first on FFL to support Obama. You are always a loser in all regards. The rest of your post I don't bother to read. Its not worth reading anything you write old man. OffWorld Finally! You've finally admitted you have nothing to do with Ron Paul on an ideological basis, despite my attempts to distance your psychotic personality from one of the few politicians I admire. You have nothing in common with Ron Paul you ignorant warmonger. Ron Paul was against the worst illegal atrocity of our times -- the Iraq war, that's a big reason people lare for him, and he said it is his most important issue. I keep telling you you are nothing like him for that reason. But you are too dumb to understand that. I am in disagreement with Ron Paul's pretend stance on abortion and his ignorance of the 21st century. He's like you in that regard, however, he would throw out all of his policies to stop the one you supported, you cowardly warmonger. And I am with him on his most important passion about the wrongness of the Iraq war. So I am more like him than you will ever be, whihc make you so mad inside, and you act like you understand him. He hates your views. I didn't read the rest of your post, as nothing you write is worth reading. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: What the heck is Obama doing talking to the faith based groups? Talking about having faith because he's a religious fundamentalist himself, having been mentored by his pastor for twenty or more years? From what I've read, Obama is a true believer who prays almost every day, so I would be surprised if he didn't talk to faith based groups. But, it would seem that a vast majority of the members of the faith based groups are opposed to many of Obama's policies. raunchydog wrote: Oh let's not go there... Too late, the election is already over - you elected a religious fundamentalist to be the President of the U.S.A. Maybe you thought you were electing a Liberal Progressive, but the Rev Wright should have been a tip-off. 'We are God's partners in matters of life and death.' - Barack Obama Read more: Politico, August 19, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/mg65cm We are God's partners in matters of life and death. Well, Obama did say he wants to cut health care costs. Maybe he plans to get seniors to die faster by cutting off meds and denying treatment for someone who would probably die anyway in the next year or so. Now that would save a bundle or so the deathers say. Whether you die because of a governmental decision or a private insurance decision, you're still dead and I don't know that it makes any difference who pulls the plug on grandma. End of life decisions are family decisions, but like it or not a price tag usually enters the picture. Rather than focus on end of life decisions to save money, why not focus on the leeches? The best way to cut health care costs is to stop paying executives like William W. McGuire, CEO of United Health Group $125 million a year. My 84 year-old aunt is a retired laundry worker. She worked the same job for 40 years. She never made enough to save, never owned property, never owned or drove a car. Her social security is so minimal that she qualifies for Medicade. She recently had a pacemaker operation and it didn't cost her a dime. No one said, you're too old, sorry. They just took care of her and I'm happy she is still with us. Don't worry, WillyTex you can keep your expensive private insurance, fatten leeches like McGuire, have your premiums rise faster than your income, and go BK when they deny coverage for your prostrate operation. And there you are, stuck with the tab you were just so sure your insurance would pay. Wouldn't you like have a fall back choice,like Medicare just in case? Just out of curiosity, if you become eligible for Medicare would you prefer continuing to pay for private insurance or would you enroll in Medicare? Obama is not a fundamentalist nor is he a liberal. He is a member of the Immaculate Hands of the Opportunistic Church. His priestly vestment is an empty suit, neither fish nor fowl, donkey nor elephant.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrvey USA: More than 3 in 4 support the Public Option
Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] WikiDumper
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[FairfieldLife] Where? When? Community Picnic?
Saw a classified ad in the Ledger about Fairfield's First Annual Potluck Community Picnic. Also saw a poster on the HyVee Bulletin board. It says we can arrive by car or by canoe and camp over if we want and it's free. Water Balloon fights and contests. Sounds like fun, but... HOW COME THE POSTERS DON'T GIVE A DATE OR SAY WHERE IT IS Can't be in town if you can get there by canoe, right? What's up with all the mystery?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: So, Bill, you're in favor of the government taking over health insurance, charging outrageous prices for medications, paying for abortions, cutting off or rationing treatment to the elderly off_world_beings wrote: Please stop feeding this ignorant fool. So, Off, you're not in favor of the government taking over health insurance. But why wouldn't you support the government plan paying for abortions? Again, you have been brainwashed. The plan does NOT pay for abortions. although I think it should. This about the third answer of this nature that I gave to you today. 1. You ask a stupid question about something that is NOT in the bill becuase you are a fucking moron that watches Fux News and Limbaugh. 2. I answer to tell you that that is not in the bill, even though I think it should be. Get off Fux News they are turning a smart man into a complete fucking moron. YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ALL THE FUCKING TIME by the RIGHT WING MEDIA. Idiot. OffWorld Your hero, Ron Paul, is diametrically opposed That is why they call him Dr No. He's against everything. The man was the best candidate you Republicans had, but you tossed him out for idiots McCain/Palin. But Ron Paul is an idiot when the shit hits the fan.,, either that or he's just a liar. I have no respect for him now , because if he were president he would do nothing. I was THE first on FFL to support Obama. You are always a loser in all regards. The rest of your post I don't bother to read. Its not worth reading anything you write old man. OffWorld Finally! You've finally admitted you have nothing to do with Ron Paul on an ideological basis, despite my attempts to distance your psychotic personality from one of the few politicians I admire. You have nothing in common with Ron Paul you ignorant warmonger. Ron Paul was against the worst illegal atrocity of our times -- the Iraq war, that's a big reason people lare for him, and he said it is his most important issue. I keep telling you you are nothing like him for that reason. But you are too dumb to understand that. I am in disagreement with Ron Paul's pretend stance on abortion and his ignorance of the 21st century. He's like you in that regard, however, he would throw out all of his policies to stop the one you supported, you cowardly warmonger. And I am with him on his most important passion about the wrongness of the Iraq war. So I am more like him than you will ever be, whihc make you so mad inside, and you act like you understand him. He hates your views. I didn't read the rest of your post, as nothing you write is worth reading. There wasn't that much more. You mean to say that as you were highlighting and deleting you didn't read any of it? I don't think there's a soul on this forum who believes that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:54 PM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: I don't think there's a soul on this forum who believes that. It's a requirement of reading FFL that one does not have a soul.
[FairfieldLife] Tom Barlow, Vermont lunatic, gets it wrong again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: [snip] And abortion is legal in Britain ,and ALL OF EUROPE, All of Europe? No, it's not. See the following (and scroll down to Europe). There are quite a few countries in Europe who do not allow abortion on request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law#Europe and ALL OF CHINA, ...correct... and ALL OF AFRICA No, you idiot. There is practically NO African country that allows abortion on request (see same list from Wiki above). and ALL OF INDIA. You are one dumb fuck. Uh, in this case you're looking in the mirror because you really did get it totally wrong. OffWorld
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hey Raunch, do I get brownie points for posting this? Rick, thanks for posting the Amnesty International petition. It's one the few organizations I regularly donate to. I would hope that you posted it as a person of conscience and not as the disingenuous person posing in your comment. Violence against women is a serious business. I wasn't going to write about this, but your post is just a reminder of what my family has been dealing with the past few days. My brother's daughter, 28 years-old, is the mother of three boys by three different men. The first boy is 12 his father is African American. The second boy is 6 his father is also African American. The third boy is 1 his father is a Lebanese American Muslim. Last Friday night, father number three, choked, raped and sodomized my niece. She spent two days in the hospital recovering from injuries. All I can feel is overwhelming sadness for her and unbelievable rage washing over my heart like hot ice. I don't dwell on it but now that I'm talking about it, I'm feeling the rawness of it all. Everyone experiences family loss and tragedy. I'm no different from anyone else in that respect. I don't expect pity or reproach for telling this story. It just is what it is, another example of tragic everyday violence against women. When images come to my awareness of the rapist boyfriend holding my precious niece against her will, forcing himself on her while she screams and his baby cries for her, I want to claw his face to shreds and kill the fucker with my bare hands. He's lucky he's in jail. My brother feels the same way as I do. I worry he really would beat the shit out of this guy and probably end up in jail himself. I have a very low tolerance for drama in my personal relationships. Life is good. My niece and the other hand, has had one dramatic event in her life after another, living with a series of jackass boyfriends who beat her up. Now that it has come to this, extreme violence bordering on homicide is it reasonable to ask: Was she asking for it? What did she do or say to provoke him? Did they have too much to drink? Why does she always pick violent men? Why doesn't she have more self respect? What kind of a mother would allow her child to live in a violent home? The onus is always on the woman. Why is that? I'm interested to hear what others think. I comfort my mother and pray for my brother. Violence against women isn't so far away. It's in our homes, quietly hidden in families too afraid or ashamed to tell anyone about it. I'm talking and it's damn painful. I don't have the any answers for my niece, but I do have a responsibility to speak on her behalf and tell her story, here and now just to see if I'm alone in the echo chamber or resonating with someone out there I don't know. Women of courage are not silent. Hillary was the first person to say, women's rights are human rights. It was such an obvious statement to me, but it was considered bold and controversial in China and the world received it as if it was an amazing revelation. It's a damn sick society we live in. It's sick that we have to twist Congress' arm just to do the right thing and support the International Violence against Women Act. What say you? Hi RD, sorry to hear such a story and, wish there was something I could do to help. Not many people these days have had good examples of how a well functioning family unit operates and so, often have no background to make good decisions on their own. Family unit breakdown endangers all of society and, if one read all the conspiracy theories about it, you might think the whole problem was set in motion quite a few years back. I am saddened also... N. Nelson, dear friend, just knowing that you care for the plight of others, and understand that nourishing families, nourishes love and respect in society, touches my heart. Your wish to help is more than enough. Thank you.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Hey Raunch, do I get brownie points for posting this? Rick, thanks for posting the Amnesty International petition. It's one the few organizations I regularly donate to. I would hope that you posted it as a person of conscience and not as the disingenuous person posing in your comment. Violence against women is a serious business. I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama uses faith based groups to spread the word on health care
Oops. WillyTex, I meant prostate operation prostrate is what you do begging for payment on an insurance claim. Either way, having your coverage denied really sucks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it. Thanks, Rick. I don't know if I see a moral equivalency between killing soldiers and raping women. Soldiers enlist and at least have a fighting chance. In countries blown to bits by war, chaos is a way of life and raping women is a sport. Sick, indeed. I'll see you at Lobesack's town hall.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it. Thanks, Rick. I don't know if I see a moral equivalency between killing soldiers and raping women. Soldiers enlist and at least have a fighting chance. In countries blown to bits by war, chaos is a way of life and raping women is a sport. Sick, indeed. I'll see you at Lobe sack's town hall. Good point. One observation, perhaps invalid, is that women enlist in relationships with the wrong guys, just as soldiers are often duped into enlisting for reasons other than those for which the war is actually being fought. Both go through hell as a consequence.
[FairfieldLife] Public Option Depends of Grassroot Activism
Jane Hamsher's time line proves beyond a doubt the public option would have been a dead issue weeks ago if it hadn't been for grassroots activism. If Progressive Members of the House Think We'll Accept Co-Ops As Public Plan, Think Again by Jane Hamsher, Aug 20, 2009 Matt Taibbi says that Rahm Emanuel's health care debacle could be to the Obama administration what the Iraq war was to George Bush. He's right. Matt says that progressives in the House might not vote for a bill that does not have a public option. If that's true, it's because of external pressure, not internal resolve. They were dragged kicking and screaming to that position. They knew -- as we did -- in late June that co-ops were going to be fobbed off as a public plan. They did not want to publicly commit to draw a line in the sand. June 15: Max Baucus announces his co-op plan, which was quite obviously developed to substitute for the public plan. Jerrold Nadler rightly calls it a fake public plan. June 23: We announce our whip count effort to get members of Congress to pledge to vote against any health care bill without a strong public plan. The American public is on our side, and they need to know that Kent Conrad's co-op plan is just kabuki. June 24: Leaders of the Quad Caucus come together to say that they represent 117 members of the House who will vote against any health care bill that does not have a robust public option. But when readers call the offices of individual members, nobody will confirm this. We're told by Hill staffers that they believe naming no names makes this stronger, and they're angry at us for calling attention to the weakness of their strategy to hide under the umbrella of the caucus. July 1: Donna Edwards, someone that the online community raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for in her two runs for the House, who campaigned on health care reform, won't return my emails or calls for 10 days, so I write about it. July 9: Lynn Woolsey says she's got 60 votes who will vote against any bill that doesn't have a public option. I wrote that if Lynn Woolsey's got 60 votes, I've got leprechauns in my laundry room. Having been through the supplemental battle and knowing the value of having those commitments be public, I said if she had them, she should name them. July 9: When progressive members of congress simply will not answer our questions or those of their constituents about what they'll do if there's no public plan in the final bill, we hire Mike Stark to go up on Capitol Hill and confront them with a simple question: will you or won't you commit to voting against a bill that does not have a strong public option? July 15: The Progressive Caucus leaks a list with the names of 50 members who will not vote for a plan that does not meet the Progressive Caucus criteria, incluging a strong public plan. July 21: We call all 50 offices. Not one member will confirm what Diane Watson said. July 30: 53 (later 57) progressive members of the House sign a letter saying that they will vote against a bill that gives in to the demands of Mike Ross and the Blue Dogs on the Energy Commerce committee, who insist that a public plan not be tied to Medicare reimbursement rates. August 1: Mazie Hirono speaks the truth: Ultimately, Hirono said she was a progressive who firmly believes in the public option, but that she was also someone who counted votes and that the White House would be pressuring them to make a deal. August 3: Progressives, led by Jan Schakowsky, cave to the Blue Dogs, who get what they want on Energy Commerce. In exchange, progressives get a symbolic vote on single payer that will not pass. Pelosi laughs at the idea that in the end, they would vote against any health care bill and keep it from passing. August 14: At Netroots Nation, Donna Edwards asks me if we'll do a campaign to thank the 57 progressives who signed the letter saying they would vote down any bill that didn't have a public option tied to Medicare. I said they gave that up three days later. She assured me that it would be in the final House bill. August 17: The 57 members of Congress add 3 more to their number, and they sign a letter saying that they won't vote for any bill THROUGH CONFERENCE that doesn't have a strong public option. August 19: Blogs across the internet raise over $160,000 in 24 hours to support these 60 members of Congress. August 20: The Hill reports that there are those among the 60 signatories who would accept co-ops as a public plan, and others who don't think the commitment holds through conference. Among those who signed the letter and now won't say what they would do in conference: Donna Edwards. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that the people who gave money to these members of Congress for making a promise to hold the line on the public option THROUGH CONFERENCE are going to flush this one down the memory hole? That people in strong progressive
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it. Thanks, Rick. I don't know if I see a moral equivalency between killing soldiers and raping women. Soldiers enlist and at least have a fighting chance. In countries blown to bits by war, chaos is a way of life and raping women is a sport. Sick, indeed. I'll see you at Lobe sack's town hall. Good point. One observation, perhaps invalid, is that women enlist in relationships with the wrong guys, just as soldiers are often duped into enlisting for reasons other than those for which the war is actually being fought. Both go through hell as a consequence. This goes to my earlier question. Is it reasonable to ask: Was my niece asking for it? Was she provoking it? The blame always seems to be on the woman. Choose a better partner. Shut up and don't talk back. What did you do to piss him off? Geez, why is it so difficult to say misogyny is wrong and men are the perpetrators of violence against women instead of blaming the women?
[FairfieldLife] Flop: WHO warns against homeopathy use
Page last updated at 23:04 GMT, Thursday, 20 August 2009 00:04 UK WHO warns against homeopathy use [Homeopathic remedies often contain few or no active ingredients] People with conditions such as HIV, TB and malaria should not rely on homeopathic treatments, the World Health Organization has warned. It was responding to calls from young researchers who fear the promotion of homeopathy in the developing world could put people's lives at risk. The group Voice of Young Science Network has written to health ministers to set out the WHO view. WHO TB experts said homeopathy had no place in treatment of the disease. [There is no objective evidence that homeopathy has any effect on these infections Dr Nick Beeching, Royal Liverpool University Hospital] In a letter to the WHO in June, the medics from the UK and Africa said: We are calling on the WHO to condemn the promotion of homeopathy for treating TB, infant diarrhoea, influenza, malaria and HIV. Homeopathy does not protect people from, or treat, these diseases. Those of us working with the most rural and impoverished people of the world already struggle to deliver the medical help that is needed. When homeopathy stands in place of effective treatment, lives are lost. Dr Robert Hagan is a researcher in biomolecular science at the University of St Andrews and a member of Voice of Young Science Network, which is part of the charity Sense About Science campaigning for evidence-based care. He said: We need governments around the world to recognise the dangers of promoting homeopathy for life-threatening illnesses. We hope that by raising awareness of the WHO's position on homeopathy we will be supporting those people who are taking a stand against these potentially disastrous practices. 'No evidence' Dr Mario Raviglione, director of the Stop TB department at the WHO, said: Our evidence-based WHO TB treatment/management guidelines, as well as the International Standards of Tuberculosis Care do not recommend use of homeopathy. The doctors had also complained that homeopathy was being promoted as a treatment for diarrhoea in children. But a spokesman for the WHO department of child and adolescent health and development said: We have found no evidence to date that homeopathy would bring any benefit. Homeopathy does not focus on the treatment and prevention of dehydration - in total contradiction with the scientific basis and our recommendations for the management of diarrhoea. Dr Nick Beeching, a specialist in infectious diseases at the Royal Liverpool University Hospital, said: Infections such as malaria, HIV and tuberculosis all have a high mortality rate but can usually be controlled or cured by a variety of proven treatments, for which there is ample experience and scientific trial data. There is no objective evidence that homeopathy has any effect on these infections, and I think it is irresponsible for a healthcare worker to promote the use of homeopathy in place of proven treatment for any life-threatening illness. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8211925.stm)
