YS II 40 and Bhojadeva's comment:
(http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_yoga/bhojavritti.itx
Transliteration scheme: ITRANS 5.2)
shauchAtsvAN^gajugupsA parairasaMsargaH .. sAdhana 40..
vR^ittiH \-\-\- yaH shauchaM bhAvayati tasya svAN^geShvapi
kAraNasvarUpaparyAlochanadvAreNa jugupsA ghR^iNA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
YS II 40 and Bhojadeva's comment:
(http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_yoga/bhojavritti.itx
Transliteration scheme: ITRANS 5.2)
shauchAtsvAN^gajugupsA parairasaMsargaH .. sAdhana 40..
vR^ittiH \-\-\- yaH shaucaM
The closest to culture New Jersey is ever likely to come:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/jersey-shore-gone-wilde_n_853815.html
[Charlie] Watts [, drummer of the British rock band, The Rolling
Stones -- card] has spoken openly about a period in the mid-1980s when his
previously-moderate use of alcohol and drugs became problematic: [My drug and
alcohol problems were] my way of dealing with [family problems] ... Looking
Reading the inane FFL comments here about this 60-Minutes CBS expose of
Mt. Athos helps to contrast the basic viewpoint of monastics (as
contemplatives who practice seriously) with some of these meditators who
profess to have been meditating 30+ years.
From the monastic viewpoint, the world -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Reading the inane FFL comments here about this 60-Minutes CBS
expose of Mt. Athos helps to contrast the basic viewpoint of
monastics (as contemplatives who practice seriously) with
some of these meditators who profess to
My memories are from the late '78-'79 era.
I seem to remember seeing pictures of a
monk up high on a ladder painting some of the
iconic murals. I was impressed at the time and
still am but I can't find picts of the wall icons on
the net either. That is typical among the Orthodox
since they feel
I take it you were impressed by what you saw, or what you know about the
daily living on Mt. Athos. I had kind of expected something different.
It seemed more formal, and more ceremonial than I had expected. Really,
I question the degree of spirtituality present there. What do you
think?
---
On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:04 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
I take it you were impressed by what you saw, or what you know
about the daily living on Mt. Athos. I had kind of expected
something different. It seemed more formal, and more ceremonial
than I had expected. Really, I question the degree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
YS II 40 and Bhojadeva's comment:
(http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_yoga/bhojavritti.itx
Transliteration scheme: ITRANS 5.2)
shauchAtsvAN^gajugupsA parairasaMsargaH .. sAdhana 40..
vR^ittiH \-\-\- yaH shauchaM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
My memories are from the late '78-'79 era.
I seem to remember seeing pictures of a
monk up high on a ladder painting some of the
iconic murals. I was impressed at the time and
still am but I can't find picts of the wall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
One gets the feeling that you think hierarchically,
and have fallen for the trap of believing that one
of these ways of life is higher or more evolved
than the other. I see them as merely two different
approaches,
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat
Buffalo Springfield
http://www.youtube.com/artist?a=GxdCwVVULXerhjIsh65KRkemTLgZ9JJsfeatur\
e=watch_video_title - For What Its
Worthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgsin other news
Iowa firm uses dog to sniff out bedbugs at hotels
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-
r_n_854248.html
They should have waited till a month or two before the election.
Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy theory will be?
I had such a charming time with the Cistercian monks when I was into
spirituality that I have continued an appreciation for their alternative
lifestyle. Sort of how I view people way into the tattoo culture, interesting,
but I keep my distance. I certainly dig the chanting and the Jungian
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:16 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama birth certificate issued by White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html
They should have waited till a month or two before the election.
Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy theory will be?
Obama never
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat
Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened
new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature.
This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level
of the Planck scale (l0-33 cm)
Time for a little Mark Morford:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/04/27/notes042711.DTL
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/04/27/notes042711.DTL
nl=fix nl=fix
http://tinyurl.com/3mpu4k2
From: CNN Breaking News [mailto:breakingn...@mail.cnn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:57 AM
To: textbreakingn...@ema3lsv06.turner.com
Subject: CNN Breaking News
President Obama's long-form birth certificate is being released, the White
House announced today.
Finally exposing the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
snip
I've been wrong about a lot of things in my life. Really
important things. Things I had believed were irrefutable.
So now I have a bit more humble pie on my dinner table and
a whole lot more of a
. amunaa; eva
hetunaa paraiH; anyaiH; ca
kaayavadbhiH; asaMsargaH samparka-abhaavaH saMsargaparivarjanam iti; arthaH .
The meaning (arthaH) of saMsarga-parivarjana (abstaining from contact
[with other people]) [is] like this (iti): for this (amunaa) very
(eva) reason (hetunaa)[1]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Reading the inane FFL comments here about this 60-Minutes CBS
expose of Mt. Athos
FWIW, it didn't seem to be an expose, at least the text
version of the
Good stuff, Curtis. Where you're coming from is why the Buddha told everyone to
please kill him if you meet him in the road. All these external forms of
spirituality must die for authentic spirituality to be born. Many, of course,
get stuck in the external form seemingly forever. Like those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
I had such a charming time with the Cistercian monks when I was into
spirituality that I have continued an appreciation for their alternative
lifestyle. Sort of how I view people way into the tattoo
That would seem to be the question inspired by this enter-
tainment news article. I don't know about the rest of you,
but I'm not quite as quick on my feet as I was when I first
saw Ahnold in this role. And if I wanted to look at all
Terminator-like, I'd so have to suck in my gut. Can the
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat
Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have opened
new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature.
This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the level
of the Planck scale
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Medieval, but better.
If you've been watching it, you know what I'm
talking about. If you haven't, who cares what
you think? :-)
As long as you don't get physical about it, that is.
Man Throws Cousin Through Window Over
Years ago, I heard that the way to find God was to quit looking for Him.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
Good stuff, Curtis. Where you're coming from is why the Buddha told everyone
to please kill him if you meet him in the road. All these external forms
Hmmm ... this must be from that very rare Pali Sutta just recently
translated into English:
Kill the Buddha Before He Kills You
Could you tell me where to find it in the Nikaya-s?
I'm jus' so styoopid.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
I had such a charming time with the Cistercian monks when
I was into spirituality that I have continued an appreciation
for their alternative lifestyle. Sort of how I view people
way into the tattoo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:04 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
I take it you were impressed by what you saw, or what you know
about the daily living on Mt. Athos. I had kind of expected
something different. It seemed more formal,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
My memories are from the late '78-'79 era.
I seem to remember seeing pictures of a
monk up high on a ladder painting some of the
iconic murals. I was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
snip
I've been wrong about a lot of things in my life. Really
important things. Things I had believed were irrefutable.
So now I have a
Fervent soliloquy from your self to yourself. Appears to be your
experience of what unity must be like - your own form of self-referral.
This has nothing to do with the realities of monasticism but you can
still make grand proclamations to Turq and he can make some back to you.
Everyone doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
They make reproductions at the monastery; you can
order them. You can see smallish photos of the
icons available here (see menu on the left for the
A fundamentally protestant judgment.
It's all a bunch of empty ceremony, right?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:
I take it you were impressed by what you saw, or what you know about
the daily living on Mt. Athos. I had kind of expected something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
I've been wrong about a lot of things in my life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Fervent soliloquy from your self to yourself. Appears to be your
experience of what unity must be like - your own form of self-referral.
This has nothing to do with the realities of monasticism but you can
still make
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:
Good stuff, Curtis. Where you're coming from is why the Buddha told everyone
to please kill him if you meet him in the road. All these external forms of
spirituality must die for authentic spirituality to be born. Many, of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
Hesse was never a monastic so he was just imagining what he thought it
was. It is actually much more and also much less than your imagination.
Everything in monasticism depends upon the individual monastic.
Most Eastern Orthodox monasteries clothe and feed their own members
along with their
http://www.maharishichannel.in/econtact_mailing/MAILING_OUT/2011_04/2010_04_26_clinic.html
I love all the diverse opinions, great work everyone! (I haven't decided yet
what the truth is,...but maybe some day). But on the whole, instead of
visiting either of those Monkish places, I would recommend spending time
watching The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
...
A Daniel Craig sequel coming
Cultic participation does not equal monastic experience. Your judgments
about it are not informed by a real direct experience, in spite of your
assumptions that you are experienced like Jimmy Hendrix. Monasticism
is really much better and/or much worse than the CBS program depicts,
depending on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
I've been wrong about a lot of things in my
Excellent!...another expert on what's authentic. Now we have two.
http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/vampire-throneroom.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Cultic participation does not equal monastic experience. Your judgments
about it are not informed by a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
Excellent!...another expert on what's authentic. Now we have two.
http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/vampire-throneroom.jpg
Exactly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Cultic participation does
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Excellent!...another expert on what's authentic. Now we
have two.
http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/vampire-throneroom.jpg
Exactly.
But for heaven's sake,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
U... Empty, I think you're taking some of the banter around here a little
too seriously. Life is too short to play *who can be offended most by the
least*. Wasn't one of the original sutras *Indifference*?
From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To:
On 04/27/2011 08:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:16 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama birth certificate issued by White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
snip
I believe it makes sense for me to evaluate claims according
to the reasons they are being made. If your version of the
humility you are requesting requires me to abandon that belief,
I would need to now
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Cultic participation does not equal monastic experience. Your judgments
about it are not informed by a real direct experience, in spite of your
assumptions that you are experienced like Jimmy Hendrix. Monasticism
is really
I look at it differently, as I see these monks performing a certain
type of reality selection based on their own beliefs, beliefs they've
chosen to enact via their theurgy or ritual magical practice. But as
Bill's post points out Divine Theurgy is something that is both
applied Gnostic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On Behalf Of Vaj
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html
They should have waited till a month or two before the election.
Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:44 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama birth certificate issued by White House
On 04/27/2011 08:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
From 200 bpm to 280 bpm:
http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/georgekollias200280.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
snip
I believe it makes sense for me to evaluate claims according
to the reasons they are being made. If your version of the
humility you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
I look at it differently, as I see these monks performing a certain
type of reality selection based on their own beliefs, beliefs they've
chosen to enact via their theurgy or ritual magical practice. But as
Bill's post
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:13 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes
He was translating experiential writings of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
snip
I believe it makes sense for me to evaluate
Oh Judy, *smutty* sounds so *judgmental*. I think *suggestively naughty*(spoken
with a thick British accent) is more appropriate.
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 8:53:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
snip
He was translating experiential writings of the dessert fathers.
Would these have included cheesecake recipes?
No, but he had a really good one for pecan sandies.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
On 04/27/2011 11:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On Behalf Of Vaj
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html
They should have waited till a month or two before the election.
Who wants to guess
Veda Bhumi, Deva Bhumi, Purna Bhumi Bharat
Developments in modern science, in particular in Quantum Physics, have
opened new perspectives for a unified understanding of Nature.
This process of unification culminates in a complete unification at the
level of the
On 04/27/2011 12:00 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:44 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama birth certificate issued by White House
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
He was translating experiential writings of the dessert fathers.
Would these have included cheesecake recipes?
I have an original copy of Christ's strawberry-rhubarb
crumble recipe. Accepting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
snip
He was translating experiential writings of the dessert fathers.
Would these have included cheesecake recipes?
That fourth sutra is about upeksha, accurately translated as equimimity.
It is the fourth valule in the Buddhist iteration of the
Brahma-vihaara-s, the stations or consciousness-states of Lord Brahma,
the purohita of our local cosmos. It is not enumerated by Patanjali
because he found no
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45 authfriend jst...@panix.com
40 Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
39 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com
28 turquoiseb
You're taking this too personally and so you see it as a personal
put-down. I may be acerbic in my comments but I'm not denigrating
your experience doing long retreats of siddhi practice as such. I just
don't believe it to be comparable but rather see it as a form of
spiritual retreat of
Vaj:
Who wants to guess what the replacing conspiracy
theory will be?
That this document has been cropped and altered by
an idiot who thought he knew how to scan a
birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat?
At the least this was a scanned document produced
by a moron who thought he knew
Interesting that what Willytex quotes isn't from either
of the Web pages he gives URLs for.
The second one, in fact, is from National Review Online,
a right-wing publication; it's a post that *debunks* the
notion that the certificate is a forgery.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex
Bhairitu:
Sometime I think Florida needs to be broken
off and shipped along with Texas to Antarctica.
Don't you just hate those Hispanics!
The House budget blueprint for the next fiscal
year would keep the current Medicare program in
place for people now 55 and older.
But those younger
authfriend:
Interesting that what Willytex quotes
isn't from either of the Web pages he
gives URLs for...
The quotes are from:
'You've GOT To Be Kidding Me!'
http://market-ticker.org/post=185094
and
'The Corner'
http://tinyurl.com/3kz7clp
That this document has been cropped and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Abstract: Until recently, Neoplatonic theurgy has been defined by
scholars as an attempt to manipulate the gods through ritual, and its
influence in late antique Platonic circles has been interpreted as
evidence for the
No, they aren't (as I just said).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:
authfriend:
Interesting that what Willytex quotes
isn't from either of the Web pages he
gives URLs for...
The quotes are from:
'You've GOT To Be Kidding Me!'
I was just asking your opinion. My opinion is that I did not see much
naturalness in their lifestyle. It all seemed quite orthodox. I guess
if you feel that a regimented, continual recitation of prayers leads to
a closeness to God, then they got it going on. But I don't see it. So
again,
Life of a monk, too structured at Mt. Athos. Meals take longer than 10 minutes.
I prefer Infinite Divisibility [Yves Tanguy, 1942]:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/1975.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
Monasticism
is really much better and/or much worse than the CBS program depicts,
depending on participation and faithfulness.
I would be interested to hear what you feel are the better and worse
outcomes of the monastisc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
These guys found a theurgical mix for inner exploration of
Christianity, which I consider a lot deeper than just about anything
out there Jesus-wise.
Don't know about that. Periodically I tune into Joel Osteen. To me he
has
1870
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/36833.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:13 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
The Orthodox are very hard-core believers. They rightly point out that
they are the original Christian church, unbroken in lineage, belief
and
practice. They are very Platonic in many ways, especially in using
beauty as an
Judy, you have to understand that what WillyTex sees when looking at the birth
certificate is different from what you and I see:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/birthers-still-have-quest_n_854591.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
Interesting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
The Orthodox are very hard-core believers. They rightly point out
that
they are the original Christian church, unbroken in lineage, belief
and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
It is the path of yoga - suppression with awareness.
Ex-cultists pseudo-spiritualists like Barry and Curtis will argue
that
monastic life is the *opposite* of material life. NO. The opposite of
material life is
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