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[FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming
Re: [FairfieldLife] So you think you've got troll problems on FFL...
Though I coined the term Funny Farm Lounge after watching a few episodes of Ricky Gervais' Derek FFL is beginning to resemble a retirement home for wired seniors. We'll be seeing more of that on the Internet because the elderly aren't your grandma who isn't connected to the Internet anymore. Regarding Derek, Gervais made a little statement at the end of an episode last night when he had the tenants dancing to disco and rb music. Nope, not your granny's waltz music anymore either. On 09/20/2013 12:59 AM, turquoiseb wrote: ...be thankful you're not on Reddit. I don't go near the place, because of the near-universal low-vibeness of it and the people who hang there. This guy's story affirms my decision in this regard. http://www.theawl.com/2013/09/i-was-a-hated-hipster-meme-and-then-it-got-worse I empathize with him. It's no fun to be stalked on the Internet, by deranged people who just want to yell at someone...anyone, and who glommed onto you because you were handy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming
I think we should make a new rule: that though it's not ok to end a sentence with a preposition, it is ok if one ends a sentence with 2 prepositions. They sort of cancel each other out, kind of like 2 negatives making a positive. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming You're onto a loser with this one. Like you, I really enjoy it when I read a sentence that has the possessive - it sounds so right, so justly chosen - but I'm probably too lazy a writer to spot my own oversights. And, for sure, out there amongst the great unwashed no one would understand what you're on about. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wondering what obbajeeba is doing tonight?
I do not want to have to read the webpage. Sometimes new posts do not show up on the webpage. I have seen it happen when I post a post on the webpage and it does not show up. The neo seems to have temporarily disappeared and it is easier to read the webpage. Still, it is easier for me to click and delete from my email when the program works properly. Takes more effort for me on the webpage. Even though, I only post from the webpage, but I do not plan to sit there and wait, I like my email box sent ffl yahoo message board group posts as my reader and scanner. Both, are still fucked up. Thank you have a nice day. :) Testing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yahoo isn't the only one who uses its users as beta testers
Should be easier to test on an iPhone than on Android. There are over 2000 models of Android devices so it is impossible to test thoroughly. But the problem is that testing is expensive. So companies have a relatively limited QA department. I used to accuse the Android group at Google of being a 200 monkey paradigm. Someone I know who worked there corrected me by saying the Android group only has 100 people in it. :-D And even with a good QA department when something is released to the public inordinately the public will find some bug that QA didn't. On 09/19/2013 11:17 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Facebook obviously did the same thing: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4744904/how-facebook-secretly-redesigned-its-iphone-app-with-your-help Interestingly, however, it was a more challenging task for them to do so than Yahoo faced. A Web app like Yahoo Groups lives on the server, and all you have to do to change it for users is update the code on the server side; all clients will then see the new changes. If you want to roll out test versions of a new look like Neo, you can just choose to deploy this from *some* of your servers, but not all of them. That gives you a demographic test audience, in that you'll be able to sort the positive and negative feedback you get from users geographically to watch only the people who auto-connect to that particular server, and thus get the test release. This actually explains how I'm still seeing the old interface in France, whereas many if not most people in the US are now seeing Neo. On the rare occasions when I *do* get Neo, it's obviously an old, early, and *very* buggy version; what I see does not even have Reply or New Topic buttons. It's read only. Facebook had a harder challenge, because the code that drives the interface is local and native (as opposed to HTML5), and lives on the client device. So to test various configurations of their new look, they had to roll out a stealth version that they could configure remotely to create isolated test audiences and then measure their feedback. Clever. Diabolically clever, but clever.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming
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that's for sure - they all wanted what the Big M promised - techniques 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone - what a crock From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor Meaning that the first people on sidhis courses, being TM teachers, were already quite invested in TM. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor Yes, and...? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the first sidhas course were for TM teachers. Then in summer 1977 they got rolled out for POM, plain old meditators. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:09 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor I mean, to develop the TM-Sidhis course, there would have to be experimentation on human guinea pigs; common sense tells you that. Or even if it had somehow been developed without experimentation and presented as a fait accompli, the first people to take the course would automatically be guinea pigs. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: now that is a good question - how about it, those of you on the first few six month courses? Was it known it was experimental before you went? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know, I'm just asking--but weren't the course participants all aware that it was going to be experimental when they signed up? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfect as course leaders of long residence courses back then. What- ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- it can be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office, I was such a TB that the implications of how we were running those courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gave any thought to what we'd do if something serious came up on one of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctors on call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually *do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than the aforementioned more (or less) TM and pranayma. Maybe more asanas. And definitely a checking.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Roku
Have you ever wanted to cut the cable? The cable TV cable that is. I sure want to - between Time-Warner and ATT I'm getting out of that loop! So, I went to the Shack and bought some digital, powered antennas for my TV sets to pull in my local channels in HD - ABC, CBS, NBC, and CW. Then I bought a Roku box for the kitchen; a WD Live for the living room; a smart BD for the bedroom; and a Chromecast for the home office. Roku LT: That way, I can tune in to Amazon, YouTube, Netflix, Pandora, Fox News and Hulu. Outside of our internet connection (need 2MBPS or more) which we already had in place, our total internet video monthly fees are $12.95 for NetFlix and $8.95 for Hulu Plus. Soon, real soon, right after the last episod of Breaking Bad, I'm going to cut the cable and save $150 a month. Now that's better! Read more: 'Roku Rocks with NetFlix and Playon' Amazon Review: http://tinyurl.com/mg4gqvt http://tinyurl.com/mg4gqvt
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we living in the end times?
DNA variations are caused by entropy, the nature of the universe to go from order to disorder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life Biologists say that some mutations are harmful, some are beneficial and some are neutral. This is why the process is wasteful and the casualties are high. But evolution manages to go on. The environment uses the natural selection process which has a deterministic aspect and that balances the completely random mutations. The DNA replicates in a clumsy way and errors creep in. Perhaps the perfectly replicating DNA got booted out during the early days of evolution. It's still not clear in what way the particle form the future influences the DNA, and that is a matter of debate. Perhaps more research is need before we jump to conclusions. (My first reply went to the yahoo hibernation chamber, and I don't know when it will manifest. This is kinda duplicate of what I sent earlier.) --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: but DNA variations can be triggered from the quantum level. DNA variations = evolution (if you throw in teeth and claws and sexual selection). Wheeler's delayed-choice variation on the classic double-slit experiment has been experimentally verified and shows a scientist can effectively decide what happens (happened) to a photon billions of years ago. See here (apologies for the robotic-sounding commentary): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6ageOaS-E --- Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Serap, this two way traffic, (bi-directional) between past and future happens only on the Quantum level. On the Classical level, time flows in uni-directional way. In fact, this is what gives the Classical universe it's stability. Scientists have known for quite some time now that evolution is partially deterministic and partially random. My bet is that it's just some kind of mathematical intelligence behind this deterministic pattern. Besides, a lot of scientists like Penrose have indeed started taking consciousness seriously. This Dennett is probably a fringe minority. Consciousness is slowly taking the centerstage. Besides, the technological developments in observing the subjective experiences using brain scans are rapidly progressing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsH7RK1S2E --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: I don't dispute that. The reason you and I are having a human, earthly, animal experience of awareness is owing to Darwinian evolution. Awareness itself though - the fact that right now I'm conscious of the sound of rain falling and the smell of my Nag Champa incense - can't be accounted for by the men in white coats. In fact they're close to giving up on pretending to have a solution, which is why Daniel Dennett and pals are trying to persuade us we're not actually conscious at all. Good luck with that one Danny boy! Of course we have to leave open the possibility that there are unknown factors guiding evolution. John Archibald (love it!) Wheeler's suggestion that quantum theory shows we can change the past leaves open the neat idea that the future, the present and the past are constantly tweaking each other (like two travelling waves moving down a sound tube in opposite directions) so maybe evolution isn't just about survival of the fittest . . . We are participators in bringing into being not only the near and here but the far away and long ago. We are in this sense, participators in bringing about something of the universe in the distant past and if we have one explanation for what's happening in the distant past why should we need more? - Wheeler. --- Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: These consciousness theories and quantum theories, don't actually change the technical aspects of Darwin's evolution. Even if irreducible consciousness did exist, as you claim, Darwin's theory still remains the same, unchanged, as sound as ever. Many new-agers are so stupid that they think these new theories negate Darwin. They don't. Impersonal consciousness, impersonal creation, impersonal evolution. --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend they believe). Searle is right about that. What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness
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Ok then, just another way that we're different. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Everybody thinks much faster than they type. I would not be able to leave out a the without having made a conscious decision to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think it's more because I think so much faster than I type. It's not a conscious decision. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming I see. I don't know anybody else who does that. Is it because you're such a slow typist that four keystrokes would take so long that you wouldn't be able to finish what you had to say? How do you decide which the to leave out? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I leave it out when it doesn't seem necessary and I'm rushing. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming As you know, Share, you are being disingenuous to say my question is disingenuous, And you know exactly what I'm asking about and why: You do often leave out the definite article. Is that what you were taught to do in your grammar course, and sometimes you just forget and put it in anyway? Or did they teach you to leave it out sometimes, whenever you felt like it? Or what? Or is leaving out the article just an affectation that you think makes you look cute and smart? Because it sure doesn't make you look as if you ever actually took a grammar course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roku
The LT? It's only 720p. Plus they are selling their 2 XD which does 1080p for about the same price online. Well maybe your TV only does 720p. I can't use one of these with my set because it is a 13 year old HD RPTV. I only does 1080i and my HTML to component converter can't convert 1080p to 1080i. My BD player has a 1080i out option on HDMI so it works with the converter. I was looking at a Roku because there have the largest number of streaming services. So that would also be a new TV (at less than 1/4 of what I paid for the old one) and a new AV receiver (because mine doesn't handle DD+). Also you forgot to mention the PPV services for those movies that won't be showing up on Netflix any time soon and also how to watch some of those cable network shows. VUDU and Amazon Instant are a couple of those. Can't do an antenna because I live in a valley so there is no OTA reception. If I go up the hill to Starbucks I get ALL the Sacramento stations and the one Spanish station on Mt. Diablo on a Hauppauge MicroTV USB stick hooked up to my laptop. Cutting the cable the savings would be enough to pay for the upgrade of gear in 8 months. On 09/20/2013 12:12 PM, punditster wrote: Have you ever wanted to cut the cable? The cable TV cable that is. I sure want to - between Time-Warner and ATT I'm getting out of that loop! So, I went to the Shack and bought some digital, powered antennas for my TV sets to pull in my local channels in HD - ABC, CBS, NBC, and CW. Then I bought a Roku box for the kitchen; a WD Live for the living room; a smart BD for the bedroom; and a Chromecast for the home office. Roku LT: That way, I can tune in to Amazon, YouTube, Netflix, Pandora, Fox News and Hulu. Outside of our internet connection (need 2MBPS or more) which we already had in place, our total internet video monthly fees are $12.95 for NetFlix and $8.95 for Hulu Plus. Soon, real soon, right after the last episod of Breaking Bad, I'm going to cut the cable and save $150 a month. Now that's better! Read more: 'Roku Rocks with NetFlix and Playon' Amazon Review: http://tinyurl.com/mg4gqvt
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming
I think it's more because I think so much faster than I type. It's not a conscious decision. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming I see. I don't know anybody else who does that. Is it because you're such a slow typist that four keystrokes would take so long that you wouldn't be able to finish what you had to say? How do you decide which the to leave out? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I leave it out when it doesn't seem necessary and I'm rushing. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming As you know, Share, you are being disingenuous to say my question is disingenuous, And you know exactly what I'm asking about and why: You do often leave out the definite article. Is that what you were taught to do in your grammar course, and sometimes you just forget and put it in anyway? Or did they teach you to leave it out sometimes, whenever you felt like it? Or what? Or is leaving out the article just an affectation that you think makes you look cute and smart? Because it sure doesn't make you look as if you ever actually took a grammar course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we living in the end times?
Variations in the DNA occur due to entropy, the tendency of order to become disorder. Biologists themselves admit that some mutations are harmful, some are beneficial and some are neutral. These variations are errors made during replication. The clumsy replication DNA leads to massive wastages and casualities, however evolution moves on. The environment which uses natural selection seems to have some deterministic pattern, which balances out the random mutations and capricious changes in the environment. In what way the particle from the future influences the DNA is matter of debate. More research needs to be done before we jump to conclusions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: but DNA variations can be triggered from the quantum level. DNA variations = evolution (if you throw in teeth and claws and sexual selection). Wheeler's delayed-choice variation on the classic double-slit experiment has been experimentally verified and shows a scientist can effectively decide what happens (happened) to a photon billions of years ago. See here (apologies for the robotic-sounding commentary): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6ageOaS-E --- Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Serap, this two way traffic, (bi-directional) between past and future happens only on the Quantum level. On the Classical level, time flows in uni-directional way. In fact, this is what gives the Classical universe it's stability. Scientists have known for quite some time now that evolution is partially deterministic and partially random. My bet is that it's just some kind of mathematical intelligence behind this deterministic pattern. Besides, a lot of scientists like Penrose have indeed started taking consciousness seriously. This Dennett is probably a fringe minority. Consciousness is slowly taking the centerstage. Besides, the technological developments in observing the subjective experiences using brain scans are rapidly progressing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsH7RK1S2E --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: I don't dispute that. The reason you and I are having a human, earthly, animal experience of awareness is owing to Darwinian evolution. Awareness itself though - the fact that right now I'm conscious of the sound of rain falling and the smell of my Nag Champa incense - can't be accounted for by the men in white coats. In fact they're close to giving up on pretending to have a solution, which is why Daniel Dennett and pals are trying to persuade us we're not actually conscious at all. Good luck with that one Danny boy! Of course we have to leave open the possibility that there are unknown factors guiding evolution. John Archibald (love it!) Wheeler's suggestion that quantum theory shows we can change the past leaves open the neat idea that the future, the present and the past are constantly tweaking each other (like two travelling waves moving down a sound tube in opposite directions) so maybe evolution isn't just about survival of the fittest . . . We are participators in bringing into being not only the near and here but the far away and long ago. We are in this sense, participators in bringing about something of the universe in the distant past and if we have one explanation for what's happening in the distant past why should we need more? - Wheeler. --- Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: These consciousness theories and quantum theories, don't actually change the technical aspects of Darwin's evolution. Even if irreducible consciousness did exist, as you claim, Darwin's theory still remains the same, unchanged, as sound as ever. Many new-agers are so stupid that they think these new theories negate Darwin. They don't. Impersonal consciousness, impersonal creation, impersonal evolution. --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend they believe). Searle is right about that. What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or
[FairfieldLife] RE: On Being An Eagle
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming
Judy, I think you are asking what you call a disingenuous question. Disingenuous because as you can see in my first sentence, in the phrase THE possessive case, I sometimes use the definite article. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Did this grammar course teach you to leave out the definite article? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Another pet peeve: a person's avoiding the possessive case before a gerund (-: One of my favorite courses in college was an advanced grammar course. The errors I see now even on places like HuffPost amaze me. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Spirit Guided Lucid Dreaming Pet peeve of mine also. And, like you, I hit the Send key just as I notice I've missed or added '. Yes, I wonder if the interest in lucid dreams and the like isn't demon Mara up to his old tricks making mundane things seem alluring. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Let dream state take its natural course I say. Pet peeve of mine with people mix up it's and its!
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: On Being An Eagle
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor
yea, so what? From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office,I was such a TB that the implications of how we were runningthose courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gaveany thought to what we'd do if something serious came up onone of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctorson call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually*do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than theaforementioned more (or less) TM and pranayma. Maybe more asanas. And definitely a checking. Everyone knows thata TM checking can cure anything. In retrospect we were incredibly naive, and dangerously so.But we had all bought into that core dogma thang -- TM is100% life-supporting. We didn't have to plan for negativesituations because by definition on a course on which every-one was practicing TM nothing negative could ever happen.I suspect that some here will dispute this. I further suspectthat those doing so didn't spend much time on long roundingcourses, and by long I mean in excess of six weeks. Thoselong courses in Europe didn't have any liability or medicalinsurance, either, and they certainly didn't have a team ofreliable doctors on call. But of course there was no *need* for those things, because by definition on a TM course nothing bad could happen. The Laws Of Nature just wouldn't allow it. And if anything bad *did* happen, no problemo. Whatever it is, it can be cured with pranayama and more (or less) TM.Maybe a checking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck schticks (at least I hope it's schtick): Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him.Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
absolutely From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know, I'm just asking--but weren't the course participants all aware that it was going to be experimental when they signed up? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office,I was such a TB that the implications of how we were runningthose courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gaveany thought to what we'd do if something serious came up onone of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctorson call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually*do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than theaforementioned more (or less) TM and pranayma. Maybe more asanas. And definitely a checking. Everyone knows thata TM checking can cure anything. In retrospect we were incredibly naive, and dangerously so.But we had all bought into that core dogma thang -- TM is100% life-supporting. We didn't have to plan for negativesituations because by definition on a course on which every-one was practicing TM nothing negative could ever happen.I suspect that some here will dispute this. I further suspectthat those doing so didn't spend much time on long roundingcourses, and by long I mean in excess of six weeks. Thoselong courses in Europe didn't have any liability or medicalinsurance, either, and they certainly didn't have a team ofreliable doctors on call. But of course there was no *need* for those things, because by definition on a TM course nothing bad could happen. The Laws Of Nature just wouldn't allow it. And if anything bad *did* happen, no problemo. Whatever it is, it can be cured with pranayama and more (or less) TM.Maybe a checking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck schticks (at least I hope it's schtick): Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him.Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been
[FairfieldLife] RE: Haiku by John Cooper Clarke
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
sure it was. and we were invited, if one was able to attend. looking back on it, perhaps it was like a second wave, whereby there was an opportunity to be up close with the teacher. and that's just what it turned out to be From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor now that is a good question - how about it, those of you on the first few six month courses? Was it known it was experimental before you went? From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know, I'm just asking--but weren't the course participants all aware that it was going to be experimental when they signed up? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office,I was such a TB that the implications of how we were runningthose courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gaveany thought to what we'd do if something serious came up onone of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctorson call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually*do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than theaforementioned more (or less) TM and pranayma. Maybe more asanas. And definitely a checking. Everyone knows thata TM checking can cure anything. In retrospect we were incredibly naive, and dangerously so.But we had all bought into that core dogma thang -- TM is100% life-supporting. We didn't have to plan for negativesituations because by definition on a course on which every-one was practicing TM nothing negative could ever happen.I suspect that some here will dispute this. I further suspectthat those doing so didn't spend much time on long roundingcourses, and by long I mean in excess of six weeks. Thoselong courses in Europe didn't have any liability or medicalinsurance, either, and they certainly didn't have a team ofreliable doctors on call. But of course there was no *need* for those things, because by definition on a TM course nothing bad could happen. The Laws Of Nature just wouldn't allow it. And if anything bad *did* happen, no problemo. Whatever it is, it can be cured with pranayama and more (or less) TM.Maybe a checking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck schticks (at least
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[FairfieldLife] David Frost/John Lennon quote
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the course I attended was in Courcheval, France. I was in Livingston Manor sometime after that. And my memory from Livingston Manor, for the short time I was there, was that there was no heat, as has also been related by others. I also remember during that time going into NYC and visiting various U.N. Missions to make our speel. Often we would gain entrée to the ambassador or someone of importance. In my idealism, I thought that really meant something, but I soon realized that often it was just something to fill the schedule for them. You know what I can't understand for the life of me. Why the chicken kebobs are so tasteless in NYC. Sure, they only cost $4.00 or $5.00, but they are chewy and bland. I'd gladly pay $8.00 for one that was more tasty. These are the ones on the street, I'm talking about. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I remember on staff, we had to set up the exercise wheels, and water bottles for you CPs, before program. Clean sawdust, too. There was one fellow there, a Peruvian, management wouldn't let him anywhere near you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yea, so what? From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office,I was such a TB that the implications of how we were runningthose courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gaveany thought to what we'd do if something serious came up onone of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctorson call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually*do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than theaforementioned more (or less) TM and pranayma. Maybe more asanas. And definitely a checking. Everyone knows thata TM checking can cure anything. In retrospect we were incredibly naive, and dangerously so.But we had all bought into that core dogma thang -- TM is100% life-supporting. We didn't have to plan for negativesituations because by definition on a course on which every-one was practicing TM nothing negative could ever happen.I suspect that some here will dispute this. I further suspectthat those doing so didn't spend much time on long roundingcourses, and by long I mean in excess of six weeks. Thoselong courses in
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[FairfieldLife] RE: On Being An Eagle
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how's your slam? do you have a stronger forehand or backhand slam? or maybe you just play far back from the table? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor Speaking of side effects from TM, I remember I developed an addiction at El Manor that persists to this day, for oranges, and french bread. Also, ping pong, but I'm not to the point where I break into people's houses to play. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the course I attended was in Courcheval, France. I was in Livingston Manor sometime after that. And my memory from Livingston Manor, for the short time I was there, was that there was no heat, as has also been related by others. I also remember during that time going into NYC and visiting various U.N. Missions to make our speel. Often we would gain entrée to the ambassador or someone of importance. In my idealism, I thought that really meant something, but I soon realized that often it was just something to fill the schedule for them. You know what I can't understand for the life of me. Why the chicken kebobs are so tasteless in NYC. Sure, they only cost $4.00 or $5.00, but they are chewy and bland. I'd gladly pay $8.00 for one that was more tasty. These are the ones on the street, I'm talking about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I remember on staff, we had to set up the exercise wheels, and water bottles for you CPs, before program. Clean sawdust, too. There was one fellow there, a Peruvian, management wouldn't let him anywhere near you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yea, so what? From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against something? You are cherry picking. Did you actually read the Kapor interview through? Rick Archer on his interview show about spirituality, Batgap.com just interviewed a psychiatrist about this kind of thing. This guy Kapor sounds predisposed in life to have problems where ever he goes. 20 minutes twice a day of meditation with liberal pranayama should proly be good enough for him. Turq writes; Buck, you (or your altered-state ego) would have been perfectas course leaders of long residence courses back then. What-ever course participants complain of -- *whatever* it is -- itcan be cured by pranayama and more (or less) TM. And I understand. Back when I worked at the Regional Office,I was such a TB that the implications of how we were runningthose courses never occurred to me. We never -- NEVER -- gaveany thought to what we'd do if something serious came up onone of our courses. We had no liability insurance, no doctorson call, and no list of what the course leaders should actually*do* if someone started heavily unstressing, other than
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it sounds like you have a pretty sophisticated game. I am more of a meat and potatoes type player with a lot of slams. my serve is decent, but nothing too special. and that is funny that you can go for years without playing and then almost start where you left off in a matter of a few games. I am the current champion at our Thanksgiving day tournament for about 7 years running now. (since it started) From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor My serve is good - very fast, and low. I make good corner shots, and good slams, though watch for opponents' spins, too. It is like riding a bicycle. I can go years between games and pick it up pretty quickly, again. I used to play a lot with a Vietnamese guy, who played Chinese style - back from the table, and returned anything. Very rarely beat him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: how's your slam? do you have a stronger forehand or backhand slam? or maybe you just play far back from the table? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor Speaking of side effects from TM, I remember I developed an addiction at El Manor that persists to this day, for oranges, and french bread. Also, ping pong, but I'm not to the point where I break into people's houses to play. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the course I attended was in Courcheval, France. I was in Livingston Manor sometime after that. And my memory from Livingston Manor, for the short time I was there, was that there was no heat, as has also been related by others. I also remember during that time going into NYC and visiting various U.N. Missions to make our speel. Often we would gain entrée to the ambassador or someone of importance. In my idealism, I thought that really meant something, but I soon realized that often it was just something to fill the schedule for them. You know what I can't understand for the life of me. Why the chicken kebobs are so tasteless in NYC. Sure, they only cost $4.00 or $5.00, but they are chewy and bland. I'd gladly pay $8.00 for one that was more tasty. These are the ones on the street, I'm talking about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I remember on staff, we had to set up the exercise wheels, and water bottles for you CPs, before program. Clean sawdust, too. There was one fellow there, a Peruvian, management wouldn't let him anywhere near you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yea, so what? From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck Kapor evidently gets angry and leaves everything. Story of his life evidently. And, you are using him as a witness against
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor
So come on some of you Livingston Manor guys, What was infamous about Wally? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor it sounds like you have a pretty sophisticated game. I am more of a meat and potatoes type player with a lot of slams. my serve is decent, but nothing too special. and that is funny that you can go for years without playing and then almost start where you left off in a matter of a few games. I am the current champion at our Thanksgiving day tournament for about 7 years running now. (since it started) From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor My serve is good - very fast, and low. I make good corner shots, and good slams, though watch for opponents' spins, too. It is like riding a bicycle. I can go years between games and pick it up pretty quickly, again. I used to play a lot with a Vietnamese guy, who played Chinese style - back from the table, and returned anything. Very rarely beat him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: how's your slam? do you have a stronger forehand or backhand slam? or maybe you just play far back from the table? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor Speaking of side effects from TM, I remember I developed an addiction at El Manor that persists to this day, for oranges, and french bread. Also, ping pong, but I'm not to the point where I break into people's houses to play. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the course I attended was in Courcheval, France. I was in Livingston Manor sometime after that. And my memory from Livingston Manor, for the short time I was there, was that there was no heat, as has also been related by others. I also remember during that time going into NYC and visiting various U.N. Missions to make our speel. Often we would gain entrée to the ambassador or someone of importance. In my idealism, I thought that really meant something, but I soon realized that often it was just something to fill the schedule for them. You know what I can't understand for the life of me. Why the chicken kebobs are so tasteless in NYC. Sure, they only cost $4.00 or $5.00, but they are chewy and bland. I'd gladly pay $8.00 for one that was more tasty. These are the ones on the street, I'm talking about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I remember on staff, we had to set up the exercise wheels, and water bottles for you CPs, before program. Clean sawdust, too. There was one fellow there, a Peruvian, management wouldn't let him anywhere near you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yea, so what? From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then also cultivating more with that part in the checking notes about feeling in to the body more. That could all be very helpful to anyone going through their time of acedia. For instance this person, http://www.timeportalpubs.com/has long been very helpful these ways to the meditating community these ways. The waking down community here, https://sites.google.com/site/wakingdowninfairfield/ has been very helpful these ways too for people who suffer this way. Of course you guys left the movement long before what it is now as a meditating community. -Buck
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor
I have no first hand info about him. Or even second hand for that matter. Third hand I vaguely recall he was a character From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor So come on some of you Livingston Manor guys, What was infamous about Wally? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor it sounds like you have a pretty sophisticated game. I am more of a meat and potatoes type player with a lot of slams. my serve is decent, but nothing too special. and that is funny that you can go for years without playing and then almost start where you left off in a matter of a few games. I am the current champion at our Thanksgiving day tournament for about 7 years running now. (since it started) From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor My serve is good - very fast, and low. I make good corner shots, and good slams, though watch for opponents' spins, too. It is like riding a bicycle. I can go years between games and pick it up pretty quickly, again. I used to play a lot with a Vietnamese guy, who played Chinese style - back from the table, and returned anything. Very rarely beat him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: how's your slam? do you have a stronger forehand or backhand slam? or maybe you just play far back from the table? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor Speaking of side effects from TM, I remember I developed an addiction at El Manor that persists to this day, for oranges, and french bread. Also, ping pong, but I'm not to the point where I break into people's houses to play. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the course I attended was in Courcheval, France. I was in Livingston Manor sometime after that. And my memory from Livingston Manor, for the short time I was there, was that there was no heat, as has also been related by others. I also remember during that time going into NYC and visiting various U.N. Missions to make our speel. Often we would gain entrée to the ambassador or someone of importance. In my idealism, I thought that really meant something, but I soon realized that often it was just something to fill the schedule for them. You know what I can't understand for the life of me. Why the chicken kebobs are so tasteless in NYC. Sure, they only cost $4.00 or $5.00, but they are chewy and bland. I'd gladly pay $8.00 for one that was more tasty. These are the ones on the street, I'm talking about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I remember on staff, we had to set up the exercise wheels, and water bottles for you CPs, before program. Clean sawdust, too. There was one fellow there, a Peruvian, management wouldn't let him anywhere near you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yea, so what? From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor I don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread already but one vital point Kapor makes about his time on the six-month sidhi course is that he felt he and the other participants were being used as experimental subjects. That charge carries weight, doesn't it? These early learners were the guinea pigs for the TMO developing its course material. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote I would be surprised if going to this event was OK with the Guardians of the Doors to the Domes. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mitchell Kapor Yeah, the poor aggravated guy. Of course we know a lot more now than we did then. I was on that course too and it wasn't so bad. It was great actually. Would be good now to also hook someone like that up with a little vipassanaic practice along with the transcendence and then
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: On Being An Eagle
[FairfieldLife] Monsanto crap
very surprised the NY Times would print this - they have generally been pro Monsanto in their writing of late. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/business/misgivings-about-how-a-weed-killer-affects-the-soil.html
[FairfieldLife] Candace Pert
I guess its old news since she died on the 12th - she was one of the more successful big time TM'ers http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/science/candace-pert-67-explorer-of-the-brain-dies.html?hpw
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roku
After I cut the cable, I'll be using the savings to get a faster internet connection, maybe 15 bps with Time-Warner and a Motorola Surfer modem with wireless N and Gigabyte Ethernet. Not in a panic about the 720p since that's just on the kitchen TV. I've got a 40 inch 1080p in the living room. I go for the cheap sets like ones you can buy at Walmart or Target in the $200-400 dollar range. One guy I know, whose wife makes $150,00 a year, got a 70 inch for his breakfast nook - he likes to sit on a bar stool at a counter in the kitchen and drink coffee, surf the net, read the papers, and he watches Fox News - all at the same time. Go figure. On 9/20/2013 3:39 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The LT? It's only 720p. Plus they are selling their 2 XD which does 1080p for about the same price online. Well maybe your TV only does 720p. I can't use one of these with my set because it is a 13 year old HD RPTV. I only does 1080i and my HTML to component converter can't convert 1080p to 1080i. My BD player has a 1080i out option on HDMI so it works with the converter. I was looking at a Roku because there have the largest number of streaming services. So that would also be a new TV (at less than 1/4 of what I paid for the old one) and a new AV receiver (because mine doesn't handle DD+). Also you forgot to mention the PPV services for those movies that won't be showing up on Netflix any time soon and also how to watch some of those cable network shows. VUDU and Amazon Instant are a couple of those. Can't do an antenna because I live in a valley so there is no OTA reception. If I go up the hill to Starbucks I get ALL the Sacramento stations and the one Spanish station on Mt. Diablo on a Hauppauge MicroTV USB stick hooked up to my laptop. Cutting the cable the savings would be enough to pay for the upgrade of gear in 8 months. On 09/20/2013 12:12 PM, punditster wrote: Have you ever wanted to cut the cable? The cable TV cable that is. I sure want to - between Time-Warner and ATT I'm getting out of that loop! So, I went to the Shack and bought some digital, powered antennas for my TV sets to pull in my local channels in HD - ABC, CBS, NBC, and CW. Then I bought a Roku box for the kitchen; a WD Live for the living room; a smart BD for the bedroom; and a Chromecast for the home office. Roku LT: That way, I can tune in to Amazon, YouTube, Netflix, Pandora, Fox News and Hulu. Outside of our internet connection (need 2MBPS or more) which we already had in place, our total internet video monthly fees are $12.95 for NetFlix and $8.95 for Hulu Plus. Soon, real soon, right after the last episod of Breaking Bad, I'm going to cut the cable and save $150 a month. Now that's better! Read more: 'Roku Rocks with NetFlix and Playon' Amazon Review: http://tinyurl.com/mg4gqvt
